Fryette Support?

[paulyc]

Funny that Fryette's wouldn't return his calls/emails until the post went up, he got RIGHT in touch with him after.

 

[Kelly]

I asked " the powers that be" ( mods named in red ) why the other thread was deleted and am still waiting for an answer...

You accused Fryette of stealing $2k from your friend, and you accused them of saying Cameron had stole from them. I proved your second accusation was a lie, your first probly was too. You need to lay off the crackpipe, son.

 

[sjk]

I asked " the powers that be" ( mods named in red ) why the other thread was deleted and am still waiting for an answer...

You accused Fryette of stealing $2k from your friend, and you accused them of saying Cameron had stole from them. I proved your second accusation was a lie, your first probly was too. You need to lay off the crackpipe, son.

Proved to who, the internet cops? I don't see anywhere you posted it here, I get it you probably told the mods. Nice way to talk to some one in an otherwise generally civil internet thread (up to your post), what's that all about?

 

[Racerxrated]

And everyone calls blades a thief even though he puts out product and never ripped anyone.

Since you brought Blades into this, not sure who called him a thief? But I think he's an ass. Oh by the way, his recent FB postings within the last few months prove that all his shit talking hasn't stopped. All the stuff about "oh I've said stuff I regret too"... Clearly Blades is the same assclown he's always been. Not sure why you're trying so hard to defend him??

 

[paulyc]

I asked " the powers that be" ( mods named in red ) why the other thread was deleted and am still waiting for an answer...

You accused Fryette of stealing $2k from your friend, and you accused them of saying Cameron had stole from them. I proved your second accusation was a lie, your first probly was too. You need to lay off the crackpipe, son.

Where did you "prove" anything? I never saw it... I remember Stevie and Mark got into it on The Guitar Amp Board or somewhere and Stevie said Mark stole from VHT when Mark worked there.

My friend wants his cash or something of equal value, not 3 more years of BS.

 

[justinashouri]

I always had a good response as well.

 

[Mailman1971]

And everyone calls blades a thief even though he puts out product and never ripped anyone.

Since you brought Blades into this, not sure who called him a thief? But I think he's an ass. Oh by the way, his recent FB postings within the last few months prove that all his shit talking hasn't stopped. All the stuff about "oh I've said stuff I regret too"... Clearly Blades is the same assclown he's always been. Not sure why you're trying so hard to defend him??

Not defending him. Just putting out some truth. When he was called a thief for "stealing " mark cameron mods. There is a big difference about someone taking someone's idea and improving it versus taking people's money. But blades is a character no denying it.
But what is going on as far as people out thousands of dollars is not in the same league to me. This kind of behavior pisses me off. The trash talking don't bother me a bit no matter who it comes from. Because that's all it is. Talk. But taking money from people that put trust in you is pretty sad in my opinion.

 

[RJF]

For a company that used to be sold by Musician's Friend, to now having FOUR employees seems like the ship is sinking.

Doesn't mean they had any more employees back then either. They are a perfect example of what a real boutique amp builder is, and have been for a long time.

 

[RJF]

They are continuously developing and releasing new products. It has been that way since the company started.

When are they going to quit with these little gadgets and put out a new head? The Pittbull series has remained the same for what now? A decade? I'd like to see a new flag ship head.

 

[Racerxrated]

And everyone calls blades a thief even though he puts out product and never ripped anyone.

Since you brought Blades into this, not sure who called him a thief? But I think he's an ass. Oh by the way, his recent FB postings within the last few months prove that all his shit talking hasn't stopped. All the stuff about "oh I've said stuff I regret too"... Clearly Blades is the same assclown he's always been. Not sure why you're trying so hard to defend him??

Not defending him. Just putting out some truth. When he was called a thief for "stealing " mark cameron mods. There is a big difference about someone taking someone's idea and improving it versus taking people's money. But blades is a character no denying it.
But what is going on as far as people out thousands of dollars is not in the same league to me. This kind of behavior pisses me off. The trash talking don't bother me a bit no matter who it comes from. Because that's all it is. Talk. But taking money from people that put trust in you is pretty sad in my opinion.

The problem though is the FN hypocrisy that is BB....he calls out all these other builders, Friedman, Fortin, and even throws Jim Seavall of Scumback in the mix too. Calls them out as 'thieves' and 'con men'....and shame on them for stealing Jose A's designs. What the fuck are you doing Billy?? Oh yeah, the same damn thing. And his recent FB posting prove he's still the same assmunch he's always been. Dude, you and others can spend your money wherever and whenever you want. I have no problem with anyone buying his products, new or used. Your money. But when I see him being defended, I feel the need to put some facts out there because a few of you seem to be on a mission to help poor BB. Its kinda obvious. Again, his amps do sound good, but that's because he cloned a Cameron and they ALL sound good. I wouldn't call him a thief...if I could put that circuit in my 2204 I would. But I definitely call him a trash talking insulting hypocrite.

 

[sleewell2]

And everyone calls blades a thief even though he puts out product and never ripped anyone.

pretty odd and erroneous post. no one has ever called him thief.


hypocrite...

yes.

trashy...

yes...

liar...

yes.

complete idiot for sending out that first amp that looked like hell...

yes.

 

[Mailman1971]

And everyone calls blades a thief even though he puts out product and never ripped anyone.

Since you brought Blades into this, not sure who called him a thief? But I think he's an ass. Oh by the way, his recent FB postings within the last few months prove that all his shit talking hasn't stopped. All the stuff about "oh I've said stuff I regret too"... Clearly Blades is the same assclown he's always been. Not sure why you're trying so hard to defend him??

Not defending him. Just putting out some truth. When he was called a thief for "stealing " mark cameron mods. There is a big difference about someone taking someone's idea and improving it versus taking people's money. But blades is a character no denying it.
But what is going on as far as people out thousands of dollars is not in the same league to me. This kind of behavior pisses me off. The trash talking don't bother me a bit no matter who it comes from. Because that's all it is. Talk. But taking money from people that put trust in you is pretty sad in my opinion.

The problem though is the FN hypocrisy that is BB....he calls out all these other builders, Friedman, Fortin, and even throws Jim Seavall of Scumback in the mix too. Calls them out as 'thieves' and 'con men'....and shame on them for stealing Jose A's designs. What the fuck are you doing Billy?? Oh yeah, the same damn thing. And his recent FB posting prove he's still the same assmunch he's always been. Dude, you and others can spend your money wherever and whenever you want. I have no problem with anyone buying his products, new or used. Your money. But when I see him being defended, I feel the need to put some facts out there because a few of you seem to be on a mission to help poor BB. Its kinda obvious. Again, his amps do sound good, but that's because he cloned a Cameron and they ALL sound good. I wouldn't call him a thief...if I could put that circuit in my 2204 I would. But I definitely call him a trash talking insulting hypocrite.

You got your opinion as well as I do. That's what makes this place good.
But personally if I was him I wouldn't say squat about any other builder. Not professional.

 

[stephen sawall]

They are continuously developing and releasing new products. It has been that way since the company started.

When are they going to quit with these little gadgets and put out a new head? The Pittbull series has remained the same for what now? A decade? I'd like to see a new flag ship head.

Sound City heads were recently released. The Aether has not been out all that long. There is also the work he is doing with Synergy. A new version of the Deliverance and Sig X are being worked on. The LXII power amp....probably others I forgot about.

 

[paulyc]

I asked " the powers that be" ( mods named in red ) why the other thread was deleted and am still waiting for an answer...

Likely because your assertions regarding your friend's issues with Fryette were posted by a third party (you). Not saying there wasn't truth to your post, but anyone could just post some negative stuff about what happened to "their buddy" and it just doesn't carry near as much weight and could be construed as potentially slanderous as all the facts may or may not be 100%.

Again, not saying at all that what you posted was false, but just shedding some potential light on why it was canned.

If your friend had come here and posted it himself with relevant facts I don't think it would have been taken down.

I had posted my buddy's name and his store name in the thread and he asked me to remove it for 48 hours because Fryette contacted him and said he'd " take care of it", my friend agreed to give him 48 hours...I haven't heard from him yet ( store is closed today) if it's resolved or not, but the facts I presented were 100% accurate (as told to me anyway, and my friend has no reason to lie, he's a Fryette dealer BTW). He's just sick of being run around for 3 years, and I don't blame him.

 

[Racerxrated]

And everyone calls blades a thief even though he puts out product and never ripped anyone.

Since you brought Blades into this, not sure who called him a thief? But I think he's an ass. Oh by the way, his recent FB postings within the last few months prove that all his shit talking hasn't stopped. All the stuff about "oh I've said stuff I regret too"... Clearly Blades is the same assclown he's always been. Not sure why you're trying so hard to defend him??

Not defending him. Just putting out some truth. When he was called a thief for "stealing " mark cameron mods. There is a big difference about someone taking someone's idea and improving it versus taking people's money. But blades is a character no denying it.
But what is going on as far as people out thousands of dollars is not in the same league to me. This kind of behavior pisses me off. The trash talking don't bother me a bit no matter who it comes from. Because that's all it is. Talk. But taking money from people that put trust in you is pretty sad in my opinion.

The problem though is the FN hypocrisy that is BB....he calls out all these other builders, Friedman, Fortin, and even throws Jim Seavall of Scumback in the mix too. Calls them out as 'thieves' and 'con men'....and shame on them for stealing Jose A's designs. What the fuck are you doing Billy?? Oh yeah, the same damn thing. And his recent FB posting prove he's still the same assmunch he's always been. Dude, you and others can spend your money wherever and whenever you want. I have no problem with anyone buying his products, new or used. Your money. But when I see him being defended, I feel the need to put some facts out there because a few of you seem to be on a mission to help poor BB. Its kinda obvious. Again, his amps do sound good, but that's because he cloned a Cameron and they ALL sound good. I wouldn't call him a thief...if I could put that circuit in my 2204 I would. But I definitely call him a trash talking insulting hypocrite.

You got your opinion as well as I do. That's what makes this place good.
But personally if I was him I wouldn't say squat about any other builder. Not professional.

If this was all long ago, I'd be more inclined to not say anything. I've posted enough in the past. But he's still ranting and raving, very recently on FB. He's copied Fortin's circuit, and is selling his version of it. Its not just Cameron anymore. Mikes a class act and so is Friedman, I just don't get his beef with any of them. I'd like someone to clone HIS firebolt and then start selling those....a bunch would line up I'd bet. And BB would be out there spitting tacks....

 

[milkchickenbomb]

The real problem with much of this is people made up stories about several of the issues that many now believe is fact.... Completely made up of nothing but speculation.

Is this really the problem? Other than speculation, what is ever going to result from a company accepting money from people and going radio silent? You said that not all 144 customers complained, but don't you think that each and every one of them would "speculate" a little bit as the delivery date came and went? Is there really too little time in the day to update customers? If "speculation" is the problem, why couldn't they have hired some kid like $200 to reply to requests with an accurate depiction of the situation?

When a company has such a following and such a runaway hit like the Power Station and is promising to add new products to their line, yet they are stagnant at 4 employees that can't keep up with current demand, don't take care of customers even with simple communication...well, it really leads one to speculate that Fryette isn't serious about their growth and longevity.

If they want to keep serving customers appropriately, they should license out the Power Station to a company that has the manufacturing capability and customer service that can accommodate consumer demand. That will put some cash in Fryette's pocket, and maybe he can afford to invest in customer service, production, and engineering capability. In CA, it's not like there's a shortage of qualified electrical engineers. And it's not like Freyette's had a problem with selling to larger companies in the past.

I'd really like to own a Power station someday, and I like Fryette products very much. But right now I don't feel all too comfortable with them. They way things are being run, it's just a lot like a business that's on the short road to shuttering its doors.

 

[stephen sawall]

I have already committed on the GPDI issue in this thread. I am referring to people that state things as facts and do not mention they are guessing in what you quoted milkchickenbomb. It has caused many problems. Many of them can be found in the TGP thread that is linked in this thread. All of the new products that have been introduced by Fryette since the GPDI was made pubic were made public a year or more before the GPDI. How do you know they are not doing what you suggested above ?

 

[rottingcorpse]

I certainly understand people's trepidation with companies that have poor communication skills with those whom use(or in my case love)their products. I also understand people whom may or may not have invested in a crowd sourced product being frustrated by long wait times AND lack of communication. And I understand the rampant speculation that happens because of the Internet allowing people to throw in their two cents on every subject regardless of his/hers knowledge level of said subject.

That said,I wish nothing but good for Fryette and his company. I love his products,and have had good experiences with the company's product support line. And while I have never had the phone line answered when I have called,they always got back to me and I was always able to get the parts/service I needed.

If they are having issues,I have faith they are trying to do the right thing. Good luck to them,I hope he keeps designing the products that consistently amaze me.

 

[milkchickenbomb]

Well, it's clear that they aren't investing in customer support, but you are right, I don't know that they are not licensing their designs or trying to expand their workforce and capacity. It would be great if that's the case, but using the number of staff people as an excuse repeatedly suggests that they either are not doing it, or they aren't doing it well.

Don't get me wrong, I wish them huge success. But delivering is doing to be the keystone of that success. I really hope they are on the precipice of delivering.

 

[jc986]

I asked " the powers that be" ( mods named in red ) why the other thread was deleted and am still waiting for an answer...

Likely because your assertions regarding your friend's issues with Fryette were posted by a third party (you). Not saying there wasn't truth to your post, but anyone could just post some negative stuff about what happened to "their buddy" and it just doesn't carry near as much weight and could be construed as potentially slanderous as all the facts may or may not be 100%.

Again, not saying at all that what you posted was false, but just shedding some potential light on why it was canned.

If your friend had come here and posted it himself with relevant facts I don't think it would have been taken down.

I had posted my buddy's name and his store name in the thread and he asked me to remove it for 48 hours because Fryette contacted him and said he'd " take care of it", my friend agreed to give him 48 hours...I haven't heard from him yet ( store is closed today) if it's resolved or not, but the facts I presented were 100% accurate (as told to me anyway, and my friend has no reason to lie, he's a Fryette dealer BTW). He's just sick of being run around for 3 years, and I don't blame him.

Like I said, what you posted may very well be true and if I were the affected party I'd be pretty pissed too, but seeing as what you posted was just based off of what someone told you that you don't have all the intimate details of, that's where legally it could be construed as slander. There's no way for you to know and verify that what you posted was 100% true, and the post itself was designed to damage Fryette's reputation.

If I were a Fryette dealer that was owed money by Fryette and they were continually dodging my legitimate contacts, I would have pursued legal options well before approaching the 3 year mark.