2011 NY Amp show...big waste of time.

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danyeo":2xkraxft said:
I'm glad i didn't hear the Triptick because i don't have a spare 3k on me. I'm also glad i got to hear the Axe-Fx 2.........because i know now i don't want one.
Thats the price for the 50 watter. I never got the price for the 100 watter. I will be really checking into this amp with Alan.
 
The Axe FX II sounded exactly the same as the Ultra that was there last year. Did it sound good for a modeler? Definitely. Was it missing the punch of a real tube amp? Absolutely.
 
After hearing about last years show I wanted to go so I went today. There were many missing vendors from last yr that I would have liked to see. Freidman was on the list but wasn't there an I had thought Cameron ccv was supposed to be there but I suppose they weren't finished yet. Not many high gain amps but I still had a good time. I liked Kauer guitars which played an looked great an dude was cool, got to hear metroupolis plexis an satellite amps
 
psychodave":3qi8rbbs said:
danyeo":3qi8rbbs said:
I'm also glad i got to hear the Axe-Fx 2.........because i know now i don't want one.

I wish the axe-fx II sounded better...this way I could score an Ultra for cheap. Once people start getting the II's and start comparing, the word will be out that the Ultras sound just as good. I feel bad for the suckers that sold off their Ultras for big losses...nah I really don't. :lol: :LOL:

It would have sounded better through a tube power amp into a 4x12. That FRFR setup is nonsense IMHO. My guitar sounded pretty thin through that setup.

In fact Dave, when i had the Axe-Fx standard on a Mesa 2:90 into a Marshall 4x12............that setup destroyed the Axe-2 using FRFR. I say if you see a cheap standard then it might be something fun to mess around with.
 
BYTOR":xwmb2m1z said:
psychodave":xwmb2m1z said:
Just got back from the NY Amp show. What a waste of time. The only thing I liked was the high gain Carol Ann amp. It ripped though a 1x12. Alan is a cool dude too :thumbsup:

Saw, heard and played the Axe-fx II. It's was just plain okay to me. Nothing special :lol: :LOL: Some great effects, but not worth $2,200...IMHO after playing it. I prefer tubes ;)

That's it! :confused:


So 99% of all the tube amps at the show were just Blah to you. And i'm sure you are just great at dialing in tones on the Axe Fx. :lol: :LOL:
You sound like the go to guy for tone advice. :thumbsup:

Do you need a hug?
 
Hey guys some more info on the Triptik he had a 1-12 there because he had to ship down to the show, it sounds huge thru a 4-12 and there is plenty of bite and cut (the 1-12 has an EV, a celestion would be much brighter) also all of Alan's amps have the huge 3D thing going on but sit really well in the mix, I use one every weekend and it always sounds great. The clips I did of that amp on the site are pretty heavy and cutting. Glad to see some RT'ers getting into one of the finest amp builders on the planet ! I can also attest the build quality is second to none. The clean channel is also stunning and having switchable masters is really cool for solo's.
 
Wow. I'm glad I didn't go. I knew Voodoo wasn't going, but I didn't know there were others opting out.
 
Did anyone check out the 3 Monkeys booth?? THey have a new amp coming out too..."The Virgil" that should be pretty nice. There is currently an Orangutan at my local shop that is just bitchin!! These guys are local to me so I know it was a pretty good trek to Jersey for them to go...hopefully it was worth it.

On the Carol Ann, wow I bet Dave and Paul probably freeked some guys out and had them scrambling for the doors!! LOL Most Carol Ann owners are into quite a different tone and style than those 2 guys!! LOL I wanna say its the OD2 that is generally accepted as one of the best Dumble type amps out there...I would LOVE to snag one as I love the sound JB is getting out of them, but I cant swing the bucks on an amp right now...maybe next year.
I live this clip...
Very different than what most guys expect from them!! LOL especially when you consider these clips from my local shop as being what most expect from Carol Ann http://www.fatsoundguitars.com/store/pl ... height=410

65 amps had a more high gain, 3 channel switcher out now too called the Empire that is worth looking into also. If any of you guys have been tuning into his wednesday live broadcast on the web...it sounds VERY good.
 
RedRider":1b5nv3yr said:
Did anyone check out the 3 Monkeys booth?? THey have a new amp coming out too..."The Virgil" that should be pretty nice. There is currently an Orangutan at my local shop that is just bitchin!! These guys are local to me so I know it was a pretty good trek to Jersey for them to go...hopefully it was worth it.

On the Carol Ann, wow I bet Dave and Paul probably freeked some guys out and had them scrambling for the doors!! LOL Most Carol Ann owners are into quite a different tone and style than those 2 guys!! LOL I wanna say its the OD2 that is generally accepted as one of the best Dumble type amps out there...I would LOVE to snag one as I love the sound JB is getting out of them, but I cant swing the bucks on an amp right now...maybe next year.
I live this clip...
Very different than what most guys expect from them!! LOL especially when you consider these clips from my local shop as being what most expect from Carol Ann http://www.fatsoundguitars.com/store/pl ... height=410

65 amps had a more high gain, 3 channel switcher out now too called the Empire that is worth looking into also. If any of you guys have been tuning into his wednesday live broadcast on the web...it sounds VERY good.

You just nailed the problem with CA, he has been tagged with the worst possible reference you could get outside of TGP..................DUMBLE. There are way more rockers out there than RF fans and Alan's stuff fits perfect for rock and the killer clean is the icing. But then again those guys do have the cash so it is not a total loss.

Plus from what I have read the CA stuff is Alan's design and take while 90% of the dumble knockoffs are complete copies of various dumble amps. High price point Nic amps :lol: :LOL:
 
Cool I did that clip glad you like it, my CA's do NOT sound like any dumble and certainly not anything RF would use that would make me vomit and probably Alan as well. My taste's are all in the modern/heavy rock vein. He is coming way more from the Marshall camp than Dumble. He modded my 73 Marshall and it rocks, to my ears was better than my Friedman modded JCM800 (I totally dig Dave's work tho). I would imagine the Triptik will change the Dumble perception and I am glad to see some Rig Talkers dug the new amp. He also gigs every weekend so all of his stuff is build/designed around the studio/live concept with dual masters, tone that sits well in the mix and bullet proof build quality as well as amazing cleans.
 
I played Amplifires OD2R and i thought it's lead tone reminded me a little of a Mesa IIC+. Sweet and singing sustain, but still had it's own thing going on.
 
thegame":1g3l4lnc said:
Someone mentioned 65 amps. Doesn't this link seem a little misleading ?

http://www.65amps.com/main.html

Maybe its just me ?
LOL...I kinda thought the VH symbol with the 65 in it instead of VH was funny myself. Dan is a great guy and I am sure he is not trying to mislead anyone...not sure how he is doing that with that page??? Unless you were trying to say he supplies amps to someone he doesnt??? Not Sure, but if you go check out some of his new amps you will see that things have changed there as far as the amps tone they are producing...as have a BUNCH of the smaller builders...
 
thegame":1pwqmoo1 said:
Someone mentioned 65 amps. Doesn't this link seem a little misleading ?

http://www.65amps.com/main.html

Maybe its just me ?


I think they'd better be careful. If someone's bored and is friends with a good lawyer you never know. People have been sued for less than that.
 
RedRider":3l0mi15s said:
thegame":3l0mi15s said:
Someone mentioned 65 amps. Doesn't this link seem a little misleading ?

http://www.65amps.com/main.html

Maybe its just me ?
Unless you were trying to say he supplies amps to someone he doesnt???

No not really. The altered album graphics look cool but the statement "The unmistakable sound of a generation" is kinda implying 65 amps were used on those classic recordings IMO.
 
thegame":cczof13u said:
RedRider":cczof13u said:
thegame":cczof13u said:
Someone mentioned 65 amps. Doesn't this link seem a little misleading ?

http://www.65amps.com/main.html

Maybe its just me ?
Unless you were trying to say he supplies amps to someone he doesnt???

No not really. The altered album graphics look cool but the statement "The unmistakable sound of a generation" is kinda implying 65 amps were used on those classic recordings IMO.


Ahhh yeah...I get what you are saying now...for sure...I could see someone getting that...its a great tag line, however combined with the page graphics I could see it being taken in that way...
 
Digital Jams":320ek9nn said:
RedRider":320ek9nn said:
Did anyone check out the 3 Monkeys booth?? THey have a new amp coming out too..."The Virgil" that should be pretty nice. There is currently an Orangutan at my local shop that is just bitchin!! These guys are local to me so I know it was a pretty good trek to Jersey for them to go...hopefully it was worth it.

On the Carol Ann, wow I bet Dave and Paul probably freeked some guys out and had them scrambling for the doors!! LOL Most Carol Ann owners are into quite a different tone and style than those 2 guys!! LOL I wanna say its the OD2 that is generally accepted as one of the best Dumble type amps out there...I would LOVE to snag one as I love the sound JB is getting out of them, but I cant swing the bucks on an amp right now...maybe next year.
I live this clip...
Very different than what most guys expect from them!! LOL especially when you consider these clips from my local shop as being what most expect from Carol Ann http://www.fatsoundguitars.com/store/pl ... height=410

65 amps had a more high gain, 3 channel switcher out now too called the Empire that is worth looking into also. If any of you guys have been tuning into his wednesday live broadcast on the web...it sounds VERY good.

You just nailed the problem with CA, he has been tagged with the worst possible reference you could get outside of TGP..................DUMBLE. There are way more rockers out there than RF fans and Alan's stuff fits perfect for rock and the killer clean is the icing. But then again those guys do have the cash so it is not a total loss.

Plus from what I have read the CA stuff is Alan's design and take while 90% of the dumble knockoffs are complete copies of various dumble amps. High price point Nic amps :lol: :LOL:


Oh dude...thank you thank you !! Seriously......I have been banging my head against a wall with that one for several years now.
Sure the OD2 will get you that fusion thing if you want it, but it can do more, a lot more. I don't even like Robben Fords tone........I'm a massive Gary Moore fan, I come from Marshalls. I've owned over 50 of them. Sure I understand dumbles and have worked on them, what I took away from those is his effective use of less gain stages.

The Triptik is a new concept in the higher gain arena, because it doesn't use 6 or 7 gain stages nor do it use solid state diode/LED/weird NOS transistor....(add what you want) clipping. It's an original approach to high gain and has no connection to Dumble except the concept of running every stage to it's limit (almost to the point of instability actually). One of the major positives is the fact you get a ridiculously good clean channel, something from experience nearly all rock amps fall short of. So we will have to see if the combination of complex harmonics coupled with low noise and an extended dynamic range really fairs in a marketplace laden with high gain / high compression / high noise floors and so-so clean channels. It might work.....I hope so. Then again, it might not. The response at the amp Show was very positive and the amp was liked by not only high gain guys, but a whole myriad of different players.
One thing I will say is I don't build amps that cover anything up, if you play shite, it will sound shite. You can't flay a passage of a million fluubbed notes in order to look flash and rely on compressed mush to save you, the amp will just kick you in the bollocks and make you look stupid. So thats the disclaimer with my version of high gain. Be prepared to practice to get the best out of it.
 
Carol-AnnAmps":1wysj279 said:
Digital Jams":1wysj279 said:
RedRider":1wysj279 said:
Did anyone check out the 3 Monkeys booth?? THey have a new amp coming out too..."The Virgil" that should be pretty nice. There is currently an Orangutan at my local shop that is just bitchin!! These guys are local to me so I know it was a pretty good trek to Jersey for them to go...hopefully it was worth it.

On the Carol Ann, wow I bet Dave and Paul probably freeked some guys out and had them scrambling for the doors!! LOL Most Carol Ann owners are into quite a different tone and style than those 2 guys!! LOL I wanna say its the OD2 that is generally accepted as one of the best Dumble type amps out there...I would LOVE to snag one as I love the sound JB is getting out of them, but I cant swing the bucks on an amp right now...maybe next year.
I live this clip...
Very different than what most guys expect from them!! LOL especially when you consider these clips from my local shop as being what most expect from Carol Ann http://www.fatsoundguitars.com/store/pl ... height=410

65 amps had a more high gain, 3 channel switcher out now too called the Empire that is worth looking into also. If any of you guys have been tuning into his wednesday live broadcast on the web...it sounds VERY good.

You just nailed the problem with CA, he has been tagged with the worst possible reference you could get outside of TGP..................DUMBLE. There are way more rockers out there than RF fans and Alan's stuff fits perfect for rock and the killer clean is the icing. But then again those guys do have the cash so it is not a total loss.

Plus from what I have read the CA stuff is Alan's design and take while 90% of the dumble knockoffs are complete copies of various dumble amps. High price point Nic amps :lol: :LOL:


Oh dude...thank you thank you !! Seriously......I have been banging my head against a wall with that one for several years now.
Sure the OD2 will get you that fusion thing if you want it, but it can do more, a lot more. I don't even like Robben Fords tone........I'm a massive Gary Moore fan, I come from Marshalls. I've owned over 50 of them. Sure I understand dumbles and have worked on them, what I took away from those is his effective use of less gain stages.

The Triptik is a new concept in the higher gain arena, because it doesn't use 6 or 7 gain stages nor do it use solid state diode/LED/weird NOS transistor....(add what you want) clipping. It's an original approach to high gain and has no connection to Dumble except the concept of running every stage to it's limit (almost to the point of instability actually). One of the major positives is the fact you get a ridiculously good clean channel, something from experience nearly all rock amps fall short of. So we will have to see if the combination of complex harmonics coupled with low noise and an extended dynamic range really fairs in a marketplace laden with high gain / high compression / high noise floors and so-so clean channels. It might work.....I hope so. Then again, it might not. The response at the amp Show was very positive and the amp was liked by not only high gain guys, but a whole myriad of different players.
One thing I will say is I don't build amps that cover anything up, if you play shite, it will sound shite. You can't flay a passage of a million fluubbed notes in order to look flash and rely on compressed mush to save you, the amp will just kick you in the bollocks and make you look stupid. So thats the disclaimer with my version of high gain. Be prepared to practice to get the best out of it.


I can't wait to try one Alan :rock: :rock: :rock:
 
psychodave":20ce0xmy said:
Carol-AnnAmps":20ce0xmy said:
Digital Jams":20ce0xmy said:
RedRider":20ce0xmy said:
Did anyone check out the 3 Monkeys booth?? THey have a new amp coming out too..."The Virgil" that should be pretty nice. There is currently an Orangutan at my local shop that is just bitchin!! These guys are local to me so I know it was a pretty good trek to Jersey for them to go...hopefully it was worth it.

On the Carol Ann, wow I bet Dave and Paul probably freeked some guys out and had them scrambling for the doors!! LOL Most Carol Ann owners are into quite a different tone and style than those 2 guys!! LOL I wanna say its the OD2 that is generally accepted as one of the best Dumble type amps out there...I would LOVE to snag one as I love the sound JB is getting out of them, but I cant swing the bucks on an amp right now...maybe next year.
I live this clip...
Very different than what most guys expect from them!! LOL especially when you consider these clips from my local shop as being what most expect from Carol Ann http://www.fatsoundguitars.com/store/pl ... height=410

65 amps had a more high gain, 3 channel switcher out now too called the Empire that is worth looking into also. If any of you guys have been tuning into his wednesday live broadcast on the web...it sounds VERY good.

You just nailed the problem with CA, he has been tagged with the worst possible reference you could get outside of TGP..................DUMBLE. There are way more rockers out there than RF fans and Alan's stuff fits perfect for rock and the killer clean is the icing. But then again those guys do have the cash so it is not a total loss.

Plus from what I have read the CA stuff is Alan's design and take while 90% of the dumble knockoffs are complete copies of various dumble amps. High price point Nic amps :lol: :LOL:


Oh dude...thank you thank you !! Seriously......I have been banging my head against a wall with that one for several years now.
Sure the OD2 will get you that fusion thing if you want it, but it can do more, a lot more. I don't even like Robben Fords tone........I'm a massive Gary Moore fan, I come from Marshalls. I've owned over 50 of them. Sure I understand dumbles and have worked on them, what I took away from those is his effective use of less gain stages.

The Triptik is a new concept in the higher gain arena, because it doesn't use 6 or 7 gain stages nor do it use solid state diode/LED/weird NOS transistor....(add what you want) clipping. It's an original approach to high gain and has no connection to Dumble except the concept of running every stage to it's limit (almost to the point of instability actually). One of the major positives is the fact you get a ridiculously good clean channel, something from experience nearly all rock amps fall short of. So we will have to see if the combination of complex harmonics coupled with low noise and an extended dynamic range really fairs in a marketplace laden with high gain / high compression / high noise floors and so-so clean channels. It might work.....I hope so. Then again, it might not. The response at the amp Show was very positive and the amp was liked by not only high gain guys, but a whole myriad of different players.
One thing I will say is I don't build amps that cover anything up, if you play shite, it will sound shite. You can't flay a passage of a million fluubbed notes in order to look flash and rely on compressed mush to save you, the amp will just kick you in the bollocks and make you look stupid. So thats the disclaimer with my version of high gain. Be prepared to practice to get the best out of it.


Like I said before, I really liked the Triptik a lot (I was the idiot with the Les Paul playing badly on Saturday afternoon :lol: :LOL: ). I wanted to hear it with a 4x12 and considered coming back on Sunday with one of my cabs. :D



Sooooo, as a CCV owner what did you think of the Axe-2 sim? Did it NAIL your amp? :D
 
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