Boosted Marshall DSL?

[napalmdeath]

King of mediocre amps. It has marshall sound but mostly harsh and thin part of it. On green channel sound like JCM800, but without body and feel. Unfortunately those are things what makes JCM great. Lead channel without mods is fizzy and muddy when gain is past noon. I tried to like it and bought it few times but when You ever played good old Marshall, there is no way to accept what DSL do.

user error

amazing amps. if you can't get great tones from a DSL it sucks to admit but its not the amp.

Yep.

 

[napalmdeath]

So boosting the green channel makes it a good amp? WTH? So is the green channel good unboosted? I sure hope so, maybe for a clean platform to boosted? Seems grabbing something where both the channels have a desire to play makes it seem like a better choice. 2205/2210 with a clean channel no one uses * back to the future perhaps. The idea of 100 watt 2 channel amp should be somewhat of the primary focus, maybe the green channel smokes the tones of a SLO and the logic just hasnt been discovered. I tried one a couple times and had no interest to purchase based on how it sounded with a guitar. If I have to buy pedals to convince me I want the amp, I wouldn't..I'd look for another amp. They are cheap, and maybe that's why? 400 bucks for 2 good pedals and 280 for the amp NOPE

Cool, that's you, and you're pretty obviously in the minority.

I think most guys on this forum use boosts in front of gain channels on their amps to flavor them the way they like. That doesn't make an amp bad.

Also, you're overpaying for your pedals.

Word.

 

[jcmtone1]

I have a few Marshalls (modded Plexi, JCM 800, DSL 50) and have been playing gigs lately with the DSL 50 on the green channel in crunch mode with a DigiTech CM-2 for a boost and it sounds great. The more volume you give the DSL the better it sounds. It's a great amp and simple to use and gig.

 

[bubucci]

King of mediocre amps. It has marshall sound but mostly harsh and thin part of it. On green channel sound like JCM800, but without body and feel. Unfortunately those are things what makes JCM great. Lead channel without mods is fizzy and muddy when gain is past noon. I tried to like it and bought it few times but when You ever played good old Marshall, there is no way to accept what DSL do.

user error

amazing amps. if you can't get great tones from a DSL it sucks to admit but its not the amp.

Yep.

Maybe first time, but not second or third time. I took them on a flip in because they are very cheap and always quick selling item. I had 90’s ones, new ones, 85th anniverssary and tested them with all kind of cabs, tubes and small recomended mods. I dont used words like terrible, awful etc just mediocre. If somebody need scratch Marshall itch, it will works just fine. I can get usable sounds but not great, but maybe I am spoiled with old Marshalls and newer recreations like Suhr or Friedman, I admit.

 

[JMP2203]

Vinnie Moore and Gary Moore both sound great thru them

 

[skullfxr]

Regarding the comparisons, for a sub $400 head, they can kick ass. I would boost and gig one any day if I was in a band that was going for that sound. A JCM 800 is not in a comparable price range, definitely not Friedman.

YMMV.

 

[dstroud]

i definitely prefer the green channel on crunch boosted. i sold my 1st DSL when i got a reissue jcm800. the 800 was slightly more organic, but still the DSL was still really good sounding.

 

[godgrinder]

So boosting the green channel makes it a good amp? WTH? So is the green channel good unboosted? I sure hope so, maybe for a clean platform to boosted? Seems grabbing something where both the channels have a desire to play makes it seem like a better choice. 2205/2210 with a clean channel no one uses * back to the future perhaps. The idea of 100 watt 2 channel amp should be somewhat of the primary focus, maybe the green channel smokes the tones of a SLO and the logic just hasnt been discovered. I tried one a couple times and had no interest to purchase based on how it sounded with a guitar. If I have to buy pedals to convince me I want the amp, I wouldn't..I'd look for another amp. They are cheap, and maybe that's why? 400 bucks for 2 good pedals and 280 for the amp NOPE

The green channel has about the same amount of gain as a stock 2203. No one seem to have a problem with needing a boost for 2203?

 

[Beandust]

So boosting the green channel makes it a good amp? WTH? So is the green channel good unboosted? I sure hope so, maybe for a clean platform to boosted? Seems grabbing something where both the channels have a desire to play makes it seem like a better choice. 2205/2210 with a clean channel no one uses * back to the future perhaps. The idea of 100 watt 2 channel amp should be somewhat of the primary focus, maybe the green channel smokes the tones of a SLO and the logic just hasnt been discovered. I tried one a couple times and had no interest to purchase based on how it sounded with a guitar. If I have to buy pedals to convince me I want the amp, I wouldn't..I'd look for another amp. They are cheap, and maybe that's why? 400 bucks for 2 good pedals and 280 for the amp NOPE

The green channel has about the same amount of gain as a stock 2203. No one seem to have a problem with needing a boost for 2203?

You may be right. I never mentioned the amount of gain in any reference to a Marshall or a boost so I dont understand your point. Your saying a dsl green channel is as good as an 800? It seems like it. An 800 is a better sounding amp to me. Sorry if that isnt your opinion

 

[godgrinder]

You may be right. I never mentioned the amount of gain in any reference to a Marshall or a boost so I dont understand your point. Your saying a dsl green channel is as good as an 800? It seems like it. An 800 is a better sounding amp to me. Sorry if that isnt your opinion

It's not, but it's cheap. Good enough for a gigging amp or backup.

 

[napalmdeath]

You may be right. I never mentioned the amount of gain in any reference to a Marshall or a boost so I dont understand your point. Your saying a dsl green channel is as good as an 800? It seems like it. An 800 is a better sounding amp to me. Sorry if that isnt your opinion

It's not, but it's cheap. Good enough for a gigging amp or backup.

Definitely not an 800. But, in my opinion, green channel crunch boosted is damn close, tone-wise, at a fraction of the price.

If I was after that tone on a budget, that, or a Laney GH50L would be at the top of my list. The Laney would probably have the edge.

 

[Beandust]

You may be right. I never mentioned the amount of gain in any reference to a Marshall or a boost so I dont understand your point. Your saying a dsl green channel is as good as an 800? It seems like it. An 800 is a better sounding amp to me. Sorry if that isnt your opinion

It's not, but it's cheap. Good enough for a gigging amp or backup.

Definitely not an 800. But, in my opinion, green channel crunch boosted is damn close, tone-wise, at a fraction of the price.

If I was after that tone on a budget, that, or a Laney GH50L would be at the top of my list. The Laney would probably have the edge.

I need to re visit. I'll boost the green channel and hope to get good marshall tone at higher gain tones? I need to understand, if your gigging need a clean and a louder dirt/lead tone. 2 boost are required?

 

[Racerxrated]

The pros used them because they are easily replaceable, and sound good enough to play out with. Are they on par with a good 800? Nope. But they do a decent impression. For the price it's a no brainer to have one around; if only to leave your great sounding vintage Marshall at home and bring the DSL out to the gig. The crowd won't know the difference, and if something happens to it, replace.

 

[godgrinder]

if your gigging need a clean and a louder dirt/lead tone. 2 boost are required?

Maybe, but if you're using a stock 2203 you'd run into the same issue anyway.

I don't use clean tones at all though.

 

[fusedbrain]

Regarding the comparisons, for a sub $400 head, they can kick ass. I would boost and gig one any day if I was in a band that was going for that sound. A JCM 800 is not in a comparable price range, definitely not Friedman.

YMMV.

The pros used them because they are easily replaceable, and sound good enough to play out with. Are they on par with a good 800? Nope. But they do a decent impression. For the price it's a no brainer to have one around; if only to leave your great sounding vintage Marshall at home and bring the DSL out to the gig. The crowd won't know the difference, and if something happens to it, replace.

This ^^^

 

[Rick Lee]

Regarding the comparisons, for a sub $400 head, they can kick ass.

You're not gonna find a lot of DSL50s for sub-$400. I got one, but it needed work. And the 50s are about half as common as the 100s. My DSL100H was $500 shipped and, after the OT and choke upgrade, it slayed. But you're not gonna get a well-sorted DSL-anything for sub-$400.

 

[skullfxr]

Regarding the comparisons, for a sub $400 head, they can kick ass.

You're not gonna find a lot of DSL50s for sub-$400. I got one, but it needed work. And the 50s are about half as common as the 100s. My DSL100H was $500 shipped and, after the OT and choke upgrade, it slayed. But you're not gonna get a well-sorted DSL-anything for sub-$400.

I can do the work and have. Even sub $550 they are still hard to beat.

 

[peterc52]

Only had 5 min with it this morning when I picked it up. It’s from 97. Made in England. Not bad is my initial thought.

 

[zuel69]

King of mediocre amps. It has marshall sound but mostly harsh and thin part of it. On green channel sound like JCM800, but without body and feel. Unfortunately those are things what makes JCM great. Lead channel without mods is fizzy and muddy when gain is past noon. I tried to like it and bought it few times but when You ever played good old Marshall, there is no way to accept what DSL do.

^^^^ ? percent spot on!

It's better than the TSL for sure, but these statements certainly are not "user error".

 

[splawner]

King of mediocre amps. It has marshall sound but mostly harsh and thin part of it. On green channel sound like JCM800, but without body and feel. Unfortunately those are things what makes JCM great. Lead channel without mods is fizzy and muddy when gain is past noon. I tried to like it and bought it few times but when You ever played good old Marshall, there is no way to accept what DSL do.

^^^^ ? percent spot on!

It's better than the TSL for sure, but these statements certainly are not "user error".

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