Youtuber you would rather hang out with

[DrewJD82]

I get not digging the thumbnails etc but I don’t get a lot of grown men caring about this to this level. None of what these Youtubers do affects me in my personal life. So I couldn’t care how they do it, accept for when there’s too much talking and not enough sounds.
Hopefully the video might have a piece of gear I was interested in or help me eliminate a piece of gear. I don’t expect too much more than that. If I don’t like the personality of someone in the way they present the content, It’s as simple as any TV show movie I don’t like. I don’t watch it. There will be 10 other videos on the same gear by different people.

This x10000!

 

[thegame]

I know it’s irksome when they do that but I just ignore them, knowing it’s bullshit for clicks and keep moving. I’ve learned to really raise my douche tolerance threshold after years on the internet. You’ll never stop it.
Wait ‘til we have completely A.I. gear videos, that just use existing aggregated sound samples from years of demo’s online. Even the A.I. will have a video “I can’t go on!!,” complaining about the shit coding out of Bangladesh messing with their cognitive algorithm.
whole new age of artistic depravity awaits us.

…with a Japanese A.I. K-pop schoolgirl uniform wearing guitar virtuoso donning a Chibson trucker cap

 

[DrewJD82]

Please tell me, where did you obtain your PhD in missing the point entrenchmentism (yeah, I added the ism because I felt like it) since there’s no way anyone is that naturally gifted at it. Ok, I’ll Sunday school you for free just this once. YouTubers can’t make videos lamenting thé possibly that the world is ending (as far as their YT careers go) one minute to up their click count, then next week it’s business as usual as if last week’s existential dilemma never happened. That’s not integrity but it is what rubs people the wrong way, far more than mere silly faces do.

Your class sucks. Youtubers CAN title their videos with any dumb shit they want. They’ve been doing it and will continue doing so, probably bringing them more views in the process.

You guys allow yourselves to get butthurt over words on a screen that don’t mean shit to anyone, anywhere at anytime. I can’t believe I’m discussing this with an adult, I feel like I should be having this discussion with my 6-year old nephew.

 

[Speeddemon]

Your class sucks. Youtubers CAN title their videos with any dumb shit they want. They’ve been doing it and will continue doing so, probably bringing them more views in the process.

You guys allow yourselves to get butthurt over words on a screen that don’t mean shit to anyone, anywhere at anytime. I can’t believe I’m discussing this with an adult, I feel like I should be having this discussion with my 6-year old nephew.

Dude, you keep hanging on to the title thing. No, that's just a small part of it. So, @thegame was completely right with his 'Entrenchmentism' comment towards you. Your referring to hypothetical buddies wearing poloshirts for conglomorates... That's not the fuckin' point. AT ALL.

It's about integrity.

If your hypothetical buddy continuously would post on X of FB about the shitty situation in a non-disclosed middle-eastern country and how we should care more and do something about it, while keeping working and raking in big bucks at a company that supplies military equipment to the adversary of that non-disclosed middle-eastern country, do you still shrug it off as "Why u so triggered, bro?" or do you question your buddies morals and integrity?!

And Kyle coming here talking about revisionist history, that's....wow... that's rich.

But sure, cue comments about living rent-free.

 

[DanTravis62]

Your class sucks. Youtubers CAN title their videos with any dumb shit they want. They’ve been doing it and will continue doing so, probably bringing them more views in the process.

You guys allow yourselves to get butthurt over words on a screen that don’t mean shit to anyone, anywhere at anytime. I can’t believe I’m discussing this with an adult, I feel like I should be having this discussion with my 6-year old nephew.

Are you seriously defending soyface thumbnails and clickbait? And trying to convince people that MAKING FUN of gay shit like that is actually the "crashout", and not the crashouts that follow from making fun of it?

You realize just saying "no U" is a meme for a reason, right?

Obviously it "meant shit" to you because youve posted about it like 10 times on this thread

 

[DrewJD82]

Dude, you keep hanging on to the title thing. No, that's just a small part of it. So, @thegame was completely right with his 'Entrenchism' comment towards you. You keep referring to hypothetical buddies wearing poloshirts for conglomorates. That's not the fuckin' point.

It's about integrity. If your hypothetical buddy continuously would post on X of FB about the shitty situation in a non-disclosed middle-eastern country and how we should care more and do something about it, while keeping working and raking in big bucks at a company that supplies military equipment to the adversary of that non-disclosed middle-eastern country, do you still shrug it off as "Why u so triggered, bro?" or do you question your buddies morals and integrity?!

And Kyle coming here talking about revisionist history, that's....that's rich.

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Oh….shit….is this an autism thing?

In that case, my bad, it’s hard to recognize it through a screen, but when I saw the comparison of a geartuber’s videos to war in the Middle East I caught on.

 

[thegame]

Dude, you keep hanging on to the title thing. No, that's just a small part of it. So, @thegame was completely right with his 'Entrenchmentism' comment towards you. Your referring to hypothetical buddies wearing poloshirts for conglomorates... That's not the fuckin' point. AT ALL.

It's about integrity.

If your hypothetical buddy continuously would post on X of FB about the shitty situation in a non-disclosed middle-eastern country and how we should care more and do something about it, while keeping working and raking in big bucks at a company that supplies military equipment to the adversary of that non-disclosed middle-eastern country, do you still shrug it off as "Why u so triggered, bro?" or do you question your buddies morals and integrity?!

And Kyle coming here talking about revisionist history, that's....wow... that's rich.

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But sure, cue comments about living rent-free.

Thanks but I have a confession to make. I failed to realize that you can’t debate the topic of integrity with those who don’t believe in it

 

[DrewJD82]

Are you seriously defending soyface thumbnails and clickbait? And trying to convince people that MAKING FUN of gay shit like that is actually the "crashout", and not the crashouts that follow from making fun of it?

You realize just saying "no U" is a meme for a reason, right?

Obviously it "meant shit" to you because youve posted about it like 10 times on this thread

Nah, I actually covered that on the previous page-

I admit, I’ve eye-rolled plenty at video titles and thumbnails. For a good year or two I refused to watch any video that had the youtuber’s mouth hanging open and every time I heard “the algorithm demands it” I questioned it considerably. Alas, they rarely had anything to do with the actual content of the videos and I was only restricting myself from seeing shit I was interested in. Turns out, I can watch the videos and never think about the titles or thumbnails ever again.

I just don’t see this shit as being nearly as important as some of you do here, there’s ample shit going on in my life that doesn’t cause me to think twice about the title of a fuckin’ youtube video or the content of videos I have no interest in watching and the display of “We’re superior because we know integrity” is amusing, or something similar to amusing.

The only part that “means something” is the shitting on a dude who is into the same shit I’m into, badass amps and guitars. I find that to be pretty shitty behavior and while I may not dig the way he does his thing 100% of the time, I don’t see it being a reason to assume I understand his motivations in life or a statement of his integrity. See my posts about Glenn Fricker for a 180 on my Kyle take.

 

[LeftOurEyes]

I always enjoy the comments "They must just be jealous." when you don't like someone, certain Youtubers in this instance. As if there is no other possible explanation that someone doesn't like you.

 

[thegame]

Your class sucks. Youtubers CAN title their videos with any dumb shit they want. They’ve been doing it and will continue doing so, probably bringing them more views in the process.

You guys allow yourselves to get butthurt over words on a screen that don’t mean shit to anyone, anywhere at anytime. I can’t believe I’m discussing this with an adult, I feel like I should be having this discussion with my 6-year old nephew.

You failed my Sunday school sermon. For detention, you have to go out back behind the chapel and give Father Kyle Bluebullballs his mangasm. He’s reached the limit of your foreplay inducing posts defending him.

 

[Speeddemon]

Oh….shit….is this an autism thing?

In that case, my bad, it’s hard to recognize it through a screen, but when I saw the comparison of a geartuber’s videos to war in the Middle East I caught on.

So...lemme get this straight... because YOU can't catch on to my analogy about integrity, *I* have autism?

And even more rich; you totally accept hyperboles from Youtubers solely for their clout ("everyone...YES...every-fucking-one is using the wrong pickups for metal"), "Hey man, it's just words, they don't mean anything, why u so butthurt" but when someone makes a -perhaps rather blunt- analogy, no sirrey, we can't have any of that. You must have autism for your black-and-white-way of thinking...

Luckily I don't throw out accusations of medical conditions or psychological disorders so carelessly to others,... then again... does the 'JD' in your nickname stand for "Just Down-syndrome"?

Autism-accusation aside, I told you before, I have a strongly developed BS meter and I call it when I see it. If you don't like that, tough cookies.

Good day sir.

 

[Speeddemon]

I always enjoy the comments "They must just be jealous." when you don't like someone, certain Youtubers in this instance. As if there is no other possible explanation that someone doesn't like you.

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It's the same with failed movies, where the studio is force-feeding the crowd diversity and inclusion and when the movie itself is just subpar, they defend it with 'Y'all racist or can't stand a lesbian lead" or something if the ratings and reviews are low... When something's shitty, something's shitty.

 

[DanTravis62]

Nah, I actually covered that on the previous page-



I just don’t see this shit as being nearly as important as some of you do here, there’s ample shit going on in my life that doesn’t cause me to think twice about the title of a fuckin’ youtube video or the content of videos I have no interest in watching and the display of “We’re superior because we know integrity” is amusing, or something similar to amusing.

The only part that “means something” is the shitting on a dude who is into the same shit I’m into, badass amps and guitars. I find that to be pretty shitty behavior and while I may not dig the way he does his thing 100% of the time, I don’t see it being a reason to assume I understand his motivations in life or a statement of his integrity. See my posts about Glenn Fricker for a 180 on my Kyle take.

"Important" is relative and people are annoyed with lame "algorithm chasing" for a reason - it's lame and gay.

Gear youtube cratering in views and revenue is a direct result of it's lameness. See henning pauly's recent youtube crashouts for a data point.

BTW I like kyles videos and think the basic idea of his channel is a good idea. I like that he always uses a 57 and his recordings are consistent. But his thumbnails and clickbait titles are indeed totally gay, so it's completely understandable that someone would make fun of it. Comes with the territory

 

[Speeddemon]

"Important" is relative and people are annoyed with lame "algorithm chasing" for a reason - it's lame and gay.

Gear youtube cratering in views and revenue is a direct result of it's lameness. See henning pauly's recent youtube crashouts for a data point.

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BTW I like kyles videos and think the basic idea of his channel is a good idea. I like that he always uses a 57 and his recordings are consistent. But his thumbnails and clickbait titles are indeed totally gay, so it's completely understandable that someone would make fun of it. Comes with the territory

x10000!

And for the record, I wasn't (or at least I sincerely FEEL I wasn't) shitting on Kyle at all. But when a genuine question is being shrugged off, twisted and projected, am I not allowed to voice my opinion? That Kyle's channel went into a direction I didn't care for... That I'm not fond of the clickbaity thumbnails and titles...
I mean, Leon Todd has a popular channel and he seems to use WAY less of that, so either the algorhithm doesn't need to be fed BS as much, or people recognize good content by themselves anyway.

So as @DanTravis62 said, "Important" is very, very relative. I have other stuff going on in my life, and watching gear videos is quite a bit lower on my interests-list than it was a few years ago. Once Engl releases a large glass, large iron, small form factor 3 channel Savage/Invader tube head, wake me up.

 

[Smash]

Who are you to decide what someone else’s level of integrity is? How does that even work?

If your friend gets a new job and has to wear a stupid shirt but the new job gives your friend the life he wants to live, does he not have integrity because he has to wear a stupid polo? Shirt comes with the territory and changes nothing about your friend, he just wears it because it comes with the job.

Then again, I’m responding to someone who uses the word “beta’ non ironically.

Integrity is not complicated. If you make a clickbait title that isnt accurate to the video, that is already a lack of integrity.

It is obvious that you love Kyle's dick, and it is no big deal. I don't care about you any more than him.

 

[tallcoolone]

You can’t tell me you’re not looking to get triggered by something after writing that post.

I’m on my lunch break and spent 5 minutes skimming that pickup video, literally the only thing he’s saying (I have to assume you didn’t watch it) is “Sometimes high output pickups don’t work like you expect them to with high gain amps” and that’s it. He figured out how to stretch that into a 17 minute video. He never said he was never using them again or that anyone else couldn’t be using them, just that sometimes they over compress when being used with a high gain amp and might not deliver what you expect. Which is true. And I’d imagine the overwhelming majority of his viewers are people younger than him, with less experience.

And that makes him a dumbass for using them in another video? What part of your brain said “It’s logical to call him out over this”? I’m genuinely curious. “Hey Kyle, you said in one video that high output pickups MIGHT over-compress a high gain amp, so what the fuck were you doing using high output pickups with the IIC+ even though you never said anything about not using them again?? HUH?? ANSWER THAT BITCH!!!”

And I sure hope all you tossing that sell-out term around are doing what you love for a living and not a single bit of your job is unappealing, because if Kyle’s a sell-out for playing and talking about gear all day, what’s that make for those of us who don’t do something with music for a living? Personally, I sold out the day I stopped pursuing a career in music and got a job in the trades because I allowed money to get between myself and my dream job. Fortunately, I’m a fuck of a lot happier and own most of the gear I wanted because of that job, but I’d still prefer to actually play the gear for a living.

This is no different than the tan pants crew at TGP shitting on Rhett Shull whenever he makes a video, it equally screams of dudes in their 50’s/60’s who aren’t happy with the way life turned out, being jealous of someone younger than them who figured out how to earn a living doing what they love. That’s 2 youtubers I’ve subscribed to in the last 2 weeks just because they’ve triggered people over absolutely nothing. I tend to be more of a ‘high tides raises all ships’ type.

Post of the week right here

TBH, I think I’d be embarrassed to know these guys’ full names, never mind having them live in my head so much I’m rage posting about them on the internet

 

[Smash]

Lol, I got butthurt over being called out.
Revisionist history is great if. the person isn't here to refute it. Not that that really matters, beause some of these dudes live in their own world.

Same person I've always been. Haven't changed a bit. Always been thankful for what I get to do. Never taken money to deliver a video where I didn't believe in every word I've said. Never taken money to fluff a product, because that's not the style of my videos. Said no to tons of stuff that would have paid me well because I didn't like the terms or the product didn't make sense. If I like something, I'll let you know. If I don't like it, I'll tell you it's not for me, but here's who will probably dig it. I just don't believe that there is much inherently "bad" gear these days, and apparently some dudes perceive that as shilling.

Some people can't fathom the idea that youtubers aren't all bought and paid for by the companies who send them products. Some people are just angry and bitter no matter what. I completely understand the idea that someone couldn't possibly be impartial when a product is sent to them or they are paid, but I also fully believe there can be arguments made that someone who buys a piece of gear to review it could be more invested because it's something they were interested in enough to spend money so therefore they have personal stock in the situation. We see this all the time with people being in love with an amp or guitar at first, and after a few weeks they have a bunch of complaints and move it on. Both things can be true. It's a matter of perspective.

Also, when I say "my friends at so and so company" that's because I now have friends at those companies. I'm sorry if that seems disingenuous, ut I acvtually do form lasting relationships with a lot of people behind the scenes at these companies. Your example - Gibson - I have a good friend who works in their content department, and we talk often about more regular life shit than we do about gear. We talk about meeting up when we will be in the same areas just to catch up. I'd say that would be considered a friend in my book. I've long talked about forming relationships with people in the industry being my favorite part about this job. Maybe you missed it.

I'm a happy guy who enjoys gear. Talking about it, playing it, buying and selling it. There are some wonderful people on this forum and honestly, this was one of the last to fall. Unfortunately, the current nature of the internet is toxic and confrontational. I'm not on this forum any more becasue i'd rather focus my time on creative or productive endeavors.

Some people in here have a hate boner and love to just make shit up. I also think it's hilarious how OBSESSED with Youtubers this forum has become. Every time I loig in here just to see what's going on, there is at least one thread on the front page talking about Youtubers in a derogatory manner. Pretty funny to witness.

As for your comment, Smash - I seem to remember you being particular mad about my video where I talk about liking PAF pickups through high gain amps and explaining my reasons why. I had Sweetwater sponsor that video because I wanted to check out their Gibson PAF collab pickups, so I used them for the video and talked about them. That's called a product placement, ad that's how it worked. I straight up told them, if I didn't like the pickups, I'd send them back and use something else. I tried them, I liked them, so I used them. I didn't say they were the best ever. I didn't say you HAD to use them. I simply explained why I liked them for thsi purpose. The title was "You're Using the Wrong Pickups for Metal" or something along those lines. It's ment to be tongue in cheek, which 95% of my audience understood, but you seemed to take that line REALLY personally and continuously attacked me for it. Shit is silly.

So yeah, I didn't get butthurt and leave becasue you guys "called me out" I just got tired of all the weird, obessive toxicity over youtubers here and decided to spend my time elsewhere. As I've checked into this forum, I see not much has changed. Still some great folks, still some fuckin weirdos. If you're reading this worried I'm talking about you....what does that say?

Anyways, I'll have a booth set up at the Guitar Show in Cuyahoga Falls this Sunday. I'll be there hanging out, selling some gear, but mostly bullshitting and meeting up to chat with people, because believe it or not, I still like to talk about gear like a noraml gearhead does. Feel free to come say hi and hang out if you'll be there. Feel free to also come talk shit to my face, since nobody ever seems to do that when they meet the people they're constantly trying to ridicule online.

That is a ton of words. But let me just clarify it for you. In the thread, you defended yourself at first, and it was funny. I respected it. But then you started getting weird and butthurt.

But to cut straight through the bullshit, realistically I and a lot of others liked you. We even appreciated the candor of your videos. So when you went to the dark side, we were disappointed. Then we had fun at your expense and were probably a little overboard. And if you just handled it like a man, I would have been fine.

At the end of the day, I don't really care about you that much. I just use you as the butt of the joke because that is what you made yourself into

 

[Speeddemon]

never mind having them live in my head so much I’m rage posting about them on the internet

Seems your pal Drew is exuding more rage here than the rest of us combined...