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[glip22]

The Shiva also has an excellent clean channel.

 

[Greazygeo]

well, it will just be for my own enjoyment in my home studio. I hear what you are saying about volume, so the wizard & slo have to be cranked high to get it to sound good, had the same problems when i had my plexis, than started to use boogie mark 2's back in the day when i was touring. That db's level will cause problem, hhmm. The Einstein clips sounds good coming through the p.c. speakers,but its not the same if you can be in the same room as the amp is being played its not really true. Its unfortunate no shops in my neck of the woods have any of these amps. Wow supersonic your no to deizel, could you please explain ?

Wizards don't need cranked to get the goods, they do have the ability to get loud. All tube amps need to be at a certain volume to get the goods.

 

[johnnyjellybean]

well, it will just be for my own enjoyment in my home studio. I hear what you are saying about volume, so the wizard & slo have to be cranked high to get it to sound good, had the same problems when i had my plexis, than started to use boogie mark 2's back in the day when i was touring. That db's level will cause problem, hhmm. The Einstein clips sounds good coming through the p.c. speakers,but its not the same if you can be in the same room as the amp is being played its not really true. Its unfortunate no shops in my neck of the woods have any of these amps. Wow supersonic your no to deizel, could you please explain ?

The wizard doesn't have to be cranked to a get a great tone. Not at all but they get very loud pretty quickly so it just depends on what you think loud is. Also there is nothing better than an amp that sounds great at low volumes and only gets better the louder you get it. No matter what brand you pick.

Ok I'm going to get flamed for this but Fuck it. The Wizard sounds great, but the engineering of the amp leaves allot to be desired. Unless things have drastically changed(which they may have thanks to Jerry P and myself, a couple of others followed) the amp has issues period. The main thing is for a high gain amp it is grounded completely wrong! I speak the truth and others are aware of it. Like I said it may have been changed but I spent 47000 bucks on mine and sold it for 2500.00. Period point blank the amp was built fucked up. Take it to the fuckin bank. Get the Bogner.

Yours had issues because you screwed with it by mucking with the bias and changing tubes and who knows what else. If I were you I wouldn't go there because we'll get TTosh & Hacksaw to finally come out and say the truth as to what went on when you bought that head. I would leave sleeping dogs lie if I were you. The only one who stands to lose face is you if you bring this up again is you.

Yes Steve, The dogs may sleep. I had some of my troubles because a tube must have been damaged during shipping. When I first got it, I fired it up and within one minute of taking it off of stanby the tube arcd and shot a voltage spike right through the 8 amp mains fuse and took out the OT. Shit happens. All I did was plug the amp in. I should have tested the tubes first before I plugged it up. I usually do that but was overly excited. I'm sure that's what caused my issues, even after it was fixed.

Here we go again. 1st of all that's not your original story. You originally said said the amp was DOA thanks to Fed Ex. Both Ttosh and Hacksaw told me that you had dialogue with them for a few days talking about how you were trying different power tubes and messing with the bias. You did all that "within a minute" huh? More than likely you probably inserted the speaker cable in the wrong spot while the head was out of it's shell and upsidedsown. What ever it was it didn't happen the way you say. They even kept emails etc. so if I were you I'd watch what you say. I am saying outright that you are NOT telling it like it is and I am saying it in a polite way so if you want to continue, we'll get the others in here because I am tired of hearing stories. Be warned.

 

[glip22]

One of the new Wizards would probably be great also.

 

[thiswaythatway]

well, it will just be for my own enjoyment in my home studio. I hear what you are saying about volume, so the wizard & slo have to be cranked high to get it to sound good, had the same problems when i had my plexis, than started to use boogie mark 2's back in the day when i was touring. That db's level will cause problem, hhmm. The Einstein clips sounds good coming through the p.c. speakers,but its not the same if you can be in the same room as the amp is being played its not really true. Its unfortunate no shops in my neck of the woods have any of these amps. Wow supersonic your no to deizel, could you please explain ?

Wizards don't need cranked to get the goods, they do have the ability to get loud. All tube amps need to be at a certain volume to get the goods.

I remember a friend of mine was using a Wizard in the mid 90's when they were pretty new and unknown. He was using a Wizard head on a 2x12 in small bars and he was getting great tones and he was getting by at medium volumes. The first time i heard it, it had THAT sound. Like a really good warm crunchy Marshall.

 

[johnnyjellybean]

well, it will just be for my own enjoyment in my home studio. I hear what you are saying about volume, so the wizard & slo have to be cranked high to get it to sound good, had the same problems when i had my plexis, than started to use boogie mark 2's back in the day when i was touring. That db's level will cause problem, hhmm. The Einstein clips sounds good coming through the p.c. speakers,but its not the same if you can be in the same room as the amp is being played its not really true. Its unfortunate no shops in my neck of the woods have any of these amps. Wow supersonic your no to deizel, could you please explain ?

The wizard doesn't have to be cranked to a get a great tone. Not at all but they get very loud pretty quickly so it just depends on what you think loud is. Also there is nothing better than an amp that sounds great at low volumes and only gets better the louder you get it. No matter what brand you pick.

Ok I'm going to get flamed for this but Fuck it. The Wizard sounds great, but the engineering of the amp leaves allot to be desired. Unless things have drastically changed(which they may have thanks to Jerry P and myself, a couple of others followed) the amp has issues period. The main thing is for a high gain amp it is grounded completely wrong! I speak the truth and others are aware of it. Like I said it may have been changed but I spent 47000 bucks on mine and sold it for 2500.00. Period point blank the amp was built fucked up. Take it to the fuckin bank. Get the Bogner.

Yours had issues because you screwed with it by mucking with the bias and changing tubes and who knows what else. If I were you I wouldn't go there because we'll get TTosh & Hacksaw to finally come out and say the truth as to what went on when you bought that head. I would leave sleeping dogs lie if I were you. The only one who stands to lose face is you if you bring this up again is you.

Yes Steve, The dogs may sleep. I had some of my troubles because a tube must have been damaged during shipping. When I first got it, I fired it up and within one minute of taking it off of stanby the tube arcd and shot a voltage spike right through the 8 amp mains fuse and took out the OT. Shit happens. All I did was plug the amp in. I should have tested the tubes first before I plugged it up. I usually do that but was overly excited. I'm sure that's what caused my issues, even after it was fixed.

Here we go again. 1st of all that's not your original story. You originally said said the amp was DOA thanks to Fed Ex. Both Ttosh and Hacksaw told me that you had dialogue with them for a few days talking about how you were trying different power tubes and messing with the bias. You did all that "within a minute" huh? More than likely you probably inserted the speaker cable in the wrong spot while the head was out of it's shell and upsidedsown. What ever it was it didn't happen the way you say. They even kept emails etc. so if I were you I'd watch what you say. I am saying outright that you are NOT telling it like it is and I am saying it in a polite way so if you want to continue, we'll get the others in here because I am tired of hearing stories. Be warned.

That's not what happened but all is cool Steve. It wasn't DOA. Honestly, I didn't try tubes, etc. I unboxed the amp, fired it up and goodbye OT. My first emails to Tim were asking him why there was an 8 amp fuse in the mains. You have my word on that. Tim and I have become cool a good while ago and communicate often. Back to the OP. My issues with the MC I had are not everyones views obviously. Only a small few. With that said it all depends on what you are after. The Wizard is very different. A very raw huge tone with allot of complexity and texture in it's voice. Definitely a great modded Marshall. It has been unequalled in the amp's I have had and tried as far as "Punch" goes. It has that hit you in the gut power. Depends on what you are after. If you want a monster get a Wizard. If you want more sublety get the Shiva 20th, Ecstacy 20th or a Cornford MK50 II since you need cleans. All killer amps.

All is NOT cool because you told me personally that it was DOA and that is just the start. I'll let the other guys do the talking from here.

 

[Hollywood]

I cast my vote for the Wizard modern classic 100 also.
I own one currently, and it will never leave here.
There is a pureness of tone that comes from the Wizard that you will not get from any other amp out there. Steve/Johnnyjellybean has built an amp [PlexiPlus] that is the only amp,
I know of that exists that get really close in delivering this.
If you have never played the Wizard then Steve's amps would be the next choice for me.
The amps I am speaking about are hand built and both can get very loud very quickly.
I had two Wizards at one time but did have an issue with one.
It was sent back and Wizard fixed it.
Nothing out of the ordinary about this ,as no amp out there will be perfect ,
100 percent of the time. Right now there a couple of Wizards for sale and at the reduced costs they are going for you can't go wrong. Or check with Steve on availability for one of his amps. I own or have owned almost everything on earth, and there are still alot out there to experience.
Even a few amps that I thought during the Honeymoon phase were from another planet. Alot of the Cameron amps I have, or have owned were that awesome.
But the two amps I list in this post are for what you are asking about the two amps that made me smile like I was shooting a white teeth commercial.

 

[mentoneman]

i lean towards warmer fatter crunch over laser beam metal;

the PWE clips on fat sound site = heavenly. cork sniffy gives two thumbs up.

PT 100 played by the man himself sounded both redonkeylus and scrumtrulescent in person. that's a good thing.

if you want the menacing death ray that sweeps to and fro and vaporizes all in it's swath, go herbie.

 

[ttosh]

This was my amp before Gary's and I truly think something got messed up in shipping or some type of accident happened that Gary was unaware of on his side. I only say this and it is not a dig at Gary he seems like a great guy, but the amp before I shipped it was a complete Monster. I would rate it up there with one of the best amps I have owned. We played weekly and played loud for quite some time and nobody heard any ghost notes or lack of tone, but just pure raw Marshall Goodness with more percussive feel and intensity than any Marshall I have ever played. The other guitarist Hacksaw on this board his name is Rik will agree this amp had nothing wrong with it coming from Wizard. I have owned to Wizards a 100w this one and a 50w as well. I liked the headroom and percussive low end the 100w gave, but both were excellent amps and built great IMHO. Are they worth what is asked of them? Not many amps out there are again IMHO. As far as selling for that much less I see Diezels, Bogners, Wizards, etc.. all taking a pretty good hit on price anymore as the economy is hurting the sales of most amps.

Had to put my .02 in here, like I said this is not against Gary, I had to back Wizard up here however because the amp was great when I received it and still great when it was put in the box to ship.

To the OP if you want a clean channel or pristine clean tone the Wizard is not the amp for you. The Diezel or Bogner would be your best bet and both have their own very distinct voicing so playing one would be best IMHO!!

well, it will just be for my own enjoyment in my home studio. I hear what you are saying about volume, so the wizard & slo have to be cranked high to get it to sound good, had the same problems when i had my plexis, than started to use boogie mark 2's back in the day when i was touring. That db's level will cause problem, hhmm. The Einstein clips sounds good coming through the p.c. speakers,but its not the same if you can be in the same room as the amp is being played its not really true. Its unfortunate no shops in my neck of the woods have any of these amps. Wow supersonic your no to deizel, could you please explain ?

The wizard doesn't have to be cranked to a get a great tone. Not at all but they get very loud pretty quickly so it just depends on what you think loud is. Also there is nothing better than an amp that sounds great at low volumes and only gets better the louder you get it. No matter what brand you pick.

Ok I'm going to get flamed for this but Fuck it. The Wizard sounds great, but the engineering of the amp leaves allot to be desired. Unless things have drastically changed(which they may have thanks to Jerry P and myself, a couple of others followed) the amp has issues period. The main thing is for a high gain amp it is grounded completely wrong! I speak the truth and others are aware of it. Like I said it may have been changed but I spent 47000 bucks on mine and sold it for 2500.00. Period point blank the amp was built fucked up. Take it to the fuckin bank. Get the Bogner.

 

[joolzriff]

i wouldnt go by that SLO(george lynch amp) tone on that video posted above,mine sounds ALOT better than that,edgier and not wooly & muffled....
if volume is an issue i'd go solid state but a nice one,try the AXE fx or the new german direct guitar thinggy coming out soon(cant remember the name).....play em at home and record w/ it direct....who wants to mic stuff/not me....

 

[pstar]

JOHNYJELLYBEAN, please stay on topic, what is your relationship to Glip22 and to Wizard amps ?

 

[pstar]

GLIP22, did u buy that wizard new? another forumite says he shipped to u?? am confused here. I' would luv to buy an brand new amp from manufacturer ! than there is a warrenty, buying used, well you never know if the amp was abused and i don't mean operating/servicing methods, other things been dropped, drinks spilled on it, left outside in the truck in very cold weather for hours or days, etc., BUT some of these used pricing is enticing, but when your dealing on someone's good faith that you have never met and 1,000's of miles away, caution needs to be taken

 

[johnnyjellybean]

JOHNYJELLYBEAN, please stay on topic, what is your relationship to Glip22 and to Wizard amps ?

I'm VERY much on topic with what was said before I came in and commented. I am the moderator on the Wizard board here and I demo Wizard amps at the shows and as far as Glip22 is concerned, the only "relationship" I have to him is I'm going to set this straight once and for all. Hacksaw will be here a little later to elaborate.

 

[King Guitar]

JOHNYJELLYBEAN, please stay on topic, what is your relationship to Glip22 and to Wizard amps ?

pstar, your a new guy round these parts and thats cool but you might want to get to know everyone before you start telling people what to do. Steve (Johnyjellybean) has been inducted int the Canadian Music Hall of Fame for his guitar work with April WIne and is a Wizard endorsee and the moderator of the Wizard Sub Forum. Not too many people in the world more qualified to educate on Wizard amps.

Brad

 

[ttosh]

GLIP22, did u buy that wizard new? another forumite says he shipped to u?? am confused here. I' would luv to buy an brand new amp from manufacturer ! than there is a warrenty, buying used, well you never know if the amp was abused and i don't mean operating/servicing methods, other things been dropped, drinks spilled on it, left outside in the truck in very cold weather for hours or days, etc., BUT some of these used pricing is enticing, but when your dealing on someone's good faith that you have never met and 1,000's of miles away, caution needs to be taken

Staying on topic would be to answer the original posters question, your last two posts are as off topic as what you stated. Just sayin........

I posted above the amp was new to me and used to Gary. The amp was perfect when shipped and rocked out like a Wizard should and would! I am not sure what happened in shipping or after Gary got the amp. I like Gary and he and I have not had any issues. I do however want to make it clear that Rik and Wizard amps IMHO has always made a top quality amp and for that tone it is pretty much impossible to beat. Tone is subjective however build quality is not!

 

[pstar]

tosh thanks for clarification, confusion, But lets get back to topic on the above amps we were chatting about.

 

[pstar]

king, am not telling any one what to do, am just listening to comments than some disagreement starts! id u read my previous posts i say no offence or defence to anyone, and no disrespect to anyone here. i did not start no argument.

 

[King Guitar]

king, am not telling any one what to do, am just listening to comments than some disagreement starts! id u read my previous posts i say no offence or defence to anyone, and no disrespect to anyone here. i did not start no argument.

no worries brother, just trying to help you out. you will be hard pressed to find one amp that does everything you want, if you can you are miles ahead of most of us here. For what you say you want I would think a Bogner 20th Anniversary Shiva is probably the ticket for you. That said it is so subjective and usually you end up wanting more.

 

[glip22]

Dogs lie from here on

 

[johnnyjellybean]

JOHNYJELLYBEAN, please stay on topic, what is your relationship to Glip22 and to Wizard amps ?

I'm VERY much on topic with what was said before I came in and commented. I am the moderator on the Wizard board here and I demo Wizard amps at the shows and as far as Glip22 is concerned, the only "relationship" I have to him is I'm going to set this straight once and for all. Hacksaw will be here a little later to elaborate.

Hacksaw should stay out of it. He has no idea what occurred. I let you have the last word Steve so just let it die. I have also been asked to do this and I am fine with it. I'm entitled to my opinion and my experience. If I choose to share it with another member that is my business to do so. My experience was not isolated and the only negative experience. I know of others. Leave it at that.

Hacksaw knows EXACTLY what happened having read emails and being there when you were talking to Tim and such. You are lucky TTosh is as diplomatic as he is. Point is I know for a FACT that the story changed since I heard it straight from you that the amp was DOA. If push came to shove, I'm sure TTosh would collaborate that you said the same thing to him. In any case, I won't ask Rik to come on at this point but as I said before you should let sleeping dogs lie because there are at least a couple guys here that will attest to different circumstances.