RaceU4her
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sounds pretty damn good
CarlF
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Sounds great! I'm not into the chugging shit but he has a good ear. I agree w/ most of what he had to say. I prefered the Synergy and it is gonna be my next toy for sure.
I'm going for a Brad Gillis Speak Of The Devil tones and I think I can get close.
I'm going for a Brad Gillis Speak Of The Devil tones and I think I can get close.
RaceU4her
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he is one of the few reviewers i trust as he sounds pretty much like i do through the same few amps we both have, others im not sure how they get the tones they do lol
J
JimAnsell
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"theres also a clean channel... but who gives a shit about that?" lol
Beyond Black
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Gillis’ SOTD tone is still one of my favorite tones of all time. Please post clips of your results.
mnemonic
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Lmao when he pushes the 6600hz slider all the way up.
The iicp sounded a little tighter and edgier, I wonder if that could be compensated with reducing the treble and/or increasing the bass slightly?
The iicp sounded a little tighter and edgier, I wonder if that could be compensated with reducing the treble and/or increasing the bass slightly?
midnightlaundry
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FUCK that GEQ.. I'm so over it.. It's the biggest pain in the ass about a Mark..
One slight move on a slider and you're teleported to shit tone land..
One slight move on a slider and you're teleported to shit tone land..
cardinal
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I don't even touch the high mid or low mid one any more. Just too much to bother with. Drop the middle one until it starts to sound like shit. Increase the treble until it gets too bright. Increase the bass until it starts sounding woofy. That's pretty easy and quick and sound good to me. Anything else is just never ending tweak land.
Metalhex
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Just use your ears to find the sweet spot then set it and forget it.
midnightlaundry
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I've played Mark stuff for years.
I've moved on to Fryette.
I've moved on to Fryette.
JackBootedThug
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where did synergy shit come from? I'm digging that fo sho....
J
JimAnsell
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oh its just that easy eh? What about moving around the room, then all the sudden "oh shit, i need to pop that 750hz up just an atom of a movement and "oups! too much". I adore the onboard mark series 5 band though. i with every amp came with one. you can make it sound like 80's bathory one minute, or lamb of god modern style metal with the movement of some faders.
Beyond Black
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Agreed, the GEQ fucking rules, and I’d also take it on any amp. It can do any tone you desire within seconds. And I dig your 80’s Bathory reference.
ZEN Amps
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Looks like the didn't clone the graphic very closely, curious. Couple that with the tiny sliders and I'm not sure it's my idea of a good time, but I'm sure it will sell well to those sans-boogie.
CarlF
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Metalhex
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You sound like the type to never be satisfied then, ? ?
godgrinder
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My gut feeling is that it's based on the Fryette GEQ, which are extremely touchy.
J
JimAnsell
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"MAYBE I'M JUST LIKE MY MOTHER...." Of course we're never satisfied, we're tone chasers!
J
JimAnsell
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watched that whole thing. thanks for putting that into my radar. tons of great info. the limey interviewing him is so green (no pun intended) that he just lets steve talk. good shit for the boogie geek. most of the stuff he is saying is like confirmation for me on stuff i was suspect of. like mesa beta testing their amps on their customers ever since the mark I -> II era. they do that shit until this day, for better or worse. hey, at least they're innovative, and give a fuck enough to keep refining.
ALSO AT 41:45 HE REVEALS THE MARK IIC++ SECRET SAUCE!!!!!! </clickbait>
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cardinal
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That sounded great. Two things I guess:
1) The Mark II loop return is before the last gain stage I think, so this not an entirely transparent test of just this preamp
2) Fractal has a similar issue with its Mark models: the preamp sounds really good but the sweep of the GEQ is not like the real thing, so there's a huge learning curve trying to figure out what works. The Mesa sweep sounds fine until suddenly it sounds pretty awful, which I think is helpful. The Fractal sweep and maybe the Synergy sweep is more gradual and has so much more range, it's much more frustrating to figure out.
1) The Mark II loop return is before the last gain stage I think, so this not an entirely transparent test of just this preamp
2) Fractal has a similar issue with its Mark models: the preamp sounds really good but the sweep of the GEQ is not like the real thing, so there's a huge learning curve trying to figure out what works. The Mesa sweep sounds fine until suddenly it sounds pretty awful, which I think is helpful. The Fractal sweep and maybe the Synergy sweep is more gradual and has so much more range, it's much more frustrating to figure out.