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itsme
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I only run mono as I’m not bringing a stereo rig to the places we’re playing. I use an Eventide H9 solely for micro pitch. Works great, but I also have the Boss PS6 and it sounds just as good
Stradazone
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I previously used the HX Stomp and now currently Helix floor for micro pitch both work pretty well
SoooRad
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I had the Micropitch twice, but ultimately prefer the SDE-3 pedal for that vibe. Easy to use and sounds awesome.
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brunocormack
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Since you run mono 99% of the time and basically just want tap tempo and a great repeat, you're paying a huge real-estate and complexity tax on the SDE3000 for zero benefit. Everything you actually use it for, the Halo or SDE-3 will nail in a quarter of the space. The full WDW/dual-engine stuff is the only reason to keep the big box, and you've already said you never touch it.
On the DIG "first repeat is always loud and clear" thing — that's almost certainly the secondary-knob ghost setting Kelly mentioned, or the Mod/Smear-type voicing left at a clean setting. Before you write it off, do the hard reset and check whether it's set to the clean/clear voicing vs. the tape-ish one. A lot of people's "my DIG sounds too pristine on the first hit" complaints disappear once it's reset and the tone control is backed off. Would be a shame to wrestle with it for years when it might be one stuck parameter.
For the direct-in noise gate question on the EVH unit — yeah, that's exactly what it's for. Running guitar straight into the front lets its gate key off the dry signal before your dirt, so the delay trails decay cleanly instead of the gate chopping a dirty signal awkwardly. If you're only using it in the loop in mono, it's irrelevant to you, which is more evidence you don't need that pedal.
I'd sell the EVH, grab a Halo, keep the DIG (after a reset), and call it done. Mono tap-tempo delay with one great ambient option covered, way less board space.
On the DIG "first repeat is always loud and clear" thing — that's almost certainly the secondary-knob ghost setting Kelly mentioned, or the Mod/Smear-type voicing left at a clean setting. Before you write it off, do the hard reset and check whether it's set to the clean/clear voicing vs. the tape-ish one. A lot of people's "my DIG sounds too pristine on the first hit" complaints disappear once it's reset and the tone control is backed off. Would be a shame to wrestle with it for years when it might be one stuck parameter.
For the direct-in noise gate question on the EVH unit — yeah, that's exactly what it's for. Running guitar straight into the front lets its gate key off the dry signal before your dirt, so the delay trails decay cleanly instead of the gate chopping a dirty signal awkwardly. If you're only using it in the loop in mono, it's irrelevant to you, which is more evidence you don't need that pedal.
I'd sell the EVH, grab a Halo, keep the DIG (after a reset), and call it done. Mono tap-tempo delay with one great ambient option covered, way less board space.
crwnedblasphemy
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Good thread. I just sold my Micropitch. I had it next to my El Capistan in the loop. It was a pain to set parameters, and to my ear eventide stuff rolls off my top end a bit. I get it, that’s digital. But my El Capistan is still digital and just has this crispness that I like with little tone suck at all. The micropitch’s delay was fine, but just that. I haven’t tried the boss or the DIG, so can’t say about those.
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Drew
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Has anyone tried the Keely MS30 pedal?
LPMojoGL
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I had the El Cap, great pedal I'd have again.
The DIG has been my fav for years, worth checking out if you want a simple digital dual delay.
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EyesOfTheSouth!
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They ain’t fancy, but my favorites these days are the MP Deep Blue Delay and the One Control Sea Turquoise.
I still have the SDE-3 but it sits in its box. Just returned a Delay Llama last week and have owned DIG, El Cap, Nemesis, and DD-500. Also a pile of others. The Deep Blue and Turquoise do everything I need without jacking with my dry signal or adding high end artifacts I don’t care for.
I still have the SDE-3 but it sits in its box. Just returned a Delay Llama last week and have owned DIG, El Cap, Nemesis, and DD-500. Also a pile of others. The Deep Blue and Turquoise do everything I need without jacking with my dry signal or adding high end artifacts I don’t care for.
LPMojoGL
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I still want to try or build a Deep Blue. I thi knthats what @scottosan delay is based on. Always sounded good.
Intrigued by the Delay Llama. Not worth the $?
PDC
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I feel so 'low budge' in this thread - but I am continually impressed at how convincing the little, cheap Mooer Pitch Box is at copping the overall Van Hagar flavor/feel. I do have a really, really nice 1969 Metro with several tasteful mods that gets me most of the way there. I do use a U.A. Starlight Echo on the tape setting for a single quiet slap going into U.A. Golden Reverberator on the Plate Setting in the loop of the amp. These two together do a great job of copping that size and space that I hear in Ed's early sound. Punch in the Pitch Box set to Pitch Shift on -2 and all I can think of is F.U.C.K. / Balance.
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EyesOfTheSouth!
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The Llama is good........actually the 2nd time I bought it LOL. But analog delays always start to bug me after a while when placed in the loop. The degradation sounds cool at first, then I remember why I don't like it. I much prefer digital simulations of analog delay on most units I've tried.
Shask
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Not having analog dry through is why I dont look at the Eventide pedals.
SonVolt
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These sound best in parallel with delay and reverb anyway, so don't rule out a parallel line mixer.
crwnedblasphemy
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Probably correct.
if your mesa has a parallel loop, wonder how these sound then? Good insight
Shask
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Yeah, I have a parallel mixer with my rack stuff, but if I switched to pedals the goal would be simpler, lol. A pedalboard with a parallelizer would get complicated quickly.
Shask
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Probably correct.
Would probably sound good if you did kill dry. Where is gets weird is when you want to run more pedals and they end up being in series, while all being in parallel.
SonVolt
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Probably correct.
That would take care of the analog dry thru issue, but wouldn’t help with routing the effects themselves in parallel.
* velcro-fly *
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Eventide Tricerachorus will do that stuff. The Halo with an expression pedal to control the mix is awesome too. I have both of them on my board, happy with the results
BenoA
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So how do you set this up. detune before or after the delay?
LPMojoGL
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Guilty of repeat buys, myself!
Good to know about the Llama. Saved me from a future impulse splurge.
Same. I never gelled with the revered EHX Deluxe Memory Man, old or newer TT, with the desired MN3005s.
I do enjoy the new Boss DM-101, but only use it when I want that dark, lo-fi sound.
I much prefer the clearer sound of digital pedals, that aren't too crisp. Like the DIG, Boss DD2, Ibanez EM5 etc...
