I go way back with Greazygeo. He knows no insults were intended. We’ve always cordially disagreed on the merits of V30s.
WAYYYYYYYY BACK BRO. Nothin says I have friends in real life like lifelong forum friends.
I go way back with Greazygeo. He knows no insults were intended. We’ve always cordially disagreed on the merits of V30s.
While not having the jangly crunch of a low wattage (<30W) Celestion, with an open back cab, an EV12ML can sound plenty crunchy and characterful for classic rock.Achieving a classic rock sound with a classic amp is not going to happen with an EV, they’re a different beast.
Good observation. Mesa got it right with the halfback cabs as the bottom EV portion is sealed off from the upper half containing different speakers.If you use the EVM12L with any other speaker in a closed cab you can get very bad results. The reason being the throw of the EVM12L is so big it sucks back the other speakers. Causing very unusual sounds.
Basically if the cab is closed it needs to be in its own chamber or separate cab.
This only happens when you get loud enough. At low or medium volume this doesn't happen.
I have a 80's Peavey cab that is a very similar cab. I usually prefer the top chamber closed also. It's my favorite 2x12.Good observation. Mesa got it right with the halfback cabs as the bottom EV portion is sealed off from the upper half containing different speakers.
I think that phenomenon happens when mixing M and H magnet Celestions in the same cab as well, though not to the same extent as when EVs are part of the blend. I believe it’s because the EV’s magnet mass (and sound dispersion throw) is quite a bit more than any Celestion, while the disparity between those factors between M & H Celestions is not as large.I have a 80's Peavey cab that is a very similar cab. I usually prefer the top chamber closed also. It's my favorite 2x12.
Currently has a Mesa Vintage 30 top and G12K-85 bottom.
I have two EVM12L that haven't been in a cab in awhile.
I find a lot of 2x12 cabs can be woofy / boomy (whatever you want to call it. We all know this sound). But somehow not enough bass at the same time. Obviously there is a lot of factors in this within the entire rig.
It's been years since I heard one outside of a 1x12 Boogie cab - anyone running one in a quad box? (If I use this term enough it may just catch on, though I'm not optimistic).
It's a bit of a hassle to try as I have a spare 8Ω one in a sea of 16Ω cabs, but thought it might be a cool recording option or to at least shoot an IR.
Your experiences?
This is the truth. Those old Marshall V30’s sound killer. I don’t understand why Celestion doesn’t capitalize on this and offer this version more readily.Early ones by a country mile. For me anyway. They are like a V30/65 cross; fat sounding with none of the grating mids of a regular V30. The later 16 ohm version got much much brighter which is cool for metal but I prefer the earlier 8 ohm version for Hard Rock tones. Trouble is they are hard to find; either an 87 Jubilee cab or a 800 cab with a 280w sticker
That's basically the point with any piece of equipment. If you're listening with your eyes instead of your ears the results won't be worth writing home about.I have liked the EV for a long time because it is very true to the sound of your guitar, BUT you have to set said guitar AND amp up for the EV's. That includes electronics in the guitar, and preamp tubes and the 6L6/6CA7 combo in the MESA 2C+. The EV does not like a dive bomb on the 750 Hz EQ slider. I like the vintage style Celestions for a more Marshall-flavored amp.