You Mark C+ and III guys

[cardinal]

So I had a Mark III and C+ a while back. At the time, I thought they sounded very similar with the III a bit more aggressive.

So now I'm trying to make an Axe FX III sound like a Mark III. It has a model of the C+ and of the IV. The C+ sounds much closer to the III, to the point to where in the abstract the sound is seemingly equivalent.

Here's the thing: the III had a much stiffer, more immediate feel and "pop" than what I can get out of the Fractal C+. But I don't know that it's an inherent shortcoming of the Fractal. I don't particularly notice the same thing comparing the Fractal Brit 800 sim to my real Marshall 2204.

So the question: is the C+ just a bit smoother and more relaxed than the III? That might explain why I just can't figure out how to get that extra bit of immediacy from the Fractal sim. Or maybe the sim just not quite there.

 

[Tone Monster]

Run the Marshall model in conjunction with the C+

 

[Beyond Black]

So I had a Mark III and C+ a while back. At the time, I thought they sounded very similar with the III a bit more aggressive.

So now I'm trying to make an Axe FX III sound like a Mark III. It has a model of the C+ and of the IV. The C+ sounds much closer to the III, to the point to where in the abstract the sound is seemingly equivalent.

Here's the thing: the III had a much stiffer, more immediate feel and "pop" than what I can get out of the Fractal C+. But I don't know that it's an inherent shortcoming of the Fractal. I don't particularly notice the same thing comparing the Fractal Brit 800 sim to my real Marshall 2204.

So the question: is the C+ just a bit smoother and more relaxed than the III? That might explain why I just can't figure out how to get that extra bit of immediacy from the Fractal sim. Or maybe the sim just not quite there.

Yes it is. The C+ is smoother, looser, and has more bounce than the III.

 

[Racerxrated]

Yes it is. The C+ is smoother, looser, and has more bounce than the III.

I also noticed a pretty big jump in the clarity when I had my 2 Mk IIIs and my first C+.

 

[squealie]

IIRC, there is no Mark 3 sim on the fractal boxes. I've owned a 3 recently, and played another extensively in the early 90s. The Mark 3 is a terrible aggressive unforgiving beast that should not be used or simulated. Best let it die with no fanfair.

 

[Tone Monster]

So I had a Mark III and C+ a while back. At the time, I thought they sounded very similar with the III a bit more aggressive.

So now I'm trying to make an Axe FX III sound like a Mark III. It has a model of the C+ and of the IV. The C+ sounds much closer to the III, to the point to where in the abstract the sound is seemingly equivalent.

Here's the thing: the III had a much stiffer, more immediate feel and "pop" than what I can get out of the Fractal C+. But I don't know that it's an inherent shortcoming of the Fractal. I don't particularly notice the same thing comparing the Fractal Brit 800 sim to my real Marshall 2204.

So the question: is the C+ just a bit smoother and more relaxed than the III? That might explain why I just can't figure out how to get that extra bit of immediacy from the Fractal sim. Or maybe the sim just not quite there.

Any luck?

 

[cardinal]

Any luck?

Not really. Getting kinda burnt out on the thing. The Brit 800 sim always sounds and feels right to me, very much like my fav JMP 2204, so I've just been using the Brit 800 sim like I use the real amp, boosting it with various things.

Can't get happy with any of the other sims for some reason. But I'm close to giving up on it. The Brit 800 sounds good so I may just use only that plus all the FX and IRs and such that come in the box too.