Anyone using the Suno app?

[Solarflares]

Jesus Dan. You could just pretend you did it.
Then convince yourself you did do it.
Then move on to the next imaginary project.
No need to involve anyone or anything, or actually do anything.

 

[Solarflares]

That’s not a pro AI statement.
More a quote from my Procrastinator’s Bible.

 

[DanTravis62]

Jesus Dan. You could just pretend you did it.
Then convince yourself you did do it.
Then move on to the next imaginary project.
No need to involve anyone or anything, or actually do anything.

I can totally see AI being really useful for certain things especially mixing stuff, although i wouldnt ever use it

But especially in this case - for backing tracks - the sheer laziness is astounding

If you're just wanting to woodshed there are 5 trillion in every style, key, and tempo imaginable on youtube

And if you want something even more specific, why not just write some fucking music?

I feel like im taking crazy pills here

 

[BeZo]

The CEO basically said they're going to do really well because most musicians really don't enjoy making music

Yeah, fuck that guy.

"It's not really enjoyable to make music now… it takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don't enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music."

Joke's on him. I'm proud of my hard work.

 

[Solarflares]

Yeah, fuck that guy.

"It's not really enjoyable to make music now… it takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don't enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music."

Joke's on him. I'm proud of my hard work.

Yes it takes time and practice.
Maybe a lifetime.
We are musicians.
We knew that.
We have choice.
Any performance is of validity.
Parts of music making are not enjoyable sure, but some bits are a matter of huge joy.
Having made the personal choices, and a subsequent performance, that led to a joyous musical event - this cannot be replaced by anything.

 

[BeZo]

Yes it takes time and practice.
Maybe a lifetime.
We are musicians.
We knew that.
We have choice.
Parts of music making are not enjoyable sure, but some bits are a matter of huge joy.
Having made the personal choices, and a subsequent performance, that led to a joyous musical event - this cannot be replaced by anything.

I would even rather program MIDI for drums and synths than let AI give me backing tracks. The more I fuck with the MIDI editor in Reaper, the easier it gets. If I set it up with my little Akai keyboard, it's a snap. It's fun to find counter melodies and harmonies.

 

[Solarflares]

I would even rather program MIDI for drums and synths than let AI give me backing tracks. The more I fuck with the MIDI editor in Reaper, the easier it gets. If I set it up with my little Akai keyboard, it's a snap. It's fun to find counter melodies and harmonies.

I love to record tracks with basic drums. Then go in and change emphasis over vocals, like Keith Moon would do.
For a guitar solo, I want it to sound like me and the drummer have been playing together for years. Making drums fire off the guitar. Making it sound like guitar is firing off a drum lick. That sort of thing.
Then I go back and tweak drums all through, to get drama at key points
I do a complete level-sweep, looking for authenticity mainly.
Then the drums are sub-grouped and into production.
I might have to go back and do it all again, if the ideal sound doesn’t quite match the playing.
It’s great fun.

 

[cobrahead1030]

No.

The tools to make your own backing tracks are easier than they’ve ever been.

 

[DanTravis62]

No.

The tools to make your own backing tracks are easier than they’ve ever been.

Right? You don't even have to program midi anymore

There's a million drum programs that are stupidly easy to use, some of them free for god's sake

Not only that, there are apps that will play bass, keys, and even rhythm guitar if you are feeling too lazy to do that, too

It's so stupidly easy to make your own backing tracks that I thought this post was a troll at first

 

[thegame]

In the last 6 months or so, at work I’ve noticed the reliance on AI for even general email correspondence has gone through the roof. It’s all the same basic template. “Hi ___, thank you for reaching out about < insert basic reiteration of a key point from senders email >. I find your enquiry very meaningful. Lets circle back to this valuable idea during our next meeting where we can set ourselves up for success.”

Shoot…me…now…

 

[stephen sawall]

Been using it about a year.

 

[cobrahead1030]

No.

The tools to make your own backing tracks are easier than they’ve ever been.

More & more, I’ll use drag & drop drums to hash out an idea. Go back in and actually program something unique if it’s going somewhere.

Key parts, I usually do something simple on the piano roll. Might do the same for bass, or just pick up my 5 string and record a part.

 

[lol]

Can't spell AIDS without AI.

 

[DanTravis62]

More & more, I’ll use drag & drop drums to hash out an idea. Go back in and actually program something unique if it’s going somewhere.

Key parts, I usually do something simple on the piano roll. Might do the same for bass, or just pick up my 5 string and record a part.

Same, I use drag and drop as a writing tool - I'll have an idea for a riff, melody, something

I'll figure out the tempo and put a simple drag and drop drum groove behind it, and extend it out 64 bars or similar

Then I'll play the whole thing on repeat, to try out ideas to expand on the first riff, get in the head space of the tempo and what subdivisions and rhythmic affectations I can get away with

Then I record another riff or section of however many bars and repeat the process until I have 3-5 basic "sections"

Then I export the project to an mp3 and listen to it for a couple days and come up with ideas for how the structure should be based on how the different sections feel, and add changes, stops, etc - then I actually write a real midi file for the drums and rerecord it

In the OPs case though, if you're just making a simple backing track, the drag and drop drums would be more than good

 

[Solarflares]

Yeah right.
You haven’t lived, until you’ve heard some spaz wanking away over a blues shuffle, with the drum-loop from Rosanna!
Fucking internet. Kill them.

 

[JimAnsell2]

My friend keep sending me stuff he made on Suno saying he wants me to add some leads. These songs, sonically, sound pretty much perfect.
Its crazy how it gets the frequncies just right with the mix, that i will give it. I'd feel like a fraud if i used it to write songs though.
i'm not using ai for anything because i have a stubborn old brain.

 

[stratjacket]

Never used it and never will. Guitar and music in general are life long pursuits to me and something like Suno misses the whole point.

Kind of like the old adage when someone gives you money you don’t appreciate it as much as if you earned it yourself. The satisfaction is different. My music may have worts but they’re my worts.

 

[Solarflares]

My friend keep sending me stuff he made on Suno saying he wants me to add some leads. These songs, sonically, sound pretty much perfect.
Its crazy how it gets the frequncies just right with the mix, that i will give it. I'd feel like a fraud if i used it to write songs though.
i'm not using ai for anything because i have a stubborn old brain.

I’d give him a lead. Fucking Dignitas.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

I've used it for a female singer on my fully mixed, written by me song with my vocals. It nailed how I hear the female singer in my head.

 

[Solarflares]

I've used it for a female singer on my fully mixed, written by me song with my vocals. It nailed how I hear the female singer in my head.

Hey, if AI helps your transitioning, then I wouldn’t knock it.