Gear just ain't moving eh?

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Not gear related, but I bought something for $20 from someone on craigslist today on my way to work. I pull up next to the dudes car, and he's on his phone. I look at him and give him the "sup" head nod....nothing. So I get out of my car and look at him, keep in mind it's raining, and he finally waves. So I go over to his car, his window is down, he's still on his phone, and the thing I bought is sitting on his dash near the window. Dude still doesn't say anything, so I pick the thing up, check it out and hand him my $20... Where do these people come from?


But anyway back to the topic of gear sales. I think the biggest problem is that people buy shit that they can't afford at the time they buy it. I've done this several times, but if I do I always use interest free credit. That gives me several months to sit on my gear because I know when I sell it it'll pay for what I just bought. I bought a Rhodes Colossus a couple months ago, and I needed to sell my JP to pay for most of it. I put the Rhodes on a credit card that had no interest for 18 months, and I sat on the JP at my price for a month until it sold. I could have and would have waited longer if I needed to until someone wanted my guitar at my price, which I though was fair at $2k for that top/color.

At the same time there was a guy selling a JP who had his for like $2400 or something. It was overpriced, but the dude legit dropped it like a grand in one week. Who the hell does that? That's where all these low ballers, and the I want shit for free mentality comes from on guitar forums. Now that dude could have had an emergency or whatever to pay for, but shit like that happens all of the time. People are not having consistent medical emergencies lol. They're buying shit with no way to pay for it, or their car, rent, whatever, and so they need to move their gear instantly to make some kind of payment.

If more people stuck to their prices we wouldn't have this problem, but so many people just want to move stuff that they blow up the value of used gear.
 
Everyone psychologically just wants to feel like they got a deal. In most stores, everything is pretty much on sale all the time now. I just saw an advertisement for "Spring Black Friday" just the other day, and every store is starting to get in on it.. wtf!?

Cheap equipment just doesn't hold its value, it's simple as that. As others have said, put it back to stock and sell the upgrades separately.

Anyway, for selling instruments, I add about 15% to the price that I really want to get. That way when he inevitably offers you less, you get the money you wanted, and you let the other guy go home and jerk off all over himself because he got a "deal".
 
On The Gear Page all you get are trade offers for crap you've never heard of. On Craig's list its scammers and low ballers.

I was selling Mesa 2x12 and some guy emails me and he sounds all excited to buy my cab. I was selling for $350 and his gracious off was $100. I told him I'd unload ONE Vintage 30 and let him have that for $100.....then he hung up on me. Assholes!
 
The used market definitely blows. but when someone says their price is firm, you really should respect that. I have only done that a few times, when I just wouldn't accept less because it was already priced low. It really did torque me off when people still low balled me.
 
danyeo":2u0f9bv2 said:
On The Gear Page all you get are trade offers for crap you've never heard of. On Craig's list its scammers and low ballers.

I was selling Mesa 2x12 and some guy emails me and he sounds all excited to buy my cab. I was selling for $350 and his gracious off was $100. I told him I'd unload ONE Vintage 30 and let him have that for $100.....then he hung up on me. Assholes!

:lol: :LOL:

I had a MIJ DK2 on CL for $350. Dude sends me a text offering $200, and I said can you do like $300? Response was something like "Ha no way buddy, I was doing you a favor by offering $200. You won't even get that for your "Jap Job"... sold it like a week later for $350.
 
Looks like i'm in the minority having a fairly positive craigslist experience for the past 10 years or so...you need to expect some haggling unless you state your price is firm, and you need to expect trade offers unless you state otherwise. Don't like the offer? Don't respond, simple.
 
Yeah I don't get into bitching arguments. I had to a bunch of time keep my finger off the send button with an "FU" in the body.
Plus I don't want to piss off the wrong person, then they find out where I live and come here and I get arrested for shooting them.

So I try to remain calm and realize it's just folks fishing and trying to get a deal.

So I reduced the bass by $40, if it doesn't sell, I'll just throw it in the closet with all the other shit I am sick of looking at.
 
billsbigego":2wf6x338 said:
Yeah I don't get into bitching arguments. I had to a bunch of time keep my finger off the send button with an "FU" in the body.
Plus I don't want to piss off the wrong person, then they find out where I live and come here and I get arrested for shooting them.

So I try to remain calm and realize it's just folks fishing and trying to get a deal.

So I reduced the bass by $40, if it doesn't sell, I'll just throw it in the closet with all the other shit I am sick of looking at.
As soon as you do that you'll have people tripping over themselves trying to buy it from you. :D
 
gtrplr71":161o9sd7 said:
It is the economy in general. But the squire name in general has a bit of a stigma. change it back to original and sell the rest of the parts. tell "them Cheap Fucks" to meet you at Wal-Mart and then beat there ass with it if it makes you feel better. You ever had your ass beat with a inexpensive guitar it probably feels as solid as an expensive one.

:hys: Man!!!!! Did I need a good laugh. Thanks for providing!
 
billsbigego":5wd2ye04 said:
I get people asking me to come pick them up, bring them to my place to check out the instrument. Seriously. That guy was 50 miles from me too. I told him sure. Round trip fare is $100

I get people that email me "hey man, got no car."

I'm at the point where I've weeded out all the losers in my life. If you're 30-40 and you've got no car, go fuck yourself I don't want to deal with you. Heh, I'm on a tear today. Got a work bonus and the gubmt stole 1/2 of it. Pretty pissed off.

Lol this is so fucking stupid. They want to go for a ride with you instead of you bringing the axe to them, just so you can make an extra trip? That's a whole new level right there!
 
The market definitely sucks ass. I have a near perfect 2004 Jackson Soloist for sale here for 1,200$, shipped 2 day air with fedex. Been up on Rigtalk for a month with no luck or really any interest At all. It's a 9.9 out of 10. Take away the shipping cost and PayPal fee and Im walking away with a tad over a grand. Pathetic. The funny thing is I could take it down to guitar center and they will give me a thousand for it, then put it up for sale for 1,700$ Or better. You know it's bad out there when you can sell your guitar to guitar center for more money than what people will pay in a private sale.
Buying guitars and musical gear has got to be one of the worst purchases you can make nowadays with your hard earned dollar. Thinking about collecting baseball cards or stamps. Got to be better investment call than this shit!!
 
Bluplirst":3i92jvuq said:
billsbigego":3i92jvuq said:
I get people asking me to come pick them up, bring them to my place to check out the instrument. Seriously. That guy was 50 miles from me too. I told him sure. Round trip fare is $100

I get people that email me "hey man, got no car."

I'm at the point where I've weeded out all the losers in my life. If you're 30-40 and you've got no car, go fuck yourself I don't want to deal with you. Heh, I'm on a tear today. Got a work bonus and the gubmt stole 1/2 of it. Pretty pissed off.

Lol this is so fucking stupid. They want to go for a ride with you instead of you bringing the axe to them, just so you can make an extra trip? That's a whole new level right there!


Yes, I forget the fact that this is providing me with good entertainment. The IDIOT bar just keeps getting raised higher.

That was because the guy did not have an amp. LOL. Probably had to pay fines for the last DWI so he had to sell his amp. This is the type of people that frequent CL it seems. 1/2 of the people I talk with have no license, no vehicle.
 
gtrplr71":175stsof said:
It is the economy in general. But the squire name in general has a bit of a stigma. change it back to original and sell the rest of the parts. tell "them Cheap Fucks" to meet you at Wal-Mart and then beat there ass with it if it makes you feel better. You ever had your ass beat with a inexpensive guitar it probably feels as solid as an expensive one.
:lol: :LOL:
 
I have good luck at The Gear Page, just sold a head/cab and a amp last week.
Did I take a hit, of course!
It's the reality of the situation.
IMO people want way too much for used gear so drop your prices and quit bitching ;)
Think twice before you buy something and do some research and buy stuff that moves
or shut the hell up :gethim:
You just have to accept the fact that the buyer is the cat in the birds seat.
 
billsbigego":4my4fc4l said:
Well to me, I look at it like this.

If you're average CL Cheap Fuck went and bought that new, and put upgraded tuners on it, they would be out $300 or so. The stock tuners are basically absolute shit. I know they don't look at it that way.

But I'm not losing my shirt on the thing. I'm tired of it, that is giving cheap fucks deals. I start thinking about fists and broken teeth when I think about it. I always give people what they ask. I don't haggle. I make good money and don't have to. I'm not desperate to sell it, so buy mine or don't bother me and go buy a new one.

Mine is basically brand new.

I know I might come off as a bit unreasonable. But I'm at a point in my life where I've wasted a lot of money on gear and I'm sick of eating it.

Fists and broken teeth?

You don't come off as unreasonable, you come off like a fucking retard.

In all seriousness, your attitude is shit; if you don't like an offer, fucking ignore the offer, don't be a jackass.

I guaran-fucking-tee you wouldn't run your mouth like that in person; stop doing it from behind a keyboard.

You're talking about a $200-$300 guitar...seriously?
 
jcj":3lqt809q said:
billsbigego":3lqt809q said:
Well to me, I look at it like this.

If you're average CL Cheap Fuck went and bought that new, and put upgraded tuners on it, they would be out $300 or so. The stock tuners are basically absolute shit. I know they don't look at it that way.

But I'm not losing my shirt on the thing. I'm tired of it, that is giving cheap fucks deals. I start thinking about fists and broken teeth when I think about it. I always give people what they ask. I don't haggle. I make good money and don't have to. I'm not desperate to sell it, so buy mine or don't bother me and go buy a new one.

Mine is basically brand new.

I know I might come off as a bit unreasonable. But I'm at a point in my life where I've wasted a lot of money on gear and I'm sick of eating it.

Fists and broken teeth?

You don't come off as unreasonable, you come off like a fucking retard.

In all seriousness, your attitude is shit; if you don't like an offer, fucking ignore the offer, don't be a jackass.

I guaran-fucking-tee you wouldn't run your mouth like that in person; stop doing it from behind a keyboard.

You're talking about a $200-$300 guitar...seriously?

+1! :lol: :LOL:
 
Jay Strange":1thes19e said:
I have good luck at The Gear Page, just sold a head/cab and a amp last week.
Did I take a hit, of course!
It's the reality of the situation.
IMO people want way too much for used gear so drop your prices and quit bitching ;)
Think twice before you buy something and do some research and buy stuff that moves
or shut the hell up :gethim:
You just have to accept the fact that the buyer is the cat in the birds seat.

+1

The amount of money invested in a piece of gear is not relevant to the buyer. Never was and never will. As a seller you have to look at comparable stuff and see what it SOLD for, not what someones asking price is. I can't get rid of my JMP-1 right now for $400, yet there are 6 others on Ebay for $500 and up. I wish it were different but its not.
 
billsbigego":2vh8ojvn said:
WTF? Never seen it so bad.

Cheap fucks, offer me $120 for a Squier bass I have on CL for $200. I always put my bottom line price. FIRM. These fuckers can't read it seems.

Now let me know if I'm off base here. I paid $190 for the squire bass new, about 2 months ago. I needed it to finish up a few recordings as we're down a bass player. I put a hipshot bridge and tuners on it, which was about $130 in upgrades. So I'm not desperate for cash, unlike all the cheap fucks out there, so I priced it what I thought was reasonable. The thing is basically brand new. This fuck starts saying I put hubcaps on a piece of shit and the pickups suck.

I have other shit on there too, priced reasonable, sick of losing my shirt to vultures.

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Firewood.....
 
People can't even spell SQUIER properly (even on here), you can't expect them to read your ad correctly.

Seriously, why can't people read the headstock? Do they think Fender goofed, and just let it go for 30 years? It puzzles me.
 
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