EVs cheaper to run, lol

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Well, I think my boss got 15k for his model 3, and could have bought new model 3 for around 40k

But this time he went with the S for probably close to 80k, I guess that's how confident he is.

We actually calculated his savings ( a lot of the data is stored in the Tesla app) and it was substantial.

BTW my boss is a Trump supporter, and thinks Corn POP stole the election, so he's aligned with a lot of the guys here ?‍♀️:ROFLMAO:
Excellent for him. Prices not only are different, but to visit my grandmother one city over, it's 1.5 hours of driving. In the winter, that shit won't even start. EVs have a place, but not around where I live. And considering the damage they are doing to the environment (rather than going with sodium ion), is a disgrace. If a person can live with that (more damage than gas cars), then so be it. Swallow the load of the gov't and buy 10 of them.
 
Then there are ones that are smart, business minded, and do things that make good financial sense rather than appealing to emotions.

For sure. I have friends that fit that mold. They have employees to pay as well as their own family and in a lot of instances Trump is good business. Not nearly as many as I think most assume - his initial massive tax cut after taking office COST me money!
 
Neither Trump, nor Biden had any policy changes that made my life better or worse. Both have done a fine job policy wise.

The only difference, Trump is a cunt, and pisses off half the population of probably the world. I don't like cunts as president.

Now of course many of the Trumpy bears wrongly attribute the inflation to Biden, and well that's because their programming implants it in their heads.

Even the smart Trumpers (like my boss) know the inflation is caused by money printing, and global supply disruptions during COVID.

Oh, and BTW the smart Trumpers, got the vax
Trump might be a cunt but he ain't no pussy. Biden on the other hand can barely finish a thought. It happened again on Sunday. He also drastically changed our energy policy on day 1 of his administration - which drastically affected inflation.
 
Biden on the other hand can barely finish a thought.

in a number of ways he's not fit for the daily grind of being president. But whenever he's really had to be on he's nailed it. His speech the other night when he actually named-checked Trump and MAGA was extremely powerful. As soon as his anger rises his wits seem to sharpen in kind.
 
I think most cars can charge on 110v but it takes forever.

I ran an electric excavator the other day and it was a trip lol. It felt weird but from a safety standpoint it was great to be able to clearly talk to people while using equipment. I don’t think the tech is quite there yet for commercial equipment in general though
110?
:confused:

If that were the case, wouldn’t most just plug in an extension chord? Not realistic.
 
Well, in fairness to me, I wasn't really talking about oil exports, I was talking about how policy affected inflation.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/wrap-up-president-bidens-unprecedented-assault-on-american-energy-increased-costs-on-american-consumers-and-businesses/

Dude I don't want to have to LOL at this. But LOL. This oversight committee is full of hacks, and hypotheticals. The results DO NOT reflect what these people were hoping to show. I guess it worked on folks that just heard it, and took it at face value.

Here's the thing IF Biden's policy actually affected energy production (predominantly oil) WE WOULD BE EXPORTING LESS OF IT, NOT MORE.
 
Dude I don't want to have to LOL at this. But LOL. This oversight committee is full of hacks, and hypotheticals. The results DO NOT reflect what these people were hoping to show. I guess it worked on folks that just heard it, and took it at face value.

Here's the thing IF Biden's policy actually affected energy production (predominantly oil) WE WOULD BE EXPORTING LESS OF IT, NOT MORE.
You can LOL all you want. It is still a .gov domain. Find another link if you like. Dude. I don't care.

I'm not talking about export. I'm talking about being self sufficient and not having to buy oil from other countries or tap into reserves that are meant to stabilize and preserve. But if you're cool with Biden's energy 'plan' and his Bidonomics - you are certainly welcome to support it.
 
You can LOL all you want. It is still a .gov domain. Find another link if you like. Dude. I don't care.

I'm not talking about export. I'm talking about being self sufficient and not having to buy oil from other countries or tap into reserves that are meant to stabilize and preserve. But if you're cool with Biden's energy 'plan' and his Bidonomics - you are certainly welcome to support it.

You have no clue how this works do you? and this is why you're so easily fooled.

When we produce oil, it get's sold to the highest bidder FREE TRADE baby. This will be local companies, and global companies. The GOV stays out of the business of telling companies where to sell oil, which is what we want right?

I'll try again IF WE DID NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH OIL WE WOULD BE EXPORTING LESS ?‍♀️


Feast your eye's on this graph. It only takes a few minutes to debunk the BS bro.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS1&f=M
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A government link , shocking lol. Stop believing what the government says and start realizing what the governments actually doing . Two entirely different things .
 

John Lewis Won’t Insure Electric Cars Over Prohibitive Repair Costs​

Published on October 2, 2023


https://principia-scientific.com/john-lewis-wont-insure-electric-cars-over-prohibitive-repair-costs/


Eric Peters: The Truth You’re Not Told About Electric Cars​


https://principia-scientific.com/eric-peters-the-truth-youre-not-told-about-electric-cars/


How Electric Cars Fail Miserably In Ordinary Driving Situations​


https://principia-scientific.com/how-electric-cars-fail-miserably-in-ordinary-driving-situations/
 
A government link , shocking lol. Stop believing what the government says and start realizing what the governments actually doing . Two entirely different things .

yet @311splawndude posted a GOV link from a sham committee to try and prove otherwise ?‍♀️
 
You trade in before the battery warranty is up. Everyone know this ?‍♂️

Same issue if you own a gas vehicle past the warranty, Engine, or trans failure will put you in the same financial pickle.

These excuses are time limited. Every aspect of EV is getting better each year.

Also there's lithium battery chemistry that lasts 10x longer, and does not burst into flames. LiFePO4 chemistry. It has a little bit lower energy density,
but is very safe, and has a much higher cycle life. EV's are starting to use this.

I use LiFePO4 Batteries in my solar energy storage system.
My brother owns an Acura RL with 1.3 million miles on it. Original engine and transmission. He still drives it daily for work. No current electric vehicle is able to do this.
 
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John Lewis Won’t Insure Electric Cars Over Prohibitive Repair Costs​

Published on October 2, 2023


https://principia-scientific.com/john-lewis-wont-insure-electric-cars-over-prohibitive-repair-costs/


Eric Peters: The Truth You’re Not Told About Electric Cars​


https://principia-scientific.com/eric-peters-the-truth-youre-not-told-about-electric-cars/

So what, the market will respond. If higher premiums cause reduced sales, then the EV manufactures will make the batteries less prone to damage.

It's not going to kill an emerging industry.
 

Are UAW and Auto Companies Ignorant or Corrupt for Refusing Tariff Protection?​

Andrew Wallace

September 30, 2023

There is no excuse for low wages for auto workers or anyone in manufacturing unless the Parasitic Super-Rich Ruling Class (PSRRC) refuses to allow protection with tariffs. I say the PSRRC because they control the ‘woke’ corporations who bribe the government not to use tariffs. The really sick part of this is that the PSRRC doesn’t own the ‘woke’ corporations. They only control them, and most of the bribe money comes from the public stockholders equity. The Mafia has nothing on the PSRRC crime syndicate.

The government only needs to put sufficient tariffs on imports to allow a living wage to American workers. But the PSRRC will not allow tariffs because it would reduce the profitability of their foreign factories. The PSRRC and their controlled ‘woke’ corporations destroyed the economies of hundreds of cities and unemployed thousands of Americans by shipping their manufacturing overseas.

For this to happen, management of unions and companies had to be corrupt for not insisting on tariffs to protect workers and their corporations. Pray to God that we get honest politicians to reverse this horrific trend and rebuild our manufacturing base. There is no honorable or lawful reason for unions and company officials not to insist on tariff protection. People in control are obviously bribed.

Government has No Power to Mandate Production of Electric Vehicles (EVs).

The federal government has no lawful power to order anyone in the states to produce anything. Powers of the federal government are severely limited by the Enumerated Powers in the Constitution. Presidential Executive Orders have no authority or power whatsoever in the states, save for federal employees and federally-chartered corporate entities. Also, administrative “laws” written by bureaucrats are null and void. Only the legislative Congress can pass laws. Most of the laws passed by Congress are unconstitutional, and therefore null and void. In other words, the auto industry is ‘woke’ and part of the PSRRC, who must destroy the United States to rule the world.

Impossible for Electric Vehicles (EVs) to Replace all Fossil Fuel Vehicles (FFVs)

It is simply impossible to replace all fossil- fuel vehicles with EVs, as we have no capacity to produce and deliver electricity in the necessary amount. It would be impossible to routinely use EVs in emergencies or in rural areas, or for long-distance travel.

Electric Vehicles Use More Fossil Fuel to produce Electricity than Fossil-Fuel Vehicles Use!

Numerous writers have stated that there is no saving in using EVs. There is no reduction in fossil fuels required. The cost of producing and delivering electricity for this market is prohibitive. The purchase cost of EVs is prohibitive.

We Don’t Have Critical Raw Materials to Produce Electric Vehicles, but China Does.

Is someone in government a traitor for promoting China? My answer: there has to be traitors in government and industry. China has the rare-earth materials required to produce EVs; we don’t.

We Don’t Have Capacity to Produce Required Electricity if All Vehicles were EVs, and
If We Did, We Don’t Have Ability to Distribute It.


We don’t have capacity to produce electricity to power an all-electric fleet of vehicles, nor do we have the ability to deliver it economically. EVs make good golf carts and autos for limited distances, but are another disaster in emergencies or rural areas. Owners of EVs have been warned against parking in garages, due to fires and explosions. If all vehicles were EVs, new parking garages would be required due to the extra weight of the batteries. The lifespan of an EV is around half that for a fossil-fueled vehicle. When the battery system goes, you can junk the EV.

Batteries degrade over time, and also during hot and cold weather. Cooling or heating the EV further reduces your range. EVs do not have spare tires because of the weight.

The average citizen can’t afford an EV, even with government subsidies. The only purpose for EVs is to impoverish the people and ultimately to force them to use public transportation and public housing, like the poor slobs in the Communist Democrat Cities.
https://newswithviews.com/are-uaw-a...nt-or-corrupt-for-refusing-tariff-protection/
 
You have no clue how this works do you? and this is why you're so easily fooled.

When we produce oil, it get's sold to the highest bidder FREE TRAID baby. This will be local companies, and global companies. The GOV stays out of the business of telling companies where to sell oil, which is what we want right?

I'll try again IF WE DID NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH OIL WE WOULD BE EXPORTING LESS ?‍♀️


Feast your eye's on this graph. It only takes a few minutes to debunk the BS bro.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS1&f=M
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That's fine. I'm done with it for now anyway. We'll never agree probably on what the US stance should be on energy supply/use but you keep talking about oil production and export and I'm talking about pipelines, fracking, windmills, oil, etc. policy. Plus that graph at 2020 drops to 1970 levels so. Oh well, you are happy with Bionomics evidently and that's cool.
 

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