hellzington
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Here's the link for y'all. I sped it up to where I actually start playing.
hellzington
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My takeaways from the first time playing it:
1. Lots of options... kind of crazy between all the switches and knobs
2. The purple channel is actually pretty useable, Reinhold did a great job with it
3. It's a noisy amp but not any noisier than my last one
4. The Density control isn't really super useful but it's cool to have the option
5. The EQ shift might be the coolest feature
6. The power section is absolutely different from the OG and the sweep of the knob is much more useable
7. As advertised, this Snorkler is more "modern" sounding than the OG
8. SO. MUCH. GAIN.
9. The switches do a lot more than advertised; they definitely affect the sound of other components downstream
10. It's still a nasty, spitty, pissed off amp with a ton of midrange and a lean low end, but the "spike" in the upper mids is less pronounced than the OG
1. Lots of options... kind of crazy between all the switches and knobs
2. The purple channel is actually pretty useable, Reinhold did a great job with it
3. It's a noisy amp but not any noisier than my last one
4. The Density control isn't really super useful but it's cool to have the option
5. The EQ shift might be the coolest feature
6. The power section is absolutely different from the OG and the sweep of the knob is much more useable
7. As advertised, this Snorkler is more "modern" sounding than the OG
8. SO. MUCH. GAIN.
9. The switches do a lot more than advertised; they definitely affect the sound of other components downstream
10. It's still a nasty, spitty, pissed off amp with a ton of midrange and a lean low end, but the "spike" in the upper mids is less pronounced than the OG
Bxlxaxkxe
Amp ho
Thing sound FANTASTIC. Purple mode good lord
hellzington
Well-known member
Thanks for watching. I think it sounds really, really good and I barely even know how to dial it in.
The purple mode really shocked me. I thought it would be like Eclipse+ mode on the Helios Eclipse, where the gain is unuseable and the feedback is over the top but it wasn't. It was very useable. They did a great job.
Mike Oxhuge
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For me, I really love the tones of this amp and it is my favorite sounding Bogner I've heard clips of.
Beyond Black
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And at that moment, the deal was sealed…
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GrimTrigger
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That was a fun hang. Thanks! The Tool riffing was tight and massive sounding.
Does your amp have the “typo” on the Purple B switch? PUPR.B?
mwc
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Great video to get a sense of it. I do wish it was 100 watts still because it would probably sound a lot wider with the bigger iron.
My 100W snorkler (78 JMP2203 donor) for comparison, depth at 0 and deep switch off.
My 100W snorkler (78 JMP2203 donor) for comparison, depth at 0 and deep switch off.
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FourT6and2
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So
Nice! So... original or Deluxe? Forget about all the switching options and versatility. Plug in, killer pissed off high-gain sound... which amp are you reaching for?
Nice! So... original or Deluxe? Forget about all the switching options and versatility. Plug in, killer pissed off high-gain sound... which amp are you reaching for?
skoora
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It’s just the nature of a phone recording (or similar) where the sound doesn’t really change through all the settings. Even with headphones I can’t hear any significant changes and it seems this amp sacrifices juiciness for tightness. I enjoy your OG Snorkler clip a fair bit more.
Would be nice if this lead to people offloading their Snorkler at a decent price to get this but the new 104 didn’t exactly crash 101B’s
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bste328
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Dude, thanks for sharing! I love my snorkler and never thought I could sell it. But this is tempting me...is it worth?? From that clip I cannot really understand. Can you still get the OG sounds? This is the most important part (at least for me)....I don't care about versatility. I mean, I have 3 other amps for that....
darkscarf
Member
Thanks for the video Mike! Couple comments:
Unless the mode switch is now a 3-way, I don't think that PURPL.B switch is a second bright switch. I heard every other switch when you flipped them but didn't hear anything when you changed that one. It's potentially the way you'd engage Purple but I don't think it did anything during the video as your foot switch was connected (which took over). Separate switch makes me think optional "boost" that can be added on either Blue or Red (like 101B) but the foot switch layout makes me think it's just a dedicated path/Channel (like a Red + gain stage). If true, very Bogner to not just add a 3-way Mode lol
Standard Snorkler bright switch is only active on Red as well, so that's not changed.
Looking forward to the full review.
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gritstogroats
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Im digging it!
Jccobb2
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Calling the 104 an xtc is almost a lie. I think the 101b value held because the 104 just doesn’t do the same thing. Wish i hadn’t flipped my 101b sight unseen for the 104.It’s just the nature of a phone recording (or similar) where the sound doesn’t really change through all the settings. Even with headphones I can’t hear any significant changes and it seems this amp sacrifices juiciness for tightness. I enjoy your OG Snorkler clip a fair bit more.
Would be nice if this lead to people offloading their Snorkler at a decent price to get this but the 104 didn’t exactly crash 101B’s
technomancer
Well-known member
Hopefully someone less lazy than me reverses it as I would love to see what he did for the purple channel as far as the gain stage / what has changed since the Marshall mod.
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tonedog
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I like the 104 better than any Ecstasy I have had before. That includes 100 A, 100B, 101A 101B, Classic and 20th. the feature set and tones are really great .
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baron55
Active member
Depends on the 104 you get
104GV = 20th Anniversary XTC
104BV = A new total design, not a 100/101B/A, more of a metal amp voicing. Somewhere between a 101b and Uber /Ultra from a gain perspective.
The GV should have come with EL34's as that preamp design is better suited for it. And the BV which is a high gain modern preamp, should come with 6L6
104GV = 20th Anniversary XTC
104BV = A new total design, not a 100/101B/A, more of a metal amp voicing. Somewhere between a 101b and Uber /Ultra from a gain perspective.
The GV should have come with EL34's as that preamp design is better suited for it. And the BV which is a high gain modern preamp, should come with 6L6
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tonedog
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I have both but the BV gets the edge for me.
technomancer
Well-known member
IIRC you can order either amp with either tube or KT88s. Dealers are ordering what they want.
darkscarf
Member
It's reverse actually. BV's are more commonly spec'ced with EL34s. GV's are more commonly spec'ced with 6L6s. That is at least the current state of stock across resellers.
Having said that there's no hard coupling, any voicing can be ordered with any available type of valves they offer.
