Hermansson 5GS Marshall x Wizard MCII

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For me it's the other way around, getting a Hermansson would be significantly cheaper, still not cheap though. I have MTL MKII which I really like but miss the Marshall sag and mids sometimes. Rhythm channel is very reminiscent of a JMP, I really like it and find another amp that does the thing better. Ground Zero Helion III seems very tempting as well (not sure about how much does it cost though).
Just to make your pocket more empty, I sold my MTL for my Hellion lol.

At the end of the day I think they're all fantastic amps and it's more just about finding the one with the right voicing since they all have gobs of gain and punch.
 
Just to make your pocket more empty, I sold my MTL for my Hellion lol.

At the end of the day I think they're all fantastic amps and it's more just about finding the one with the right voicing since they all have gobs of gain and punch.
Well if I get a Helion III and like it more, will sell my MTL MKII for sure. For now I just cannot think of selling it; it's the best amp I have ever played and has so many tonal options. I do not play downtuned modern metal (Drop C lowest) so not sure about Hermansson, seems to be more suitable for extended settings, at least in the Youtube demos.
 
Well if I get a Helion III and like it more, will sell my MTL MKII for sure. For now I just cannot think of selling it; it's the best amp I have ever played and has so many tonal options. I do not play downtuned modern metal (Drop C lowest) so not sure about Hermansson, seems to be more suitable for extended settings, at least in the Youtube demos.
I tend to use standard or drop d with my Hermansson, and have never gone lower than drop c.

Not really a problem at all, again just a question of what voicing are you after.
 
I am really considering to buy a Hermansson. How do you compare them with Wizards overall? My ideal next amp would be Wizard W800 or Rock Standard but cannot justify buying them new. Gettin a Hermansson is way easier / affordable for me
Compare them here. Hermansson Marshalls are definitely not just for extended range and covers all ground. Hermansson Mesas are more for the Meshuggah 7/8 string territory. If you already have the MTL then you are good to go tbh. At this level we are basically debating slight different flavors of things.
 
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Compare them here. Hermansson Marshalls are definitely not just for extended range and covers all ground. Hermansson Mesas are more for the Meshuggah 7/8 string territory. If you already have the MTL then you are good to go tbh. At this level we are basically debating slight different flavors of things.

Man this Hell Razor sounds so good here! I also watched your recent MTL MKII vs Hell Razor video, they sound more similar than different to be honest. Still, shocked how much punch the HR carries. I hope I will have a chance to try one someday. Do you have any tips for MTL to make it sound closer to HR?
 
Well if I get a Helion III and like it more, will sell my MTL MKII for sure. For now I just cannot think of selling it; it's the best amp I have ever played and has so many tonal options. I do not play downtuned modern metal (Drop C lowest) so not sure about Hermansson, seems to be more suitable for extended settings, at least in the Youtube demos.
Hermansson makes great amps. I’ve had a few. But for me they too fizzy on the high end. I can’t unhear it.
 
Were yours Marshall or Mesa donor amps?
Have had a Laney PA build, Marshall build and a Mesa dual rec rev F mod. The first two he built for me in maybe 2013 (before the 3GS and 5GS) and the Mesa for maybe 5 years ago
 
Have had a Laney PA build, Marshall build and a Mesa dual rec rev F mod. The first two he built for me in maybe 2013 (before the 3GS and 5GS) and the Mesa for maybe 5 years ago
Whoa; that's quite the collection. With how he records things "in the room" it's hard to grasp how they'd sound exactly under a mic etc.
I've a buddy who had a Trem-o-Verb modded by Hermansson; I always thought that amp sounded sick but only heard phone recordings of it, never had the pleasure to experience it in person.
 
Whoa; that's quite the collection. With how he records things "in the room" it's hard to grasp how they'd sound exactly under a mic etc.
I've a buddy who had a Trem-o-Verb modded by Hermansson; I always thought that amp sounded sick but only heard phone recordings of it, never had the pleasure to experience it in person.
This video of mine is through a recorded context with the Hermansson versus in the room.
 
Man this Hell Razor sounds so good here! I also watched your recent MTL MKII vs Hell Razor video, they sound more similar than different to be honest. Still, shocked how much punch the HR carries. I hope I will have a chance to try one someday. Do you have any tips for MTL to make it sound closer to HR?
The HR definitely has more punch, more gain, and can get way tighter then the MTL. Mids also sit different which could come more down to the KT88s on the HR vs MTL has EL34s. MTL sounds more like a Marshall with more high mids while HR sounds like its own thing with more low mids.
 
Sounds awesome here actually!
Yeah you can remove all the fizz that you normally hear. Henric uses Greenbacks on his demos and has the settings setup to do a lot of the harmonic highs content in the tone. The hair, mid, low-mid, deep switches allows you to get rid of all that fizz. Extremely versatile with the six three-way switches.
 
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The HR definitely has more punch, more gain, and can get way tighter then the MTL. Mids also sit different which could come more down to the KT88s on the HR vs MTL has EL34s. MTL sounds more like a Marshall with more high mids while HR sounds like its own thing with more low mids.
Rhythm channel of MTL is very underrated. I can get superb JCM/JMP type of tones from it. Here is a short recording of Them Bones. Rhythm channel boosted with Leopard:



A dream setup would be a Wizard W800 and a HR, for different purposes.
 
Rhythm channel of MTL is very underrated. I can get superb JCM/JMP type of tones from it. Here is a short recording of Them Bones. Rhythm channel boosted with Leopard:



A dream setup would be a Wizard W800 and a HR, for different purposes.

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