I like Rig Talk...but

[MadAsAHatter]

I spoke at-length with him via PM, but not about his reasoning 'cause it was obvious.

It's almost par-for-the-course for lefties to shy away from robust FoS environments 'cause whilst many of them believe in FoS, most can't handle free expression of opposing views expressed with passion. I'm not saying that this is 100% what happened in Johnny's case, but if I had to guess, that might be it.

IMHO he's a really-nice guy and I and I'm sure others will miss him. Dude wouldn't harm a flea.

Who knows, perhaps he'll rejoin one day. Let's hope so.

I'm calling you out on this bullshit post.

It's a complete jackass move from you to insinuate Johnny is leaving because he can't handle free expression of opposing views. That has nothing to do with why Johnny decided to depart and I suspect you know that. You're not the only one who talked to him. For anyone who knows his reasoning, your statement here comes off as being petty and trying to save face.

If you truly don't know his reasons, it's even more of a jackass move to have even posted this in the first place. One way or the other you are presenting Johnny in a bad light. It would have been better for you to have just kept your mouth shut about it and let things lay where they're at.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I'm calling you out on this bullshit post.

It's a complete jackass move from you to insinuate Johnny is leaving because he can't handle free expression of opposing views. That has nothing to do with why Johnny decided to depart and I suspect you know that. You're not the only one who talked to him. For anyone who knows his reasoning, your statement here comes off as being petty and trying to save face.

If you truly don't know his reasons, it's even more of a jackass move to have even posted this in the first place. One way or the other you are presenting Johnny in a bad light. It would have been better for you to have just kept your mouth shut about it and let things lay where they're at.

Yeah. Johnny left for the same reason a lot of us take breaks or leave permanently. There are a few bad seeds that ruin the experience.

Freedom of speech is good. But if that encapsulates low brow trolling and spam posts, then I am confused why there are any rules period

 

[Picasso]

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

That's your problem right there. Like an adult, you tried reasoning with The-Kid. Basic communication skills is beyond his reach. His user name is very fitting.




95% of the people who frequent OTC are fully capable of and do have actual discussions. It's OTC so there's always going to be friendly bickering and no one really makes a big deal over that. The real problem is there's always 2-3 bad actors who all but ruin that entire section. The current crop mainly consists of a starship captain and a piece of living room furniture. Their main purpose is to disrupt every single thread trying to piss everyone off. There's also a child who seems to be completely incapable of any rational thought and a military action (formerly a California guitar brand) with extreme TDS. None of them ever offer any type of coherent arguments for their points of view. It's just bullshit antagonizing posts. Sadly they even fuck up threads specifically made to be free of bickering. Unfortunately, not feeding the trolls doesn't work overly well. They either start trying harder to push buttons until someone eventually responds, become completely unhinged, or in a specific case things just go completely over their head.

This is what @Monkey Man and others fail to see. There is a lot of this talk about just using the ignore button. The ignore button only works for the person that presses it. The person that is ignored-let's use a made up name-Dan can still derail a good thread for the others that don't have him on ignore. Then the thread takes a left turn due to childish antics. I am not against trolling, but there are levels, and when your trolling is not creative, and it derails a thread for everyone, it stops being lighthearted and fun and just becomes annoying.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Honestly, I don't really give a shit what happens in offtopic as I don't frequent it, but the stupid shit I see in the main forum from @Alpha Stryke in particular makes me wonder what value he adds to the forum. If you want to see how worthiess a member can be, just look at his recent posts. It is nothing but lowbrow trolling.

I have heard, "Why should we ban someone who adds no value?" And singularly, this is valid, but it is half the question.

The reason is he detracts every thread he enters. If trolling is what Rig-taik is about, then I think we have forgotten the purpose of a guitar forum

 

[Monkey Man]

I'm calling you out on this bullshit post.

It's a complete jackass move from you to insinuate Johnny is leaving because he can't handle free expression of opposing views. That has nothing to do with why Johnny decided to depart and I suspect you know that. You're not the only one who talked to him. For anyone who knows his reasoning, your statement here comes off as being petty and trying to save face.

If you truly don't know his reasons, it's even more of a jackass move to have even posted this in the first place. One way or the other you are presenting Johnny in a bad light. It would have been better for you to have just kept your mouth shut about it and let things lay where they're at.

Wow.

I'm truly-saddened by the fact that you thought I posted that in bad faith and / or with any intent whatsoever to deceive. Save face? P-lease man.

I didn't insinuate anything; I made it clear that if I were asked to guess, that that'd be what I'd come up with. At that point I didn't know that he'd shared his actual reasoning with anyone and as I said, we talked about other things, so I assumed all-along that it was understood that he wasn't enjoying his brief, recent time in OTC due to the "harsh" locker-room nature of some of the talk. It seemed like a logical assumption, but of course I made it clear that it was just a guess.

I've no idea why he left, but after hearing you and Smash, if you think it'd be OK to share it, please feel free to enlighten me / us. If you feel it's inappropriate to share any deets due to the possible nature of them, I'm sure Johnny will reveal them to me at some point 'cause we're staying in-touch.

Honestly bro', I don't know what to say. Calling me out for taking a guess (surely my right?) and accusing me of deceit 'cause you assumed I knew why he left? C'mon brother; that's OTT-harsh man... and simply not true. I've never rolled that way and never will.

Either you believe me or you don't, but as God is my witness you've sourly misjudged me. Nothing more I can add other than as I think you know, I highly respect you and your ability to think clearly.

I'm well beyond my shift and just popped in to put the 'puter to sleep, so in the meantime, please be well and know that I operated, as I always do, from a heartfelt place of good intentions.

PS:
Not a great post, I know. Had to rush a bit 'cause dinner's about to burn. Sorry.

 

[Monkey Man]

Honestly, I don't really give a shit what happens in offtopic as I don't frequent it, but the stupid shit I see in the main forum from @Alpha Stryke in particular makes me wonder what value he adds to the forum. If you want to see how worthiess a member can be, just look at his recent posts. It is nothing but lowbrow trolling.

I have heard, "Why should we ban someone who adds no value?" And singularly, this is valid, but it is half the question.

The reason is he detracts every thread he enters. If trolling is what Rig-taik is about, then I think we have forgotten the purpose of a guitar forum

It's not what it's about of course but yes, Danno sure has his "moments".

All a part of the tapestry that makes us individuals I guess.

I've often said, just for the sake of balance in this case, that he takes all manner of criticism like water off a duck's back. Kudos to him for that. The hit-and-run threads? Not so much.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

It's not what it's about of course but yes, Danno sure has his "moments".

All a part of the tapestry that makes us individuals I guess.

I've often said, just for the sake of balance in this case, that he takes all manner of criticism like water off a duck's back. Kudos to him for that. The hit-and-run threads? Not so much.

Ah. He takes mild criticism well maybe. But he has me blocked because he has a pattern. One or two insults, he fires back or brushes off.

The third insult, he makes threats. I suspect it is due to his low intelligence and slow moving brain. When someone returns the threat or accepts his proposal to meet up, he starts posting sections of some internet bullying site for missouri law enforcement.

If you win in a trolling/insult battle with him...which is a low bar and therefore easy to do, he blocks you and moves on to easier prey.

He is a pathetic individual and I am mystified that there are actually people that value him on this site. I think there are 5 of you, and mostly two mods.

The~Kid is a different animal. He just spam repeatssl the same shit ad nauseum until you explain something 7 different ways so that he can finally understand basic ideas, then he comes around and spams the opposite viewpoint another 7 times.

They are both annoying in their own way, but The~kid, at least posts genuinely about 20% of the time. That is by far more than dan the dipshit

 

[rsm]

Yeah. Johnny left for the same reason a lot of us take breaks or leave permanently. There are a few bad seeds that ruin the experience.

Freedom of speech is good. But if that encapsulates low brow trolling and spam posts, then I am confused why there are any rules period

rules keep it more civilized.

for example, the only reason we haven't played patriots vs libtards IRL yet is because of rules. Those rules, at least where I live, keep both libtards and patriots in check and civil, at least for now.


I'm too old to GAF about the future and the West's inevitable decline into third-world dystopia. If it gets bad here, I'll just move further away from libtards, invaders and orcs.

edit: I expect to be dead before the first Wester European country is conquered by their invaders.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

rules keep it more civilized.

for example, the only reason we haven't played patriots vs libtards IRL yet is because of rules. Those rules, at least where I live, keep both libtards and patriots in check and civil, at least for now.


I'm too old to GAF about the future and the West's inevitable decline into third-world dystopia. If it gets bad here, I'll just move further away from libtards, invaders and orcs.

edit: I expect to be dead before the first Wester European country is conquered by their invaders.

Either you posted in the wrong thread, or this went right over my head. Either way, i love the randomness

 

[Floyd Eye]

Sure, the logical conclusion would be that the accuser has an issue with the named race / people.

It's not specifically stating that one "race", or in this case a people, is inferior. A statement of this nature is incontestably-racist and qualifies for a banting.

The implementation of the rule is clear and has been rebroadcast umpteen times, so there's also no excuse.


Necessary.

Without said restraint there'd be practically nobody left in OTC and that wouldn't be fun at all.

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I'm now moving this to OTC 'cause the language of the conversation has become, shall we say, robust, and not befitting of the main-forum area.

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First, I’m not advocating banning anyone.

Second, the whole “ insinuating a whole race is inferior” thing is random and illogical. If I call a black dude a fuckin N****r, that doesn’t imply all blacks are inferior. Is it racist though ?

 

[Geo]

He's threatened to leave many times for many reasons. Too emotional, lay off the SSRI's.

 

[Alpha Stryke]

I'm calling you out on this bullshit post.

It's a complete jackass move from you to insinuate Johnny is leaving because he can't handle INTERNET BULLYING, THREATS, PERSONAL ATTACKS, CHARACTER ASSASINATION & INTIMADATION ...

Fixed dat for you.

 

[Geo]

Fixed dat for you.

Slapped a little Oscar Meyer on it, did you?

 

[Alpha Stryke]

First, I’m not advocating banning anyone.

Second, the whole “ insinuating a whole race is inferior” thing is random and illogical. If I call a black dude a fuckin N****r, that doesn’t imply all blacks are inferior. Is it racist though ?

 

[Floyd Eye]

Instead of posting your opinion on a comment, you post dumbass irrelevant memes. That’s another reason fat ass.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Fixed dat for you.

Are you really that retarded you dumb fuck?

 

[Findthetone1]

Are you really that retarded you dumb fuck?

Oh,Oh,Oh..I know this! Pick me! Pick me!

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Wow.

I'm truly-saddened by the fact that you thought I posted that in bad faith and / or with any intent whatsoever to deceive. Save face? P-lease man.

I didn't insinuate anything; I made it clear that if I were asked to guess, that that'd be what I'd come up with. At that point I didn't know that he'd shared his actual reasoning with anyone and as I said, we talked about other things, so I assumed all-along that it was understood that he wasn't enjoying his brief, recent time in OTC due to the "harsh" locker-room nature of some of the talk. It seemed like a logical assumption, but of course I made it clear that it was just a guess.

I've no idea why he left, but after hearing you and Smash, if you think it'd be OK to share it, please feel free to enlighten me / us. If you feel it's inappropriate to share any deets due to the possible nature of them, I'm sure Johnny will reveal them to me at some point 'cause we're staying in-touch.

Honestly bro', I don't know what to say. Calling me out for taking a guess (surely my right?) and accusing me of deceit 'cause you assumed I knew why he left? C'mon brother; that's OTT-harsh man... and simply not true. I've never rolled that way and never will.

Either you believe me or you don't, but as God is my witness you've sourly misjudged me. Nothing more I can add other than as I think you know, I highly respect you and your ability to think clearly.

I'm well beyond my shift and just popped in to put the 'puter to sleep, so in the meantime, please be well and know that I operated, as I always do, from a heartfelt place of good intentions.

PS:
Not a great post, I know. Had to rush a bit 'cause dinner's about to burn. Sorry.

You can crawfish, twist, and grasp at straws all you want trying to explain yourself. You most certainly made an insinuation. Reread your post.

"It's almost par-for-the-course for lefties to shy away from robust FoS environments 'cause whilst many of them believe in FoS, most can't handle free expression of opposing views expressed with passion. I'm not saying that this is 100% what happened in Johnny's case, but if I had to guess, that might be it."

This 100% is you insinuating Johnny is leaving because he couldn't handle free expression of opposing views expressed with a passion. You even restate in the post I'm quoting that this would be your guess. Then you say you have no idea why he left. All the more reason to have kept quiet on the matter. Your speculation just made you look like a jackass. Regardless of your intention you most certainly painted Johnny in a bad light.

I don't want to overstep my bounds so I'll keep it semi-vague. A large part of why Johnny decided to leave has to do with what you and @Floyd Eye are discussing.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Oh,Oh,Oh..I know this! Pick me! Pick me!

We know you know this one. Let others have a chance to answer.