I finally found out what the pot behind van halen VH1 does (it wasn't a master at all)

[Fusionbear]

I'm amazed that after 50 years people are still chasing this dragon....

My advice while I yell at clouds is simple.

Same as the Zappa album: "shut up and play yer guitar!"

 

[Stradazone]

Erik Estrada is a favorite of mine. CHiPS was my favorite show as a young kid.

Sorry not related

 

[jchrisf]

I'm amazed that after 50 years people are still chasing this dragon....

My advice while I yell at clouds is simple.

Same as the Zappa album: "shut up and play yer guitar!"

And you even worked for Jose back in the day.. I'm surprised they aren't asking you about it.

 

[VonBonfire]

I'm amazed that after 50 years people are still chasing this dragon....

My advice while I yell at clouds is simple.

Same as the Zappa album: "shut up and play yer guitar!"

It's the same thing with SRV tone. Tens of thousands of bucks in pedals, a half dozen amps, eight or nine strats later and they still can't find it. Meanwhile anyone with chops can use a random 3sc strat with a thick-ish set of string and any number of Fender or Marshall amps and a tubescreamer clone and the same "can't find it" dudes will be talking about how they saw a guy at a club "nAiLiNg tHoSe sTeViE tOaNz".

 

[VonBonfire]

And you even worked for Jose back in the day.. I'm surprised they aren't asking you about it.

Fusionbear left it all behind to pursue a career in neo-soul shred guitar.

 

[jchrisf]

Fusionbear left it all behind to pursue a career in neo-soul shred guitar.

And a Fractal FM9!

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

When i get this obsessed about something, it usually has a vagina attached to it

 

[VonBonfire]

And a Fractal FM9!

As much as I hate digital gear Carl's cheerful and fun loving attitude render me able to only think good things about him. It took some time but I totally forgave him for not building me a single channel Twin Reverb head.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

As much as I hate digital gear Carl's cheerful and fun loving attitude render me able to only think good things about him. It took some time but I totally forgave him for not building me a single channel Twin Reverb head.

Now this is something that would get me into a fender. I have no idea why the twin has so many channels

 

[thegame]

Erik Estrada is a favorite of mine. CHiPS was my favorite show as a young kid.

I preferred Grossman and Lt. Gutrayer

 

[VonBonfire]

Now this is something that would get me into a fender. I have no idea why the twin has so many channels

You just move your plug to the channel you want to use.

 

[VonBonfire]

I preferred Grossman and Lt. Gutrayer

Ponch got all the girls tho!!!

 

[thegame]

Ponch got all the girls tho!!!

He got all the ghouls too

 

[VonBonfire]

He got all the ghouls too

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Had no idea Gene Simmons made a guest appearance on CHiPS.

 

[4406cuda]

I remember reading about Nugent playing through Ed’s gear. It didn’t sound the same as when Ed played through it.

 

[Racerxrated]

I used to think Ed's amp was modded. Until I got a late 68/early 69 SL. Once I removed the 1 wire mod, and dimed it.....then I understood. Totally stock, there it was...early VH tone. Right there.
No more questions from me.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

At the end of the day, it's not hard to get scary close to Ed's early sound.

The guitar sounds on VH1 and Balance are night and day. Same guy. Sounded different with different gear.

I don't (and can't) play like Ed, but I enjoy hearing what I sound like through an early VH sounding setup.

Decades ago, I was at a King's X gig. A roadie walked onstage wearing Ty's Elite Strat. Dude hit a D chord and there it was, Ty's magic massive tone.

It's hands and gear AFAIC.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

I'm amazed that after 50 years people are still chasing this dragon....

My advice while I yell at clouds is simple.

Same as the Zappa album: "shut up and play yer guitar!"

Well, that sound reshaped what we thought was possible back in the 70's. I was 16 when VH1 came out on February 10, 1978 and it hit us like a nuclear explosion.

No one had a tone like that. No one but Ed. That sound is part of the reason I play guitar. I don't know how to sound like Ed, but I've never heard a better tone. Gary Moore even said you couldn't ask for a better sound than what's on VH1. It's not a bad benchmark. LOL

Having said that, I love the sounds I get out of my gear nowadays (especially after @JackBootedThug hooked me up with a 10-band EQ pedal), so life is good.

 

[jchrisf]

I chased the "Brown Sound" when I first got into guitar because it was the thing to do.. but when I started getting close to it, I realized I don't like it for my own tone. I found I'm more of a JCM 800 with SD-1 kinda guy... there's lots of options for this tone... too much really.

 

[harddriver]

I'm amazed that after 50 years people are still chasing this dragon....

My advice while I yell at clouds is simple.

Same as the Zappa album: "shut up and play yer guitar!"

I'm not surprised as it's a great tone that has stood the test of time. It's great a younger generation is as enamored with the early VH tone as we were when we were kids or teens when we heard it.

Having been down the road that Ampchaser is on I understand the desire to hear what we hear on the album but the closest anyone is going to get is with just the amps live dry tone cause that's what we hear on the live 78 tour and what the amp actually sounded like on those studio room mic clips without Don Landee's magic JAPE and studio prowess. If your amp sounds like Eds live tones and you use something like the UA OX box with the Sunset sound effects that is a close as anyone is going to get tonewise. The rest is the fire and fury attack playing of a young and hungry Edward Van Halen. Amazingly the Toneex 78/79 package captures that tone and digitally no less with the right delays and reverbs which is imperative for those album tones. I don't know why he can't or won't accept the realities of the amp's live tones versus recorded tones.

Mr. Ampchaser is taking excerpts out of context in that Jose interview as Jose was talking about the custom prototype amp he did build for Edward but as far as I know no one has ever seen it let alone heard it play and it was a completely different amp than 12301. I wonder if Dave Friedman knows anything about that prototype Jose that Ed had? The fact of the matter is Ed lost his magic 12301 in the summer of 78 on the Japan leg of the tour and he replaced his personal amps with standard Marshall SLP's and other plexi's for the rest of the tour into December of 1978 where he stated in interviews that's when Pan Am found and returned his amps and his tone was just as spectacular without his personal amps.....the live bootleg recordings and films do not lie. Mr Ampchaser has stated he doesn't think Ed's live tone sounds like VH1, and of course he correct due to Mr Landee's handiwork.