Boogie JP2C (Coming Back)

[sleewell2]

still though coming into every thread and saying the 5153 is bast evar is pretty lame/old. you are basically the forum equivalent of an evh pop up ad.

 

[rottingcorpse]

still though coming into every thread and saying the 5153 is bast evar is pretty lame/old. you are basically the forum equivalent of an evh pop up ad.

Agreed. It's like special Ed screaming "I got mail!" every time you post. Funny at first,now it's sad.

To the op,I have wondered if this loop problem would be an issue if you were running just a decimator in the loop to get rid of preamp hiss.

 

[johnpace2]

still though coming into every thread and saying the 5153 is bast evar is pretty lame/old. you are basically the forum equivalent of an evh pop up ad.

Agreed. I love the EVH amps, but not sure WTF that has to do with a C+ thread.

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

still though coming into every thread and saying the 5153 is bast evar is pretty lame/old. you are basically the forum equivalent of an evh pop up ad.

Agreed. It's like special Ed screaming "I got mail!" every time you post. Funny at first,now it's sad.

Agreed. I love the EVH amps, but not sure WTF that has to do with a C+ thread.

 

[shredi knight]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OaC7gtofy9w

One of the better clips out there of the JP2C

The first part of that clip is taken from Mesa'a official demo for the JP-2C, where many on here (and elsewhere) were underwhelmed by the tone. It sounds better in this clip for some reason, like it's been eq'ed or something. It sounds brighter, where in the original demo, it sounds dark & bland. Still not great (IMHO), but better than it did.

I don't think that is even the JP-2C in the second part of that clip (the lead playing). Looks like that is his Triaxis rig (I'm guessing from the two 1x12 cabs, which I've only seen him use with that rig).

 

[Deleted member 8761]

Welcome to the peanut gallery...

still though coming into every thread and saying the 5153 is bast evar is pretty lame/old. you are basically the forum equivalent of an evh pop up ad.

Agreed. It's like special Ed screaming "I got mail!" every time you post. Funny at first,now it's sad.

Agreed. I love the EVH amps, but not sure WTF that has to do with a C+ thread.

 

[blackba]

I think this is a good thread. The amp sounds very nice. Who gives a shit if it cant cop the original 100%

Close enough to my ears.. will agree on the loop thing being a drag.
If we all had the EVH 5153 50, we'd be perfect.

No, we would be complaining about the volume jump.
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index. ... w.1114648/

And then sending it to get it modded:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index. ... p.1660805/

And yes I realize that all amps have quirks. Its whether you can live with those quirks. I think I could live with the loop on the JP2C. I couldn't live with the volume jump on the EVH5153 50Watt, but than again I play clean more than most EVH5153 50Watt owners probably do.

 

[Badronald]

"all amps have quirks"

They do?

My JTM45 doesn't have any. Truth.

 

[VoodooChild24]

This thread just turned into a shit storm on which is the better amp.

 

[vultures]

ITT:

STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

 

[311boogieman]

Think about what would have happened if the Internet was around when the JCM 900 came out.

The net literally would have melted once someone cracked it open and saw all of those clipping diodes

 

[Les Zombie]

My jp2 arrived today but i havent opened it yet, hopefully tonight i can compare it to my mkv.

 

[glip22]

My jp2 arrived today but i havent opened it yet, hopefully tonight i can compare it to my mkv.

That would be great if you can report your thoughts.

 

[blackba]

"all amps have quirks"

They do?

My JTM45 doesn't have any. Truth.

Should have said things people like to change or complain about. Every amp I have has something I wish it had or was different. Never owned a jtm45, but I bet I would wish it had a switchable master volume and a loop.

This is coming from an Engineer. It's my job to look for ways to make things better. That does not mean that I can't be satisfied with my gear, but it does mean that I like to tweak and tinker and that I recognize my gears strengths and weaknesses.

That is why I like to see honest review so highlighting the positive and negatives of an amp.

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

Well that's easy. Diezel VH4 is the better amp by far.../

I think a poll should be taken.

 

[InFlames235]

This thread just turned into a shit storm on which is the better amp.

Well that's easy. Diezel VH4 is the better amp by far.../

Nah I'd say a boss metal zone actually sounds far better to my ears through a crate amp.

 

[vultures]

This thread just turned into a shit storm on which is the better amp.

Well that's easy. Diezel VH4 is the better amp by far.../

Nah I'd say a boss metal zone actually sounds far better to my ears through a crate amp.

My Line 6 Spider would crap all over your Crate bro.

 

[mojotone]

I'm just reading this from the manual. There is a lot to absorb from the manual which may help resolve some issues. Here's a tidbit.

"Unlike many other MESA amplifiers where the Channel MASTER also acts as an EFFECTS SEND control, the JP-2C required a
different layout to ensure the authenticity of the MARK II-C+ circuit. Here Channel 1 uses that scheme (Channel MASTER doubling
as a SEND Level control), but the two high gain Channels (2 and 3) see the GAIN control doubling as the EFFECTS SEND control.
The reason for this has to do with the fact that it is really the LEAD DRIVE control on a MARK II-C+, which WAS responsible for the
SEND strength in a II-C+. Regardless, despite this difference in both origination of the signal and control placement, the Channels
balance out quite nicely and you should have no problem with signal levels at your processor(s)."

From the Mark III manual:

EFFECTS SEND & RETURN
The Effects Loop circuitry of the Mark III is very sophisticated and works very well with nearly all units. The maximum signal strength
obtainable is around 0.6 volts RMS, or about the same as a guitar pickup. Only the lowest quality, cheap digital delays may experience
some overload and we feel the problem here is caused by poor effect design, which would cost only pennies to remedy. Worst
offenders: Roland SDE 1000, Effectron Jr. Please call Roland or Delta to complain ... not us! Suggest that they "pad their input and
buffer their output", as the real world requires! However, it is possible to further lower the Boogie's Effect output strength but not without
increasing the noise and sacrificing some tone. For those who wish to do this we recommend changing resistor R230 from 6.8K to
4.7K. R230 can be located by following the Black wire from the Send jack back to the circuit board. In the Rhythm modes the Volume 1
control determines the Effects Send level, and in the Lead mode, it is the Lead Master. By running the Master 1 higher and these two
controls lower, you can improve the performance of sub-standard effects.


In my eyes he gain control on the first channel of the JP-2C = Volume 1 on the old amps. Master on the 2nd and 3rd channels = Lead Master of the old amps. I could be completely wrong though. These two manuals seem to me to state the opposite of each other.

 

[headlessdeadguy]

This thread just turned into a shit storm on which is the better amp.

Well that's easy. Diezel VH4 is the better amp by far.../

Nah I'd say a boss metal zone actually sounds far better to my ears through a crate amp.

haha, which is what the EVH sounds like anyway. you win!

No way I would take any Diezel over my MKIII. Shut the fuck up and go away, this thread doesn't concern you.

 

[rokket2005]

Regardless of whether the OP returned it, I wish he would've kept his initial review up because that information would've been useful to many others who are looking at the amp and have a work around for the loop "problem" or for those who are otherwise unaffected by it. Instead it gets nuked and future lurkers are given no help at all upon stumbling upon this dumpster fire of a thread.