I Need a New Delay Pedal

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An El Capistan is something I would use in front of an amp for cleans or slight breakup stuff. But for high-gain, I wouldn't use a tape echo type of delay. I need something clean and crisp, like a 2290. That is something I would use in a loop.
 
Just a heads up and not meant to deter, but I had bad experiences with the Flashback. I bought one that had power supply issues. Returned it within a couple days to exchange for another hoping it was just that one. The second one had the same problem. I could use it with my power supply, but I would not trust it battery supplied. Returned the second one too. This problem I experienced several months ago and has been reported by others as well. If you search TGP you will see it popping up. I think the Chrono Delay will give you the clean, digital delays you speak of. I have not tried it through the CCV but have tried its long discontinued relative. Looks like they have not reissued it yet.
 
I just pulled the trigger on a Strymon Timeline. I want to see what all of the fuss is about, heaps of memory for presets and the syth sounds look interesting.
 
I've got several delay pedals and for some reason I keep grabbing the Vox Time Machine. It seems to be pretty unpopular because I see them cheap on Craigslist and stuff a lot but I sure like it.
 
I've got a Nova Repeater which is great and works well in the FX loop, an Empress Vintage Modified Superdelay which is cool, just got a Flashback X4 which is awesome but haven't fully tested it yet and my Favourite the Strymon El Capistan which works pretty well in the loop in buffered mode, there is a clean boost too to help match levels.

Oh and I had a Vox Time Machine but it didn't work in the loop at all so sold it.
 
I just bought the vox delay lab. I run it in killdry so my tone stays clean and I have presets and more delay options ill ever use.
 
So I grabbed a Flashback and an Eventide TimeFactor.

I decided to try the TimeFactor because it has selectable line/instrument input, selectable line/amp output, and a clipping indicator with level adjust. Which is what I need for using in a loop. That part of the pedal works very well. But the thing was just too complicated with all the presets and dual-functions of every knob. So I returned it. Seriously. Way too complicated. I'd spend more time tweaking and fucking with settings than playing.

The Flashback, on the other hand, is super simple. The killdry function lets me use it in the parallel loop of my VH4 quite well and the input automatically knows if it's instrument or line-level. So it's a keeper. But at the same time, its functions are almost too limited. For example, you can't adjust the modulation. I really only use the Digital/2290, Analog, and Tape modes. I'm keeping it. But at the same time, I wonder what an El Capistan or Timeline are like.

I don't see anything in their manuals about line-level vs. instrument level. I like that the Timeline has a display where you can set a specific delay time in milliseconds. And I know the El Cap. is a dedicated tap delay and the Timeline is more versatile, but more limited for tape stuff. Just don't know what I need. I'm all set for now with the Flashback. But I kinda got the delay bug and want to try one of the Strymons. The downside here is that I don't think either unit has a killdry.

Same thing with the Chrono Delay. It seems nice, especially with the subdivision switch that makes it super easy to get those galloping delay sounds. But there is no killdry.

The Nova Repeater, however, has all of those functions (minus a display) including dedicated instrument/loop inputs.
 
Line 6 DL-4 with a Hi-Fi Mod by Modest Mike or JHV3 Running one now and I happy with it. DL-8s are definitely great pedals for the price. The chrono delay and timeline are great as well but more than I was interested in spending.
 
FourT6and2":1dm5p1n0 said:
But the thing was just too complicated with all the presets and dual-functions of every knob. So I returned it. Seriously. Way too complicated. I'd spend more time tweaking and fucking with settings than playing.
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I've gone from a Flashback to a Timefactor, it has a learning curve but it's really easy to use. And 1 knob has 1 function (the bottom row can change depending of the delay type), quite straight forward, far from dual function. IMHO you shouldn't have returned it that fast, the Flasback is very good but a bit tweakability would have been perfect. In the end, I spent more time tweaking the Flashback for finding the sweet spot than tweaking the Timefactor.
 
FourT6and2":6opdvo0t said:
So I grabbed a Flashback and an Eventide TimeFactor.

I decided to try the TimeFactor because it has selectable line/instrument input, selectable line/amp output, and a clipping indicator with level adjust. Which is what I need for using in a loop. That part of the pedal works very well. But the thing was just too complicated with all the presets and dual-functions of every knob. So I returned it. Seriously. Way too complicated. I'd spend more time tweaking and fucking with settings than playing.

The Flashback, on the other hand, is super simple. The killdry function lets me use it in the parallel loop of my VH4 quite well and the input automatically knows if it's instrument or line-level. So it's a keeper. But at the same time, its functions are almost too limited. For example, you can't adjust the modulation. I really only use the Digital/2290, Analog, and Tape modes. I'm keeping it. But at the same time, I wonder what an El Capistan or Timeline are like.

I don't see anything in their manuals about line-level vs. instrument level. I like that the Timeline has a display where you can set a specific delay time in milliseconds. And I know the El Cap. is a dedicated tap delay and the Timeline is more versatile, but more limited for tape stuff. Just don't know what I need. I'm all set for now with the Flashback. But I kinda got the delay bug and want to try one of the Strymons. The downside here is that I don't think either unit has a killdry.

Same thing with the Chrono Delay. It seems nice, especially with the subdivision switch that makes it super easy to get those galloping delay sounds. But there is no killdry.

The Nova Repeater, however, has all of those functions (minus a display) including dedicated instrument/loop inputs.
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The TL does have a killdry for parrallel loops.
 
supersonic":3ezfemfh said:
FourT6and2":3ezfemfh said:
So I grabbed a Flashback and an Eventide TimeFactor.

I decided to try the TimeFactor because it has selectable line/instrument input, selectable line/amp output, and a clipping indicator with level adjust. Which is what I need for using in a loop. That part of the pedal works very well. But the thing was just too complicated with all the presets and dual-functions of every knob. So I returned it. Seriously. Way too complicated. I'd spend more time tweaking and fucking with settings than playing.

The Flashback, on the other hand, is super simple. The killdry function lets me use it in the parallel loop of my VH4 quite well and the input automatically knows if it's instrument or line-level. So it's a keeper. But at the same time, its functions are almost too limited. For example, you can't adjust the modulation. I really only use the Digital/2290, Analog, and Tape modes. I'm keeping it. But at the same time, I wonder what an El Capistan or Timeline are like.

I don't see anything in their manuals about line-level vs. instrument level. I like that the Timeline has a display where you can set a specific delay time in milliseconds. And I know the El Cap. is a dedicated tap delay and the Timeline is more versatile, but more limited for tape stuff. Just don't know what I need. I'm all set for now with the Flashback. But I kinda got the delay bug and want to try one of the Strymons. The downside here is that I don't think either unit has a killdry.

Same thing with the Chrono Delay. It seems nice, especially with the subdivision switch that makes it super easy to get those galloping delay sounds. But there is no killdry.

The Nova Repeater, however, has all of those functions (minus a display) including dedicated instrument/loop inputs.
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The TL does have a killdry for parrallel loops.
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Interesting. I must have missed it reading through the manual. Thanks! :)
 
TC Nova Delay works awesomely in parallel loops and has an excellent calibration feature so your delays remain clean and crisp. Tap tempo is a must for me otherwise I would just use the Flashback which also works extremely well in a parallel loop. For what you describe your needs as, a ND would be perfect it seems. Not complicated to use at all.
 
killertone":3kneuzoq said:
TC Nova Delay works awesomely in parallel loops and has an excellent calibration feature so your delays remain clean and crisp. Tap tempo is a must for me otherwise I would just use the Flashback which also works extremely well in a parallel loop. For what you describe your needs as, a ND would be perfect it seems. Not complicated to use at all.
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I think the Nova Repeater would be better for me than the Nova Delay.
 
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