I Just Got Fucked By Paypal AND Reverb Big Time UPDATED

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ive actually had quite good experiences with pay doing the 'right' thing in the two instances that i had issues as a seller and buyer - i DID speak with them directly on the phone so i highly suggest that
 
I just heard that Cam/Kam/Royal Brit yelled at the amp tech for two minutes because I'm trying to help out SR with this deal. Unf*ckingbelievable. I'm getting cussed out for doing the right thing, while this POS is purposely trying to screw SR over and thinks he's golden. What a douchenozzle.
 
Scumback Speakers":1125af4u said:
I just heard that Cam/Kam/Royal Brit yelled at the amp tech for two minutes because I'm trying to help out SR with this deal. Unf*ckingbelievable. I'm getting cussed out for doing the right thing, while this POS is purposely trying to screw SR over and thinks he's golden. What a douchenozzle.
Whoa, seriously?
 
Scumback Speakers":1o7y7n80 said:
I just heard that Cam/Kam/Royal Brit yelled at the amp tech for two minutes because I'm trying to help out SR with this deal. Unf*ckingbelievable. I'm getting cussed out for doing the right thing, while this POS is purposely trying to screw SR over and thinks he's golden. What a douchenozzle.


He actually brought that perfectly good working amp to a tech? wow..
 
lespaul6":12ohfsyd said:
He actually brought that perfectly good working amp to a tech? wow..

Apparently not, which considering what his "not as described" complaint is (not really a 50w amp or whatever) to PayPal, you'd think he would have since he was already there.

Cam/Kam/Royal Brit has someone watching this thread or is a member at RT, by the way. So if you have any kind words for this douchenozzle, by all means, let them fly. Later, when SR uses this discussion thread in his appeal, it may come in handy.

Sorry, C/K/RB/DN...you asked for this one, you lying POS.
 
I still don't see the end game here. Are we expecting he will send a box of rocks to appease the return shipping complete status so Paypal releases his refund?

I hate to say it, but I have to imagine PayPal can't really use anyone else's previous experiences in consideration or as any kind of evidence.
I know how sickening this all is. I plunked down $1500 for a custom guitar that never happened. No guitar, no cash back...long story, but I get it. And that was all local.
 
The end game, I think, is to get the amp back without damage, modifications, and to not pay for the shipping to Kam and back on the seller's dime, just because the buyer wanted to try it out, lie to PayPal in his claim/dispute, and be a jerk.

Or at least that's what I'd be looking for. It appears the buyer was never going to actually buy it. He told others he "rented it from a studio"...a complete and total line of BS.

The other facet of this is to expose this guy for being the dishonest buyer he is, so maybe his online rep will be permanently marked as doing business like this so other sellers can avoid him.
 
Scumback Speakers":2qggtlc5 said:
lespaul6":2qggtlc5 said:
He actually brought that perfectly good working amp to a tech? wow..

Apparently not, which considering what his "not as described" complaint is (not really a 50w amp or whatever) to PayPal, you'd think he would have since he was already there.

Cam/Kam/Royal Brit has someone watching this thread or is a member at RT, by the way. So if you have any kind words for this douchenozzle, by all means, let them fly. Later, when SR uses this discussion thread in his appeal, it may come in handy.

Sorry, C/K/RB/DN...you asked for this one, you lying POS.
He doesn't have the balls to come here and say anything. Guy is a straight up lying POS coward.
 
Scumback Speakers":31g6np4t said:
The end game, I think, is to get the amp back without damage, modifications, and to not pay for the shipping to Kam and back on the seller's dime, just because the buyer wanted to try it out, lie to PayPal in his claim/dispute, and be a jerk.

Or at least that's what I'd be looking for. It appears the buyer was never going to actually buy it. He told others he "rented it from a studio"...a complete and total line of BS.

The other facet of this is to expose this guy for being the dishonest buyer he is, so maybe his online rep will be permanently marked as doing business like this so other sellers can avoid him.

Right, I was just asking what his game is. I agree, let's hope at the very least SR gets his amp back and it has no issues.
 
Can't imagine fusionbear would be his go to amp tech, if he knew the truth about this royal brit guy I dunno?
 
I am sorry this has happened to you,I wish I could help you..I hate hearing about SHIT like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would want to pound his fucking head in with whatever and however I could come up with something,but then you get in trouble,so not worth it,still though...........
 
sjk":1upxqexq said:
Can't imagine fusionbear would be his go to amp tech, if he knew the truth about this royal brit guy I dunno?

I don't know but everything about Kamran Kavian stinks. I think there are a few people around who know more than they are leading on, and I think that Kavain asshole has left too many tracks to uncover. He never expected me to be unrelenting, but he will soon find that I will zero in on him and lock in. I will send that guy to prison. It's only a matter of time before an investigator figures out his game. No way a guy like that can be clean.

His biggest mistake was fucking with me because I took care of that guy 100%. If he had done something like this to another crook, no one would care and not much could be said about it, but he did this to someone who was 100% honorable to him. That's where he fucked up. The law will catch up to him soon, and when I get the evidence I need, I'm going after Paypal to get my money back.
 
Well, one way for Karma to come back on his cunt self is for someone to buy one of HIS amps....

What a complete and utter fucktard he is.

Kam, I'm talking to YOU, douchenozzle.
 
I just got off the phone with the amp tech for 1/2 hour. Apparently he said Royal Brit talked to me today
on the phone, a flat out lie. I've been working since 7 am this morning, and after 23 speaker orders
today alone, I spent 3-4 hours on the phone around shipping, building and handling emails. If a phone
call happened, I would have known. There's nothing.

The amp tech has disassociated himself with Royal Brit as of yesterday, and he's quite appalled at the stories and lies coming from this buyer. Karma is a bitch, and it plays no favorites, as this scenario clearly points out.

SR, you know where I stand on this deal, so whatever you need for previous history, and deals, I'm available for you.
 
Scumback Speakers":2ciyvm57 said:
I just got off the phone with the amp tech for 1/2 hour. Apparently he said Royal Brit talked to me today
on the phone, a flat out lie. I've been working since 7 am this morning, and after 23 speaker orders
today alone, I spent 3-4 hours on the phone around shipping, building and handling emails. If a phone
call happened, I would have known. There's nothing.

The amp tech has disassociated himself with Royal Brit as of yesterday, and he's quite appalled at the stories and lies coming from this buyer. Karma is a bitch, and it plays no favorites, as this scenario clearly points out.

SR, you know where I stand on this deal, so whatever you need for previous history, and deals, I'm available for you.

Jim, everything is appreciated. Anything you can provide will help the investigation. I decided to get the law involved because from what I've uncovered thus far, I'm convinced this guy runs some kind of illegal racket. Your willingness to do right and help me has made me a loyal customer already. I've never tried your speakers, but I guarantee you once I get my money situation cleared, I will be using them. I'll keep you guys posted as the investigation continues.
 
They asshole finally shipped it back. We'll see at the end of the week just how much of an asshole the Kamran Kavian is.
 
SavageRiffer":1x6hmfnm said:
They asshole finally shipped it back. We'll see at the end of the week just how much of an asshole the Kamran Kavian is.

Maybe he was feeling the heat from the community of good guys.
 
Tuned in but honestly not following this thread word for word. Trying to wrap my head around this. Seller ships amp to buyer using different shipping service than as stated. Buyer Kasey Kasem gets cold feet even before the amp arrives and starts talking about returning the item and a refund. Seller loses his shit on Kareem Jabbar. Buyer then delays sending it back to seller. Seller contacts PayPal and Reverb to stop Wrath of Kahn from backing out of the deal. Reverb / PayPal say no way Jose issue a shipping label. Kim Kardashian ships the amp back late. Seller thinks he will get amp back damaged and covered in greasy LA scum?

Is there another angle I missed?
 
Starman22":1fctips0 said:
Tuned in but honestly not following this thread word for word. Trying to wrap my head around this. Seller ships amp to buyer using different shipping service than as stated. Buyer Kasey Kasem gets cold feet even before the amp arrives and starts talking about returning the item and a refund. Seller loses his shit on Kareem Jabbar. Buyer then delays sending it back to seller. Seller contacts PayPal and Reverb to stop Wrath of Kahn from backing out of the deal. Reverb / PayPal say no way Jose issue a shipping label. Kim Kardashian ships the amp back late. Seller thinks he will get amp back damaged and covered in greasy LA scum?

Is there another angle I missed?

Yeah you missed a few things. You should read through it first.
 
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