japetus
Awawa
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He's a real dude, it's just calling us TGP was a bridge too damn far!!
Fiesta Red
Well-known member
His post got flagged there too
TotallyRadGuitars
Well-known member
I don't mean to pile on since pretty much everyone has responded very negatively. It takes some guts to try to launch and advertise a product line. However, I think you're going about it in the wrong way - both the product itself, and how you're advertising.
"Grassroots" advertising on guitar/gear forums is notoriously a non-starter. You need to start a website/youtube channel, or tiktok, or whatever more general social media platform you prefer, and get some good reviews or endorsements from people and actually show your product in use. In the case of guitars, in studios, live shows, etc. so there's some provenance. That will create some positive sentiment towards you and your product, and then if you show up to a forum like this it will be welcomed (in the same way that Peter Diezel and others show up here occasionally, and their input is highly valued and respected) rather than "oh, another guy trying to make a quick buck."
As for the product itself, it looks pretty.. terrible. Are you makings these parts yourself? If so, that's fine that it's taking you some time to learn the craft. No one was an expert luthier the moment they touched a router. However, these kinds of meh-quality jobs shouldn't be sold, it gives a huge impression of poor quality. In the same way a photographer might take 10,000 pictures, but only show the absolute best 10 they've ever taken.
On the other hand, and what we all suspect, is that you are importing cheap parts and either assembling, or worse, simply cutting up an already complete guitar to look different. If that's the case, it'd be better to just be honest about where the parts come from and what you are doing. At the very least people would fault you less, even if you would struggle to sell anything. You might be able to make a $100 non-brand import play like the most amazing guitar on the planet, with every upgraded part imaginable, but people just aren't going to pay for something like that. The people interested in those types of things either buy one and do it themselves for the fun of it (see: many youtube videos) or would never bother at all - the market for people who want "hot rodded" imports is absolutely tiny or maybe even non-existent.
Good luck.
ShitSquatch
Well-known member
Ahhh I’m wrong again… and for those builders and such listening at home, it’s always is “strange” when you see 1 poast count and advertising a product with the first poast. Don’t know why that is but it’s Just my .2 worth.
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ClintN667
Well-known member
I feel the same way about guys who never engage in any topics except to post a link to their YouTube vid then comment on that thread alone.
It's like saying "hey everyone! Just here to make money off you"
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Deleted member 38657
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Are any of those guitars intonated correctly? May help your sales.
ShitSquatch
Well-known member
Yep and the hey vote for my band or kid or whatever… may not be but seems spammy.
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headlessdeadguy
Well-known member
Vote for me.
ShitSquatch
Well-known member
Okay, and I just subscribe to you're youtube channel and became a Patreon member.
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Bardagh
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Don’t forget to ring the bell! And if you’re buying something on Amazon or Sweetwater. why not use my affiliate link?
MrDowntown
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Tried Patron level a few times….got sick of it
Music&Chaos
Well-known member
Around $1k for a 'worse than generic' partscaster? Hard pass. These are hideous and far too overpriced.
Fiesta Red
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Texsunburst59
Well-known member
I think he got shamed into shutting down his whole operation.
I think he saw the real truth.
PDC
Well-known member
Good lord launching a new guitar line must be impossible. Between Warmoth, Musikraft, KNE, Butalla, Dive Bomb, and THEN Mighty Mite, (etc)… Seems like anyone who wants a one off has unlimited access to quality parts at varying price points to get the job done. I have 14 spare parts guitars in my basement. (Could have bought 3 Chubtones and called it good!)
Fiesta Red
Well-known member
Is this Echopark's new modern guitar line?
JackBootedThug
MURDERATOR
Moderator
I was going to ban and delete this but I have enjoyed the banter…
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MetalThrasher
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I bought all of them... Who knows, maybe each one will be worth 2k each in the future LOL
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