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Nigel
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I don't understand the kerfuffle.
I finally found out what the pot behind van halen VH1 does (it wasn't a master at all)
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VonBonfire
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jabps
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I'm may be wrong but @Amp_chaser comes across as this is the "definitive" of what EVH did and that might rub people the wrong way. When the fact is nobody is every going to know exactly what or if he did anything to that amp. And now, all the parties have passed. The rest is just hearsay.
What we do know is that there are plenty of guys who cop EVH tones without modded amps using the same equipment EVH used. And we know several techs ala Dave F. etc... that have been in the amp say there was no mods, and if there had been they had been long removed which just leads back to hearsay.
That said more power to @Amp_chaser if he enjoys doing this, everybody needs a hobby.
Exo-metal
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True but don't start a thread with a title like this and explain/share nothing and remain secretive. It's pure unadulterated douchery.
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VonBonfire
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I revealed the way to get the true Eddie tone a few days back and almost nobody cared. No secrets, no amp mods, just the right set of kicks. Good luck getting that full Eddie tone without a pair of these:
DanTravis62
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It's because he does this every couple of weeks
"GUYS I FIGURED OUT THE ULTRA SOOPER DOOPER SECRET TOAN OF VH1"
And it's always something that has been disproved 15 years ago
everyone on earth who has ever been inside the amp has said it was stock, and everyone who has ever played a cranked marshall superlead through some greenbacks and doesn't blow dog diarrhea at guitar knows it, indeed, was a stock plexi
most of the artifacting and extra compression are from redlining the tape and analog comps in mixdown and you aren't going to get that from a magic modification to a superlead
Rackman
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The reality is there's a wide range of gear (and footwear) that sounds as much like VHI as Eddie did on any given day. Just listen to those room mics and board recordings...
Rackman
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Yup, plus some Pultec in there. It's a good formula, but it won't make guitar players happy, that's for sure. Although there's nothing stopping you from putting a Pulteq in your rack.
DanTravis62
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Yep you could theoretically get much closer to his later slaved racked up tone, and that would be legit and quite a bit less involved
Unless you have the pultecs, the room, the board, and whatever mastering gear was used, you arent going to get a tone like that coming from an amp
It's a misunderstanding of how tone works, period - especially with roomy, old school recordings like that
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VonBonfire
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harddriver
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Friedman has seen that Voltacontrol mod in Jose's, it's not really a secret in 2026. It looks like an adjustable gain stage on the extra 12ax7 that Jose added sometimes. If it was anything worthwhile I imagine Dave would have included it in his Jose Arrendondo Tribute amp.
If the OP likes what it does so be it, have some fun but to make the statement that this is what the pot on the back was in just conjecture. Where's the extra preamp tube on Ed's Marshall's for the 78-79 tour. None of them have it in all the pics Mr. Ampchaser has posted from the 78 tour.
Jacob Deraps can gets this tone from a stock Marshall SV20/Germino/Marshall SLP plexi reissue because he plays like Eddie. Anyone else is going to need or want a gain adding crutch to replace that fire and attack. Amp chaser in his last post took our advice and installed an RT mod and got a great VH tone as we told him it would but at least he didn't try to claim Ed was using an RT mod in 1978.
You either have the ears to hear what the studio room mic clips of Ed's amp during VH1 recording tells you or you don't or won't and that's ok too.
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rsm
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so, it's a JCM 900 with diode clipping (not a SL-X).
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