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VonBonfire
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What bothers you so much about it?
RGX_Custom
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It makes you so happy though, with the bold letters too! Chet the beta-male cuck is back!
Are you self projecting again Andrew?
Thumbpicker
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How about it being contrary to the word of God in promoting and advocating for behaviours and lifestyles that God's word clearly deplores.
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VonBonfire
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It's the logical conclusion-destination of the heresies you've already embraced.
Thumbpicker
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The only heresy is departing from the Bible and making up stuff which is something the Catholic and Orthodox Churches do as well - just in different areas.
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VonBonfire
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Every protestant thinks they have the holy spirit and can self interpret scripture via that, which is why they come up with clown shit like gay pastors and priests. You yourself own that mindset.
Thumbpicker
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Breaking this down.
There has always been a tradition of studying the scriptures - even in Old Testament times. You don't need to be a Rabbi or a theological student to do it. There is plenty of material and commentaries to help in that regard.
As for "every protestant" and the jump to gay pastors and priests - mate you are on drugs. There are heaps of protestants who detest that.
Psalm 119:11 I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you.
Timothy 3:16 All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
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RGX_Custom
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Don't mind Sparky the Christian Clown. He's nothing but a troll and thinks Jesus gave him a license to be an asshole.
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VonBonfire
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Right, and protestants think they can self interpret the scriptures via the holy spirit. Studying is one thing, but you guys play choose your own theology which is why there are hundreds of protestant denominations and now people, thinking they have the holy spirit, allowing gay women priests to preach.
I'm only saying that gay women pastors is the logical conclusion of putting a stamp of approval on self interpretation. The people who do so, like you, also think they are inspired by the holy spirit, but they, like you, are just deep in heresy though perhaps a little more than you are today.
Thumbpicker
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Every Christian has been given the Holy Spirit. If you don't have the Holy Spirt you aren't a Christian. Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
Having the Holy Spirit does not give you licence to do what the Bible says you shouldn't do. If you do then you are sinning. As for gay and women pastors those people need to be corrected and if they won't be corrected they should be removed from the Church. Unfortunately that's how splits in Churches happen.
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VonBonfire
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You believe in self interpretation. You make yourself your own bishop, create your own "bible based" guidelines, and build a Christ in your own image. A lesbian pastor does exactly the same thing and you hypocritically make a call out on their "wrong" version of Christianity.
Thumbpicker
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I cannot be responsible for people that twist the Bible for their own agendas. However the Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches have also done that including introducing hierarchies and deceptions as to who and who can't interpret the scriptures. For years the Catholic church used to deliver masses in England in Latin to obfuscate the word of God from the people. Again I come back to the only thing we can do is go back to the source which is the Bible. The things that you seem to condemn regarding female priests and gay priests can all be addressed by referring to God's word. It is not necessary to be a Catholic or an Orthodox Church member to know this is wrong. It's clear in the Bible and from the context in the Bible as well.
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VonBonfire
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This is still wrong. 2 Thessalonians 2 15 says hold fast to that which we have handed down to you whether by WORD OF MOUTH (sayings of early church fathers) or by LETTER i.e scripture. So you're omitting the word of mouth section, declaring the scripture as the sole authoritative source (meanwhile removing part of the canon altogether) and then self interpreting it in a way that suits you because you think you have been granted that authority by the holy spirit. The lesbian pastor does the same as you do, only they use different parts of the bible to justify their self interpretation. You're the pot calling the kettle black.
Thumbpicker
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Word of mouth cannot contradict the scripture. If it can then the word of mouth is wrong. Just as scripture cannot contradict scripture
Thumbpicker
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The word of mouth the Catholic Church uses does however contradict scripture.
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VonBonfire
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None of the writings of the early church fathers contradict scripture. Those ideas that did were condemned in ecumenical councils, the whole point of which was to stamp out heretical teachings.
Thumbpicker
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Clearly the ecumenical councils failed when it comes to the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church.
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VonBonfire
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Most of your church theology is based around those councils, hello. They are cited when it suits the self-interpreter, like everything else in the protestant world.
Thumbpicker
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If they are being used to justify the deviations from the BIble that the Catholic Church and Orthodox Church practice then clearly they have failed. If that's not the reason for the deviations then they have not failed. You were the one citing them as justification.
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VonBonfire
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They are the foundation of my faith, and a good portion of yours actually, it's just that catholics deviated from them in favor of papal authority and over disagreements about the procession of the holy spirit in 1054.