I finally found out what the pot behind van halen VH1 does (it wasn't a master at all)

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God did two things that are very amusing. He gave morons the ability to communicate. Smash smashed haha🤣
 


to me the brighter of the two tracks just sound like a celestion miced with a 57 on axis on the dust cap more than a JBL,
but it could also be a JBL just heavily eq’ed to not be as bright as it would normally sound close miced and raw…which is very bright!

if you go to JJ Blair’s insta to find the original post he goes through all of the isolated instrument tracks and there is quite a bit of gtr bleed on the drum mics, which may contribute to the sound and may have captured some of the JBL in the room vibe…

the other thing i noticed is that the echo printed on the solo track didn’t sound much like an echoplex to me. sounded more like:

Eddie Van Halen used the Roland DC-20 echo on several tracks, notably including "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love," "Runnin' With the Devil," and "Jump."

bottom line is the tracks here imo point out the raw tone was very consistent with what i know to be a cranked/attenuated plexi, with the help of a variac and maybe a boss eq pedal and echoplex preamp out front. the magic was Donn Landee mix and the Sunset Sound chamber.
 
These ampchaser threads are like Geraldo opening Al Capone's vault.

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Bro, you really don't get it. Why can you not simply grasp the concept that nobody is ever going to know "definitively" what was in Ed's number one Marshall. Whatever that "famous" person you are referring to said that is in his amp is disputed by numerous legendary amp builders. Do you not see the cycle here?

Nobody is disputing that Ed worked with Jose, or that Ed had other amps that were modded by Jose or whomever but until there is verified schematic proof regarding his main Marshall - nobody will ever know. And that is never going to happen.
I agree with you that nobody will ever know the exact mods, if there were any. Still, identifying the main mod is already a big step closer. In fact, that main mod is what gives the amp those crazy mids.

Honestly, when people find out what it is, I think half of the Van Halen community will laugh and the other half will be frustrated. The main mod lines up with what José said in Eddie’s biography.
 
I agree with you that nobody will ever know the exact mods, if there were any. Still, identifying the main mod is already a big step closer. In fact, that main mod is what gives the amp those crazy mids.

Honestly, when people find out what it is, I think half of the Van Halen community will laugh and the other half will be frustrated. The main mod lines up with what José said in Eddie’s biography.

But...see. There you go again. The words you chose in your response is talking as if a mod was definitively there to begin with :poke:

That's what the rub is about.

Can you accept that maybe his main amp was not modded, as stated by many pros who have looked at it?

In the end though - does it really matter? You either like your tone or you don't? No one else cares. I don't see Al Estrada stressing out over it and he plays live with DLR.
 
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