Kapo_Polenton
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Sadly just noise. Still has to be musical and I think she will do great in RUSH but that track is a never listen to again in my life.
Sadly just noise. Still has to be musical and I think she will do great in RUSH but that track is a never listen to again in my life.
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njshred
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It’s been a decade, they miss playing, people are willing to buy tickets. If you want to go, do so. If not, don’t, no one cares.
ZEEGLER
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Exactly! If you're an old bitch griping about it, no one cares, especially not Geddy or Alex.
rstites
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I suspect this is one of those things that dragged out a bit longer with things around covid too, so without that maybe it'd have been a year or two earlier. Still, they had to mourn Peart and heal enough from that to move on.
The fact that people are pissed about it is puzzling. Rush has always conducted themselves with class, so I'm not sure why anyone would care if they go back out and have some fun with their fans. Like I said above, I doubt I'll go. I've seen them over two dozen times over the years and that's probably sufficient for me - unless they add dates and end up in town - but if they and others have a good time, it doesn't negatively impact me in any way.
romanianreaper
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I agree with you and think it is a good thing.
I remember when Soundgarden did some shows a year or two ago with a female singer. Maybe Geddy and Alex did a similar thing. Get someone relatively unknown to the casual fan who is a German female, but still an incredible musician. It doesn't feel like a replacement like some bands have done (KISS, Motley Crue, etc).
I remember when RaceU4her saw the Pantera reunion and immediately was out and I totally understand that. I saw KISS eith and without original members and is different. This Rush thing to me feels authentic and just from a place of friendship and those two getting to get out and celebrate their music. I mean it's been over 10 years. They have to miss it.
rstites
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So, I'm seeing ticket prices in the presale in the hundreds up to a thousand dollars. Is that typical now for a concert? I guess I haven't been to a concert for a number of years at this point. I love Rush and I'd consider going if they rolled through here but probably not at those rates. If they're selling out, more power to 'em.
RaceU4her
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Fans are not happy with Rush ticket prices
Reports from fans across different cities suggest that ticket prices for Rush reunion tour range from $350 to $400 for mid-level seats, $300-plus for nosebleeds, and “premium packages” ranging from $650 to $2,500.
RaceU4her
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ive honestly still not heard one note of Phil and the Boys, not even by accident like one popping up on autoplay on youtube as they are always recommending me, or one of the threads here. im not even the least bit curious.
WizardAmpIphoneClip
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As expected
RaceU4her
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As expected
people always get tender when i say something is a money grab, but im not looking at it as a bad thing, i think anyone should be able to make whatever money they can.. but lets just call it what it is. just once id like a band to call a tour the "We havent spoken in years but we are out of money and you will dip into your retirement fund to pay ours" tour or something.
Floyd Eye
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Many reunion shows reek of money grabs. Not this one though. I’m pretty sure both these guys just wanna play their songs live.
thegame
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Is a money ploy actually different than a money grab?
https://blabbermouth.net/news/alex-...JCS0NNiL09tmxjR9aQ_aem_TsAWj5lj6NLOaIxXtYeL2w
rsm
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is the new Rush playing any free shows, you know for the fans who made them who they are?
Reminds me of the Stones; they did well financially, but haven't done a free concert since 1969. At least The Who did a charity show for free in 2002.
Sure there are costs for the production, crew, travel, equipment, room and board, but you know the "stars" are not breaking even or losing money.
Let's not for forget U2, who could fund a few third-world countries on the cost of their live stage.
Not a dig at only Rush, but most of these successful bands that made bank before the internet / content sharing, are businesses not charities.
Even Dream Theater ticket prices are getting crazy, I passed on their most recent tour because it would cost several hundred $ per person just to be in room surrounded by phones bouncing in the air blocking my view.
It may not be a money grab but it's also not a money loss.
The last band I saw live was Polyphia in 2024, I think I paid around $25 per ticket, plus the ticketmasterbator fees.
bah humbug
Reminds me of the Stones; they did well financially, but haven't done a free concert since 1969. At least The Who did a charity show for free in 2002.
Sure there are costs for the production, crew, travel, equipment, room and board, but you know the "stars" are not breaking even or losing money.
Let's not for forget U2, who could fund a few third-world countries on the cost of their live stage.
Not a dig at only Rush, but most of these successful bands that made bank before the internet / content sharing, are businesses not charities.
Even Dream Theater ticket prices are getting crazy, I passed on their most recent tour because it would cost several hundred $ per person just to be in room surrounded by phones bouncing in the air blocking my view.
It may not be a money grab but it's also not a money loss.
The last band I saw live was Polyphia in 2024, I think I paid around $25 per ticket, plus the ticketmasterbator fees.
bah humbug
Floyd Eye
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People change their minds.
How much do you figure it would cost Alex and Geddy to put on “free shows” ? Not future revenue, out of pocket just to make it happen ?
Their road crew, those guys would be willing to work for free too probably.
How much do you figure it would cost Alex and Geddy to put on “free shows” ? Not future revenue, out of pocket just to make it happen ?
Their road crew, those guys would be willing to work for free too probably.
Rick Lee
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I'm wondering how much say the band and their mgt have in ticket prices. Obviously, scalpers and bots are what ruin the ticket buying experience for everyone. You can't blame the band for that. They're not going to see any of that add-on price.
rsm
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People change their minds.
How much do you figure it would cost Alex and Geddy to put on “free shows” ? Not future revenue, out of pocket just to make it happen ?
Their road crew, those guys would be willing to work for free too probably.
depends on the size, venue, etc. they could even build the costs for a free show into the current tour but that would cut into their profits. Add a free concert night before or after an existing paid show in the same location would reduce costs.
I'm not saying they should do free shows, they don't because they'd lose money, but they don't do shows to break even or lose money, so profit is a key factor no matter how much they say they miss playing live together, it's for the fans, etc. that's bullshit, if it was for playing together and the fans, they would reflect it in the ticket prices.
My point is these successful artists are not losing money or breaking even, and we don't know what their profit margins or touring costs are, but there are ways to reduce costs if they wanted to do it that way to make money while giving back to fans, many that are probably living on social security.
If they're spending money on a live stage experience like they had in their heyday then the costs are more, and that's in the ticket prices. Part of the live experience is the stage show (e.g., Kiss), but for fans of these bands that are past their glory days that are there for the live music, the costs could be reduced.
No secret I like Kiss; if they did a tour without their massive stage show, costumes, makeup, etc., it would cost less than their big stage shows, they could reflect this in the ticket prices while still making their required profit margin. Bad example maybe because the stage show is a big part of their live experience that many fans expect.
Like I said, it may not be a money grab, but it's not a money loss or break even either. I think many of these bands could do tours more economically, meet/exceed their profit margins and have lower ticket prices.
rsm
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The bands know their costs, and what they need to charge to cover those costs per show, cover their touring expenses and meet their minimum profit margins.
If a band determines they need $100 minimum per seat to meet their financial requirements including profits, they could use many different models.. charge $100 for nosebleeds, $200 for average middle seats, $500 for prime seats, and add $1000 for a meet and greet, making more than the bottom line costs if the show is 80% or more sold out in all categories. Whatever fees the ticket vendor charges are not up to the band, the band still gets it's agreed money per ticket,
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Nigel
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You know, USA pennies used to say "Mind Your Business" on the back for a reason.
RaceU4her
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i understand wanting to play live, but cant they do that in smaller venues as solo artist, or "Alex and Geddy", or as PanterA should have done, start a new band with capable musicians where they can do an extended "tribute" set every night to scratch that itch if it wasnt really about money??
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harddriver
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They may very well just want to get out there and play again and good for them. Is she the best drummer they could find?.....I don't know but I'm not sure she is up to Neil Peart's standards, I could be wrong I don't know much about her.
Those prices for tickets are kind of a Fuck You to the fans though.
Those prices for tickets are kind of a Fuck You to the fans though.
