Good guitarrists with bad tone.

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wizardy":2i5i0x7d said:
saw megadeth / slayer / testament live a few months ago

best tone was from Kerry King from Slayer
Jeff Hanneman tone sucked.

megadeth chris broderick had cool solo tone (thanks axe-fx) but his rhythm sucked.
Dave Mustaine tone was shit overall.
Sounded muddy and not enough gain, not punchy..

testament was fair.
Weird :confused: I'm a major Slayer fanboy and the last 2 times I have seen them their guitar tone was shit :thumbsdown: . Megadeths' guitar tone sounded 10x better than Slayers when I saw them a few months ago.
 
I'd have to agree with a few that have already mentioned it. Paul Gilbert. AMAZING player (obviously) not as amazing tone.
 
The Hoff":2anem4ek said:
I'd have to agree with a few that have already mentioned it. Paul Gilbert. AMAZING player (obviously) not as amazing tone.
Love the Friedman VS Gilbert stuff.......

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MisterBulbous":dpfacgvu said:
The usual responses...but I'll go with steve morse and steve Howe. Victims of bad production would be alex skolnick on the early testament albums and George lynch before lock and key (although I think greasygeo will disagree).
Yeah Steve Morse has some pretty strange distortion tones. I like the first two Dokken records, not so much when he went to the Rockman. I like the first two Ozzy records too...S.A.T.O is very cool.

My contribution to good gtr with bad tone would be the mudfest of Jake E Lee. Blech!
 
OldSkoolNJ":23otqyuo said:
Heritage Softail":23otqyuo said:

Here you can use these for that and wiping your mouth after licking the sweat off his nut sack



Fuck off....

Rhodes had a great sound. Detractors can come out with something better and show us how it's done. Millions of CD's sold on the side of RR sounding great..... Someone may not like RR sound, but to say it was bad? That is just one of those 'Really?' moments.
 
Dimebag had excellent tone, but it was a sound that could only work for him and his particular style.
 
Heritage Softail":1ku87dvm said:
OldSkoolNJ":1ku87dvm said:
Heritage Softail":1ku87dvm said:

Here you can use these for that and wiping your mouth after licking the sweat off his nut sack


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The only Really? Moment here is your Reading Comprehension problem and failure to recognize All of the "Detractors" like his playing, still listen to him, and are still influenced by him regardless of what the opinion is of what he sounds like,
Hence the title of this thread.. :yes: :thumbsup:
 
Clapton, Page, RR, Steve Morris, or even Steely Dan have bad tones? Huh :confused: They all have different tones that fit their songs. The lead tone on the Steely Dan albums sounds kinda nasally but fits with the style and songs. Do you want all guitarist to have the same tone? How many on here try to cop Metallic "ride the lightning" or "master of puppets" tone? Its nice that every album sounds different, too me atleast.

Even when I write songs (and I am nobody) I go for different tone settings and guitars so each song doesnt sound the same. I purposely try to get an odd tone that stands out with some trks to bring out certain leads or rhythm.

I look at some of those tones they are getting more like "Wow wonder how they came up with that" instead of that sucks lol
 
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Heritage Softail":2rim2r58 said:
Tone is totally subjective. Those guys that are selling tens of thousands of records/CD's are connecting with lots of people. Some may not like the tone but many many others do. Rhodes was a great guitarist and did the most with what he had back then.

I would imagine those slagging on Rhodes could not wipe the sweat off his nut sack when it comes to the great songs written and millions of fans world wide. That guitar sound ruled the rock/metal world back then. Anyone that picked up a guitar back then wanted to play that riff to Crazy Train. That tone/sound did not suck. It totally rocked. Trashing it comes across as somewhat arrogant posturing by botique gear cork sniffers. Opinions vary, but what have you done that is universally loved? Someone is not going to like it, no matter how perfect you try to make it. Is sure does not mean it is weak.

And Hendrix???? That terrible tone in Hey Joe turned the music world upside down the day it came out.

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I can't imagine any of the classic rock recordings with different guitar tones. That's what it was. It's a part of the song, artist and time period (in some cases).
 
Chubtone":2ulee4x4 said:
Incorrect. Max Norman was a crappy recording engineer in 1981. If you think this was bad tone for 1981, you don't remember 1981. What do you think Ted Templeman could have done with this more accurate representation of Randy's real tone? It would have been SICK! Because live, it was huge.

Hey Curt, I totally agree. Lucky for us that Max "learned" HOW to capture that classic Marshall GRINDAGE
see 2:03 - FUCKING BLAZING!

Lee Jackson Marshalls - MY benchmark sound for many years.
 
OldSkoolNJ":17285hqp said:
Motorpud":17285hqp said:
Tawlks":17285hqp said:
OldSkoolNJ":17285hqp said:
Randy Rhoads
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Blizzard of OZ and Diary sound like they were recorded with a Line 6 spider combo or distortion pedal plugged directly into the board.. :lol: :LOL: :aww:

True story. For some reason, we all like it though?..... :confused: Must be the PLAYING.....
 
Chubtone":1cv5c3p7 said:
OldSkoolNJ":1cv5c3p7 said:
Like I said Blizzard of OZ and Diary Sound like shit..
Reminds me of the tubestack knob on the gorilla amps.. :lol: :LOL:

And like I have argued from one end of the internet to the other :D , Randy did not have bad tone for that era as proven by the live clips. His tone was poorly represented on those records by the studios house engineer who was still learning his craft at that point but was all Ozzy could afford. I don't think we can blame that on Randy having bad tone.

And I think Diary sounded pretty cool.
I agree to a point...a lot of his tracks could have sounded better. That said, I can't imagine the opening riffs to Crazy Train or Flying High Again sounding any cooler than they do on those albums. When the heavy guitar kicks in on the track Diary of a Madman it sounds great to me...maybe its just that I'm so used to those tones since Randy was my inspiration to take playing seriously and I wore those albums out (I still play them on a regular basis).

As for bad tone, Frank Gambale's first 3 solo albums may be the worst I've ever heard...especially Thunder From Down Under.
 
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