Did Dave Friedman find the josé mods behind Van Halen 1 ?

[DanTravis62]

Sounds quite a bit thicker and darker than the album. More like his FW or WCF tones. I like it

I don't think it's actually any thicker or darker, it just seems that way because it's a room mic and not a close mic

 

[Chubtone]

This video alone tells you everything one needs to know about how Ed's amp actually sounded before Ted Templeman and Don Landee mixed VH1.

I'm hearing a stock Super Lead variac'd down for a little extra compression and a little spongier low end. Donn defintely put some schmutz on it to turn that into the finished VH1 product.

 

[Chubtone]

I don't think it's actually any thicker or darker, it just seems that way because it's a room mic and not a close mic

And the following albums portrayed that same tone a little more accurately to what was coming out of the speaker.

 

[glpg80]

You can act all nonchalant about it now, but when I get his tone, you are going to be sooo jealous. Then you will change your tone

 

[DanTravis62]

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Of all the things in the universe that could make me change my "tone" - both my guitar tone, and my slightly sardonic, long-suffering posting style - someone else sounding like EVH is the last thing that would cause it

 

[glpg80]

Of all the things in the universe that could make me change my "tone" - both my guitar tone, and my slightly sardonic, long-suffering posting style - someone else sounding like EVH is the last thing that would cause it

Most people can’t tame a stock Marshall at ear bleeding levels and boosted with a simple echoplex and still play as cleanly as Eddie did. It’s absolutely nothing to hide behind and insanely unpleasant from a players perspective. To do that for an entire show is mind blowing to me. Anyone chasing that era should be spending more time wood shedding than amp tweaking.

 

[DanTravis62]

Most people can’t tame a stock Marshall at ear bleeding levels and boosted with a simple echoplex and still play as cleanly as Eddie did. It’s absolutely nothing to hide behind and insanely unpleasant from a players perspective. To do that for an entire show is mind blowing to me. Anyone chasing that era should be spending more time wood shedding than amp tweaking.

That's the real disconnect for the people who know that this tone is a stock plexi, and the people who are convinced theres some secret mod

As someone who literally played like this, with a stock marshall at ear bleeding levels for years in clubs (sometimes with a power brake!) it's obvious to me. And it's going to be obvious to anyone else who has that experience "riding the tiger" - especially on stage in front of people.

Riding your volume knob on a cranked amp on the verge of exploding, trying to control your dynamics, the feedback, and making it work - that used to be the standard way everyone played guitar at every local gig in america and europe for decades.

The ampchaser types dont realize when people say "its in the hands" or "it's the player" it doesn't just mean his playing technique, they also mean the way he controls the amp when he plays.

 

[Dale B]

At this point discussing what type of headset mic Sammy Hagar used during his solo years would be more interesting


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To Hell with Eddie's tone! I want to know what kind of shampoo Sammy was using to get so much volume in that lion's mane!

 

[Lightning]

Edward used a variac and the lowest he went with a variac was 60 volts, he used also explained that his Marshall plexi(plexis in general) was extremely loud and the variac help tame the volume.

 

[ChurchHill]

The ampchaser types dont realize when people say "its in the hands" or "it's the player" it doesn't just mean his playing technique, they also mean the way he controls the amp when he plays.

This... 1000%. Small stage, loud as hell drummer, 100w NMV Marshall into a single 4x12 with just a cable, no effects, no gate. Do that and make it work and you have my attention.

 

[7704A]

stock Marshall at ear bleeding levels and boosted with a simple echoplex

Aha! So really all this time we've been hearing 100% echoplex!

 

[reignman454]

Dave as well as many have gone on record multiple times that whatever the trim pot on the back of the amp was, it was removed long before anyone who’s come forward got to peek.


If they don’t even know what a knob did, don’t tell me anyone knows whether it was modded etc.Cant convince me otherwise

 

[DanTravis62]

Aha! So really all this time we've been hearing 100% echoplex!

Obviously he should have been using a mark one or some shit

 

[7704A]

Obviously he should have been using a mark one or some shit

Only if it's an early one without the switchable boost, otherwise your tone is 100% switch contacts.