Recommend a Delay and Reverb pedal for 80s metal

GrimTrigger said:
This is the only digital amp model I’m interested in. But even though it sounds awesome for that 80s sound ala Ethan Brosh a little antiquated in terms of features (no usb).

I emailed ISP and they told me they have something new in the works….
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Yes, it's old school; it reminds me of my old rack gear from back in the day (ADA) in a floorboard format, and programming patches on that little LCD screen was and still is tedious compared to touchscreens and software editors today...but the sounds in the ISP kit are worth it.

Last year I made a computer software rig, and I use that 90%+ of the time, with no plans to get any more hardware gear, amps or cabs. I still have around a dozen tube amps, most 100W no plans to sell, but I've sold / selling my hardware modelers....so I don't plan to get any new ISP hardware gear either.

Nothing like 50W, 100W tube amps with the power amp opened up, but that's because I'm old and nostalgic....my computer plugin rig is really all I need.
 
GrimTrigger said:
What about the MLC stereo line mixer? I’m confused how you set individual levels for effects. It only has the Mix 1 and Mix 2 like the old Bradshaw racks. Not sure how it works.
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Generally with parallel mixers you control the mix with the output level of your effects unit. Run mix at 100% and control the amount of effect with the output level.
 
Shask said:
Yeah, that seems to be the number 1 choice if I were to go that route. I just wish it were smaller and simpler.

I was thinking about a RJM Micro Line Mixer, which would work awesome, but then I realized without a way to shut off the loops I would have level issues using the normal bypass switches of the pedals, so I dont think that would work.
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@Shask

Here’s an idea to get the RJM Micro Line Mixer to work with bypassing effects (and do so via MIDI).

This ABY pedal by Oscillator Devices has MIDI controlled disconnect for A or B or both.

Oscillator Devices ABY Manual

So you could come out of the Buffer Out sending the output to the input of the ABY pedal and out each A and B channel to the input of your effects pedal. Those would go stereo out from each effects pedal back into the RJM mixer to get mixed in as 100% wet with your dry. The Buffer Out on the RJM is a TRS out so you could come out with a Y cable and send it to another ABY pedal to mix in your third effects pedal since the RJM allows for up to three stereo inputs.

I already for the Samson SM-10 and it works well but I may do this instead.
 
Shask said:
With a parallel line level mixer you can keep your signal analog and just mix in some of the digital tone on top of it. Way more transparent. The downside is the complexity, and you can't use effects that require 100% signal like gate, eq, and tremolo. It is great for modulation, delay, and Reverb. This is how it was done in the 80s and 90s with all the classic rack units.

Yes, I have said online many times that I find the Fractal units remove punch and blur the low end. Many people always argue with me and say they don't hear it.

The problem with looking at rack units is they are all old at this point and don't have modern convenience like USB and computer editors. I have several of them, and they sound great, but I would question that starting today. However, something like an Intellifex has an analog mixer built in, so it sounds more transparent than something that digitizes the whole signal.
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I have never really familiarized myself with mixers in the fx loop. So one is putting a mixer in serial loop and it preserves the tone in case an fx unit is not preserving the original signal well?
 
Jakem said:
I have never really familiarized myself with mixers in the fx loop. So one is putting a mixer in serial loop and it preserves the tone in case an fx unit is not preserving the original signal well?
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Yeah, it gives you a direct analog signal through the amp and the digital effects are only mixed on top of that. Your signal is never 100% digitized. This is far more transparent and dynamic. You also don't get digital conversion latency.

Pedals with analog dry through are basically doing the same thing.
 
Shask said:
Yeah, it gives you a direct analog signal through the amp and the digital effects are only mixed on top of that. Your signal is never 100% digitized. This is far more transparent and dynamic. You also don't get digital conversion latency.

Pedals with analog dry through are basically doing the same thing.
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Thanks for the clarification!
 
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