John Mayer show in Houston

[headlessdeadguy]

petrucci couldn't play a BB king song convincingly to save his life, and we all know how simply BB's guitar licks are. But it's all about the FEEL. In blues is all about the feel

Here's John playing with BB and holding on perfectly well with BB, because the guy has FEEL in his playing.

that said, Petrucci is a master at what he does.

You can let go of the JMs nutsack now Joey.

only if you give me yours so I can hold them

 

[Greazygeo]

petrucci couldn't play a BB king song convincingly to save his life, and we all know how simply BB's guitar licks are. But it's all about the FEEL. In blues is all about the feel

Are you sure about that?

JM is just another SRV wannabee, nothing special at all. No real substance or interest to anything he plays imo.

 

[Joeytpg]

petrucci couldn't play a BB king song convincingly to save his life, and we all know how simply BB's guitar licks are. But it's all about the FEEL. In blues is all about the feel

Are you sure about that?

JM is just another SRV wannabee, nothing special at all. No real substance or interest to anything he plays imo.

He's got feel bro, don't you agree? or you don't know what "FEEL" means?


and NO, feels is not having your tone drowned in delay

 

[Spaceboy]

This is such a silly argument.

He writes songs that millions of people enjoy, he's at least a decent if not good guitarist, and he's a good singer with an instantly recognizable voice. You can't deny that he's a solid all-around musician, whether you're into his music or not. I'm not John Mayer fan by any means, but I'm not going to scream in agony if he comes on.

I'm a metalhead, I know fuck all about his clean tones.

 

[70strathead]

petrucci couldn't play a BB king song convincingly to save his life, and we all know how simply BB's guitar licks are. But it's all about the FEEL. In blues is all about the feel

Are you sure about that?

JM is just another SRV wannabee, nothing special at all. No real substance or interest to anything he plays imo.

He's got feel bro, don't you agree? or you don't know what "FEEL" means?


and NO, feels is not having your tone drowned in delay

I agree with Greazygeo, Mayer is tremendously successful pop songwriter and very talented at that. But If you cant see that he took the vocal style/tone directly from SRV and the licks, your're not listening. I actually like some of Mayer's stuff, but if i wanna hear a Blues guitarist with the what i think has great feel, he's not even on my list. too many of these cats around ...Eric Gales, Bonamassa, D. Trucks, Kenny Wayne Sheppard, Philip Sayce, Mike Landau,Billy Gibbons, Ian Moore, Eric Johnson, and of course Jeff Beck

 

[headlessdeadguy]

petrucci couldn't play a BB king song convincingly to save his life, and we all know how simply BB's guitar licks are. But it's all about the FEEL. In blues is all about the feel

Are you sure about that?

JM is just another SRV wannabee, nothing special at all. No real substance or interest to anything he plays imo.

He's got feel bro, don't you agree? or you don't know what "FEEL" means?


and NO, feels is not having your tone drowned in delay

Wow.... I have more feel than JM and I'm a metal rhythm player. I've never even owned a delay pedal

Guys like Iommi, Bonnamassa, Lifeson, Beck, Page, Gibbons...... That's FEEL. Sorry to hijack

 

[Bishop5150]

Mayer is a Top 40 pop artist who has some skills. I would not put him in the same category with dudes like Kenny Wayne Shepard or Joe B. Great players but will never have the commercial success that Mayer has. Love him or hate him you cannot deny his success. I guess you can argue that you don't agree with his success but you can't deny his success. I put Mayer in the same category as Keith Urban and Brad Paisley who's playing I also enjoy. They are commercial top 40 hit makers who write catchy songs that chicks dig but they still get to play their own guitar solos. Sounds like a great career to me. I'm a metal guy but I still appreciate other music.

 

[headlessdeadguy]

Mayer is a Top 40 pop artist who has some skills. I would not put him in the same category with dudes like Kenny Wayne Shepard or Joe B. Great players but will never have the commercial success that Mayer has. Love him or hate him you cannot deny his success. I guess you can argue that you don't agree with his success but you can't deny his success. I put Mayer in the same category as Keith Urban and Brad Paisley who's playing I also enjoy. They are commercial top 40 hit makers who write catchy songs that chicks dig but they still get to play their own guitar solos. Sounds like a great career to me. I'm a metal guy but I still appreciate other music.

I just hate his success.

But you can't put him in a class of guitarists he doesn't belong.
I think Swawn Mullins is a great guitarist/singer/songwriter, but I'm not going to constantly say how good he is, because I know where he belongs in the great "contest" that playing a guitar is.
Kerry King is one of my favorites but I'm not gonna come on here and compare him to Petruci..
Mayer is VERY overrated.

 

[MisterBulbous]

have at it...

http://www.musicradar.com/guitarist/joh ... iew-251957

 

[merlop]

Like Alien said, he's a pop musician and good at writing crap that sells. His tone, i don't see the big deal either. It sounds like a Strat plugged into a Twin, not that hard to duplicate really.

But funny thing with me is, Mayer could be the greatest guitar player ever and i still wouldn't listen to him because i can't stand his voice, and i don't like his songs.

Van Halen's tone, I don't see the big deal either. It sounds like a PAF equipped Superstrat plugged into a raging Marshall, not that hard to duplicate really.

Petrucci's tone, I don't see the big deal either. It sounds like an Ibanez/Music Man plugged into a Mark series Boogie, not that hard to duplicate really.

Aldrich's tone, I don't see the big deal either. It sounds like a Les Paul into an overgained Cameron Marshall, not that hard to duplicate really.



My point? You could apply that thinking to anything if you have sufficient disdain for it.

Coming from the guy that used to be the biggest Dream Theater wanker on this forum... Went to music school and now Mayer is your new backdoor man... you even ripped Joeytgp awhile back for digging JM. You are a poser flavor of the week wannabee

 

[Greazygeo]

He's got feel bro, don't you agree? or you don't know what "FEEL" means?


and NO, feels is not having your tone drowned in delay

I have no clue what feel is......and I don't get the delay comment either.....

 

[Greazygeo]

Mayer is a Top 40 pop artist who has some skills. I would not put him in the same category with dudes like Kenny Wayne Shepard or Joe B. Great players but will never have the commercial success that Mayer has. Love him or hate him you cannot deny his success. I guess you can argue that you don't agree with his success but you can't deny his success. I put Mayer in the same category as Keith Urban and Brad Paisley who's playing I also enjoy. They are commercial top 40 hit makers who write catchy songs that chicks dig but they still get to play their own guitar solos. Sounds like a great career to me. I'm a metal guy but I still appreciate other music.

Brad Paisley is a great guitarist and has some substance to his music and playing.....

 

[thiswaythatway]

This is such a silly argument.

He writes songs that millions of people enjoy, he's at least a decent if not good guitarist, and he's a good singer with an instantly recognizable voice. You can't deny that he's a solid all-around musician, whether you're into his music or not. I'm not John Mayer fan by any means, but I'm not going to scream in agony if he comes on.

I'm a metalhead, I know fuck all about his clean tones.

The thing is, people like Mayer's songs and his success as a pop artist and that elevates his guitar playing ability to a far higher level than what it actually is for the people that like him. Kinda like Kirk Hammett, who is nothing without Hetfield writing the songs for him.

I CAN relate to you Mayer fans because right now, I'm bored to death of listening to instrumentals or the Varney shredders. If the song doesn't catch me i can't get into it. I respect that you guys like Mayer so I'm never going to try and talk someone out of their own tastes, just like nobody can convince me that Devin Townsend isn't the most gifted rock/metal musician of our time, because he is

But since i don't like Mayers songs or voice, he really doesn't mean anything to me. And as far as his pure playing is concerned, I've never heard anything from him that made me say wow.

 

[Ancient Alien]

This is such a silly argument.

He writes songs that millions of people enjoy, he's at least a decent if not good guitarist, and he's a good singer with an instantly recognizable voice. You can't deny that he's a solid all-around musician, whether you're into his music or not. I'm not John Mayer fan by any means, but I'm not going to scream in agony if he comes on.

I'm a metalhead, I know fuck all about his clean tones.

The thing is, people like Mayer's songs and his success as a pop artist and that elevates his guitar playing ability to a far higher level than what it actually is for the people that like him. Kinda like Kirk Hammett, who is nothing without Hetfield writing the songs for him.

I CAN relate to you Mayer fans because right now, I'm bored to death of listening to instrumentals or the Varney shredders. If the song doesn't catch me i can't get into it. I respect that you guys like Mayer so I'm never going to try and talk someone out of their own tastes, just like nobody can convince me that Devin Townsend isn't the most gifted rock/metal musician of our time, because he is

But since i don't like Mayers songs or voice, he really doesn't mean anything to me. And as far as his pure playing is concerned, I've never heard anything from him that made me say wow.

I can say the same thing about Hendrix.
Though I respect his position in being a rock guitar virtuoso of his time, I've never heard a thing from him that made me say wow.
That's why we are all entitled to our opinions.
Some people like vanilla, some like chocolate, and some like strawberry, etc etc etc

 

[Bishop5150]

Mayer is a Top 40 pop artist who has some skills. I would not put him in the same category with dudes like Kenny Wayne Shepard or Joe B. Great players but will never have the commercial success that Mayer has. Love him or hate him you cannot deny his success. I guess you can argue that you don't agree with his success but you can't deny his success. I put Mayer in the same category as Keith Urban and Brad Paisley who's playing I also enjoy. They are commercial top 40 hit makers who write catchy songs that chicks dig but they still get to play their own guitar solos. Sounds like a great career to me. I'm a metal guy but I still appreciate other music.

Brad Paisley is a great guitarist and has some substance to his music and playing.....

I totally agree. But I think Mayers lyrics have some substance as well. I'm not talking about the Your Body Is A Wonderland bubble gum stuff that he wrote when he was a freshman in college trying to score chicks. He's got some really good stuff that you probably haven't heard that are great reflections of life and relationships he's experienced as he's grown as a person. I guess that's what I dig is the stuff that I can relate to lyrically. As a kid growing up I didn't really give a shit about the lyrics as long as the guitar riff killed I was good. But as I've grown and hit my late 30's death and destruction lyrics don't really do it for me anymore. I enjoy lyrics that speak to me and that I can relate to. Which is also what I like about Keith Urban and Brad Paisley. But at the end of the day I still enjoy the nonsense spewed from David Lee Roth.

 

[Spaceboy]

I'm all about some death and destruction lyrics.

 

[SFW]

He should stick to the boring clean stuff.

lol! I didn't find that bad. I've heard bar bands play it much worse. For that matter, I personally saw EVH hack that very song and a whole set of other songs in 2005, on that god aweful best of tour. Mayer may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I doubt he cares much what a guitar internet forume thinks of him. And if I had banged Jessica Simpson and Jennifer Aniston, I wouldn't either.

 

[Bishop5150]

He should stick to the boring clean stuff.

lol! I didn't find that bad. I've heard bar bands play it much worse. For that matter, I personally saw EVH hack that very song and a whole set of other songs in 2005, on that god aweful best of tour. Mayer may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I doubt he cares much what a guitar internet forume thinks of him. And if I had banged Jessica Simpson and Jennifer Aniston, I wouldn't either.

You just owned this entire post.

 

[Bishop5150]

I'm all about some death and destruction lyrics.

Yeah, me too.

 

[DEWD]

or

I guess i just don't get Mayer, that did nothing for me.

My ultimate players for cleans tones are Eric Johnson, Summers, Gilmour.

No offense to you but that EJ vid was some of the worst shit I've ever heard.