How about that stock market!

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70 Mach 1 said:
i hate trump now. he wiped out my portfolio. I want him out of office. Cocksucker made me broke.
I hate him and admit i was so so wrong all these years. He's a no good psychopath


Give me Kamala so China can take us over and I can finally learn Mandarin


you dem assholes. Id rather be temporarily broke than a commie lover bending over to world leaders like a prison bitch
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I was right there with you up until Kamala. Don't you know she's out and AOC and Jasmine Crockett are in. They'll be the ones to lead us into a prosperous future. And screw Mandarin, we're going to be learning Cantonese.
 
JackTripper said:
It’s not chaotic, it’s bush league. Private and foreign money are leaving the markets as we continue to antagonize and isolate allies and it’s getting baked into the cake. It wasn’t the stock market or “Trump Put” that caused yesterday's "pivot", it was the bond market. Bessent offered up a benign anecdotal explanation, but it could be a far uglier scenario and that’s what spooked him. If he wants to take a victory lap, then let him. Without policy clarity, certainty and stability, companies and investments will sit tight, which means no growth.
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I see you've been given the latest talking point. I'm glad we have brothers in arms like you to fight against Evil Orange and save us from prosperity. Keep up the good work. We all support what you're doing. (y)
 
JackTripper said:
It’s not chaotic, it’s bush league. Private and foreign money are leaving the markets as we continue to antagonize and isolate allies and it’s getting baked into the cake. It wasn’t the stock market or “Trump Put” that caused yesterday's "pivot", it was the bond market. Bessent offered up a benign anecdotal explanation, but it could be a far uglier scenario and that’s what spooked him. If he wants to take a victory lap, then let him. Without policy clarity, certainty and stability, companies and investments will sit tight, which means no growth.
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You could be right, you could be wrong but either way this country could not sustain the path it was on.

I would prefer DT bring back constitutional money but that would hurt 95% of the population.

I am willing to give him time and see where this goes before I criticism him.

But, by all means, continue your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
 
JackTripper said:
It wasn’t the stock market or “Trump Put” that caused yesterday's "pivot", it was the bond market.
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There was no Trump put. Trump backed down and that's what alleviated the pressure. Treasuries initially rallied on liberation day, and then reversed on the 7th on what news I don't know. Maybe it was China selling. Either way Bessant's hedge fund friends were about to get steamrolled on their basis trades, just like December 2019.
 
trumpy aint no dope. Id bet hes buying call shots and making a ton of $$$ on the ups
talk about control of your own destiny. He shoots off his mouth, market drops
then he reverses it and buys it all back at a discount
 
If it was China selling that caused the panic then they have more leverage than I thought.
 
Geo said:
You could be right, you could be wrong but either way this country could not sustain the path it was on.

I would prefer DT bring back constitutional money but that would hurt 95% of the population.

I am willing to give him time and see where this goes before I criticism him.

But, by all means, continue your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Tinker bell comes back every four years, especially this time since his hero Kameltoe lost. :ROFLMAO:

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JackTripper said:
It’s not chaotic, it’s bush league. Private and foreign money are leaving the markets as we continue to antagonize and isolate allies and it’s getting baked into the cake. It wasn’t the stock market or “Trump Put” that caused yesterday's "pivot", it was the bond market. Bessent offered up a benign anecdotal explanation, but it could be a far uglier scenario and that’s what spooked him. If he wants to take a victory lap, then let him. Without policy clarity, certainty and stability, companies and investments will sit tight, which means no growth.
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Bless your misguided heart. You actually think a successful global economy is achievable, viable and "fair"
 
Geo said:
You could be right, you could be wrong but either way this country could not sustain the path it was on.

I would prefer DT bring back constitutional money but that would hurt 95% of the population.

I am willing to give him time and see where this goes before I criticism him.

But, by all means, continue your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Yes, I could be right or wrong, hopefully wrong. But would you invest your money in someone you couldn’t trust beyond next week or next year?

Fuck the TDS shit (but I gotta be honest, I love triggering the imps that hang out here all day with nothing better to do:LOL:). I’m all for deregulation and tax cuts at the core, which is the centerpiece of Trump’s fiscal agenda. And I’m all for the small businesses selling their wares on Main Street. But if they want to make it to Main Blvd, then they need banks and/or investors. And if they want to sell beyond their state line or border, then they need Wall Street, which doesn’t like bush league chaos.
 
JackTripper said:
Yes, I could be right or wrong, hopefully wrong. But would you invest your money in someone you couldn’t trust beyond next week or next year?

Fuck the TDS shit (but I gotta be honest, I love triggering the imps that hang out here all day with nothing better to do:LOL:). I’m all for deregulation and tax cuts at the core, which is the centerpiece of Trump’s fiscal agenda. And I’m all for the small businesses selling their wares on Main Street. But if they want to make it to Main Blvd, then they need banks and/or investors. And if they want to sell beyond their state line or border, then they need Wall Street, which doesn’t like bush league chaos.
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Outcomes are all that matter.

We are not there yet, not even close.
 
JackTripper said:
Yes, I could be right or wrong, hopefully wrong. But would you invest your money in someone you couldn’t trust beyond next week or next year?

Fuck the TDS shit (but I gotta be honest, I love triggering the imps that hang out here all day with nothing better to do:LOL:). I’m all for deregulation and tax cuts at the core, which is the centerpiece of Trump’s fiscal agenda. And I’m all for the small businesses selling their wares on Main Street. But if they want to make it to Main Blvd, then they need banks and/or investors. And if they want to sell beyond their state line or border, then they need Wall Street, which doesn’t like bush league chaos.
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Are you on the show with Bloodcock?
 
Bad Brain said:
There was no Trump put. Trump backed down and that's what alleviated the pressure. Treasuries initially rallied on liberation day, and then reversed on the 7th on what news I don't know. Maybe it was China selling. Either way Bessant's hedge fund friends were about to get steamrolled on their basis trades, just like December 2019.
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It's called compromise in the real world. Trump and other countries, except for China, came to a compromise on balanced trade.

Sometimes you can't always get what you want but you get what you need as the saying goes and the US didn't get everything and the other countries didn't get everything but 10% tariffs are still in place across the board and 0% reciprocal tariffs are on the table when they never were before.
 
At this point given that the trench lines have been set and drawn......


I don't expect the US to raise offensive measures because there is no need for it, today the market hurts a bit but Essentially the best outcome could have been gotten for the US at this point and nothing is Chinas favor and now it's time to let it cool and wait for further negotiations and no more escalation IMO. What's the point of kicking someone when they are down when you already won.....


Best thing to do is work out the best deals with the countries at the table and go from there.
 
Bad Brain said:
If it was China selling that caused the panic then they have more leverage than I thought.
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Yeah, if China/Japan began dumping their mortgage-backed securities, it would be a direct hit to the housing market. The Blazing Saddle, his mom and his aunt-cousin would have to reinstall the wheels on their house and move out of their lot.
 
JackTripper said:
Yeah, if China/Japan began dumping their mortgage-backed securities, it would be a direct hit to the housing market. The Blazing Saddle, his mom and his aunt-cousin would have to reinstall the wheels on their house and move out of their lot.
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Such a scenario isn't just unlikely on Japans or Chinas part but really not in eithers character even Chinas nvm Japans.

I don't see the Chinese escalating anymore and they are simply in a defensive posture now and using soft diplomacy to get it's own deals done with other countries much like the US is doing.
 
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