Karnivore vs V30

[D-Rock]

Yeah brutal pricing up here..

 

[heinz_57]

lol - The speaker is named Karnivore, not Kannable
It sounds good to me.

 

[anomaly]

What is this frequency that bothers you guys about V30's? Is it the 5-6k spike or is it something lower? Cause some V30's can sound really smooth and not have that 5-6k spike. Also, it seems to me that it's mostly Chinese V30's that have that upper mid thing going on which usually makes them sound more aggressive than the UK V30's. They can both sound really good and mix ready though. Some do sound very spikey though, it's a crap shoot with V30's, you just gotta hope you get some good ones.

I like how balanced the karnivore is but you know it's not going to cut through a live mix as well as most celestions do, if that's a concern for you??

 

[anomaly]

Yeah brutal pricing up here..

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Ya, I've bought enough speakers in the last couple years. With these prices I'll probably wait till I can get some used ones at a decent price. Guitar gear is so damn expensive in canada.

 

[thegame]

I’d love to hear a clip of these with a midrange rich Marshall style circuit

 

[D-Rock]

What is this frequency that bothers you guys about V30's? Is it the 5-6k spike or is it something lower? Cause some V30's can sound really smooth and not have that 5-6k spike. Also, it seems to me that it's mostly Chinese V30's that have that upper mid thing going on which usually makes them sound more aggressive than the UK V30's. They can both sound really good and mix ready though. Some do sound very spikey though, it's a crap shoot with V30's, you just gotta hope you get some good ones.

I like how balanced the karnivore is but you know it's not going to cut through a live mix as well as most celestions do, if that's a concern for you??

Yes I think that's the freq range but I personally like it, for some amps and some cabs. Especially since I don't do recordings or quiet bedroom levels. Just medium to very loud volume live use. So that's also why I have a cab with each. One 412 loaded with Chinese V30s and another with UK V30s. Both cabs and speakers from 2007.

They both sound different, albeit are different impedances as well. The Chinese ones have those gnawing KAW & shhhhh upper mids, big bass and raspy treble but I personally like that about them. The UK ones don't have that. They are smoother, but still aggressive.

I won't use my JSX or 5153 50w heads with the Chinese V30s because those amps already have an abundance of what those speakers offer frequency wise so it gets either too peaky, or too flat sounding. No in between. But the amp's sounds fantastic through the UK V30s.

Then on the other hand, my Krank Rev and Katana Artist heads love the Chinese V30s more than the UK ones, so that's what they get played though. But there are some bad sounding Chinese V30s too, like the ones made in the first year, 2002(?) and between 2013-2016 is what read.

 

[NinjaRaf]

Yeah, whatever that 5-6k thing is. I don't think I've ever even owned a Chinese V30. Mine have all been Mesa V30s ranging from 2003-2023, and they have all had this.

I haven't had any issues with Karnivores cutting through a mix...

 

[JerEvil]

I’d love to hear a clip of these with a midrange rich Marshall style circuit

Ok I’ll make that once I get them installed.

 

[metalmaniac93]

Mark my words, I bet 50 - 75 % of people ditching their V30s for Karnivores will be back to V30s within a year.

Yep

 

[Shask]

Yep

Naw, V30s are horrible.

I have been using my G12T-75s more though. Still like the Karnivores also.

 

[chumbucket]

Ok I’ll make that once I get them installed.

What happened to @JerEvil anyway? I haven't seen him around ina long time?

 

[The~Kid]

Maybe a slightly more direct comparison? I only have 1 trad straight and 1 trad slant...so I can't really do straight to straight or slant to slant, and I've got the slant listed for sale...but honestly wouldn't be upset if it didn't sell. Both cabs sound really great! Settings are the same, start with the V30s this time. Amp was loud enough to clip the Rhode mic plugged into my phone, though YT compression seems to have fixed that. Advanced apologies for the mediocre playing on this one. I got snipped 3 days ago and have been recovering lolol.

And yes, I play Warhammer and MTG with a group of friends lol.

Honestly Im pretty impressed although they sound different there is a lot of overlap and probably more overlap than difference which is pretty impressive.


I want to say the Karnivores are warmer overall and more mid scooped with a more relaxed top end compared to the V30 but more grain and fatter and tighter low end.


They both sound great IMO. Good stuff

 

[njshred]

Long before those the V30 alternative:

https://www.davidlaboga.com/mamzer30.html

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Long before those the V30 alternative:

https://www.davidlaboga.com/mamzer30.html

I've heard good things about these, but never encountered one in the wild.

 

[njshred]

I've heard good things about these, but never encountered one in the wild.

The wild.

 

[The~Kid]

Im no "expert"..... But yeah these sound so much like a real UK V30 but with tweaks.....


I figure they pretty much cloned it as best they could then tweaked it to give you that broken in V30 sound out of the box with some tweaks

 

[Exo-metal]

Meanwhile...

 

[Techdeth]

The karnivore is cool af . But by changing the eq settings on the v30 to match it I think I’d not known a difference in the recording
In the room idk

 

[The~Kid]

Figure Karnivores would pair well together in a 212 or 412 with V30s

 

[Klauth]

I ended up getting a quad of 8ohm put them in a KSR, client request. kind of cool to set the cab next to a mesa os and traditional, and sometimes if asked, an orange ppc with F90's. it has a sound but, most often the mesa trad. gets picked by client. it seems and affirms most clients just want the comparison to be sure the mesa/v30 IS the king.