Mesa Stiletto deuce (another quick question)

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gbsmusic":2wwasup2 said:
Bought one. I'm pretty blown away on how good it sounds!~! Never thought I'd be playing another Boogie!!! Awesome amp!
Nice! What are your thoughts on the clean channel? I don't remember much about these amps. It's been awhile since I played through one. Are you using a boost/OD pedal out front?

I'd like to see Mesa make a new Stiletto with features from their newer stuff. A Stiletto with the Lone Star clean channel, assignable graphic EQ, multi watt, and the CabClone recording out would be very cool. The Express series is kind of similar, but it's got it's own flavor to it.

HNAD!
 
CaseyCor":3q3oi2o5 said:
gbsmusic":3q3oi2o5 said:
Bought one. I'm pretty blown away on how good it sounds!~! Never thought I'd be playing another Boogie!!! Awesome amp!
Nice! What are your thoughts on the clean channel? I don't remember much about these amps. It's been awhile since I played through one. Are you using a boost/OD pedal out front?

I'd like to see Mesa make a new Stiletto with features from their newer stuff. A Stiletto with the Lone Star clean channel, assignable graphic EQ, multi watt, and the CabClone recording out would be very cool. The Express series is kind of similar, but it's got it's own flavor to it.

HNAD!
Cleans are a little dark for my taste but channel 2 makes up for that. I'm not boosting it.
 
gbsmusic":2ub2uzco said:
CaseyCor":2ub2uzco said:
gbsmusic":2ub2uzco said:
Bought one. I'm pretty blown away on how good it sounds!~! Never thought I'd be playing another Boogie!!! Awesome amp!
Nice! What are your thoughts on the clean channel? I don't remember much about these amps. It's been awhile since I played through one. Are you using a boost/OD pedal out front?

I'd like to see Mesa make a new Stiletto with features from their newer stuff. A Stiletto with the Lone Star clean channel, assignable graphic EQ, multi watt, and the CabClone recording out would be very cool. The Express series is kind of similar, but it's got it's own flavor to it.

HNAD!
Cleans are a little dark for my taste but channel 2 makes up for that. I'm not boosting it.

Thsts what I like about it. I haven't used a boost since I got mine. And that's been a few years. Fluid Drive, on the II, at about 9-10 O'Clock with any decent humbucker has all the sonic edge and harmonic goodness that I've heard boosts give other amps. Tight gain is like you turned off your fluid drive "pedal" per se.

So far I've been digging having ch1 crunch set to tube rec and ch 2 set to diode. Spongy sounds killer on fluid drive using diode rec to get it a little more chewy (gotta throw in some scientific Bogner terminology there)...
 
skoora":qpcmnpaa said:
gbsmusic":qpcmnpaa said:
CaseyCor":qpcmnpaa said:
gbsmusic":qpcmnpaa said:
Bought one. I'm pretty blown away on how good it sounds!~! Never thought I'd be playing another Boogie!!! Awesome amp!
Nice! What are your thoughts on the clean channel? I don't remember much about these amps. It's been awhile since I played through one. Are you using a boost/OD pedal out front?

I'd like to see Mesa make a new Stiletto with features from their newer stuff. A Stiletto with the Lone Star clean channel, assignable graphic EQ, multi watt, and the CabClone recording out would be very cool. The Express series is kind of similar, but it's got it's own flavor to it.

HNAD!
Cleans are a little dark for my taste but channel 2 makes up for that. I'm not boosting it.

Thsts what I like about it. I haven't used a boost since I got mine. And that's been a few years. Fluid Drive, on the II, at about 9-10 O'Clock with any decent humbucker has all the sonic edge and harmonic goodness that I've heard boosts give other amps. Tight gain is like you turned off your fluid drive "pedal" per se.

So far I've been digging having ch1 crunch set to tube rec and ch 2 set to diode. Spongy sounds killer on fluid drive using diode rec to get it a little more chewy (gotta throw in some scientific Bogner terminology there)...
I'll have to give those settings a try. Thanks.
 
When I use fluid drive I usually have the mids below half and treble around 10 O'Clock, presence 9 O'Clock, for a nice raw but meaty sound. As always what guitar, pickups and speakers will make differences. I use Gibson's with PAF types and old Super Distortions using greenbacks.

I also use a hotplate to get the volumes up there a bit.
 
Just got back from a friends house, he dialed in the most sparkling clean. I take the dark cleans back.
 
How does it take pedals in the loop. I'm going to use a carbon Copy. Anyone used it the Stiletto? I had tried Boss pedals in my Rectos years ago and they sucked in the loop. Thanks for any input.
 
The loop is a good series loop. Much better than the older recto loop.
 
I had one and liked it a lot...the only reason I don't have it anymore is that I needed to use it in a trade to get a guitar that I was after. I planned to get another but ultimately never did...by that time the Stage II came out and I didn't like it as much. The first version sits squarely in the hot-rodded Marshall camp and does those tones quite well. The Stage II upped the gain and compression which I felt made it less dynamic and essentially turned into more of a "Boogie" sounding amp if that makes sense (still a great sounding amp though).
 
rupe":1ncd9vd0 said:
I had one and liked it a lot...the only reason I don't have it anymore is that I needed to use it in a trade to get a guitar that I was after. I planned to get another but ultimately never did...by that time the Stage II came out and I didn't like it as much. The first version sits squarely in the hot-rodded Marshall camp and does those tones quite well. The Stage II upped the gain and compression which I felt made it less dynamic and essentially turned into more of a "Boogie" sounding amp if that makes sense (still a great sounding amp though).

I think they made fluid drive vastly more useable. If you don't put the gain too high it's very dynamic and you can still get a nice tight response on the low strings. I found the Stage 1 did classic rock well, but you couldn't play any classic metal on it without pedals. Tight gain and fluid drive just mushed out in the low end with any levels of gain necessary to play hard rock or old school metal.
 
skoora":v5s153jx said:
rupe":v5s153jx said:
I had one and liked it a lot...the only reason I don't have it anymore is that I needed to use it in a trade to get a guitar that I was after. I planned to get another but ultimately never did...by that time the Stage II came out and I didn't like it as much. The first version sits squarely in the hot-rodded Marshall camp and does those tones quite well. The Stage II upped the gain and compression which I felt made it less dynamic and essentially turned into more of a "Boogie" sounding amp if that makes sense (still a great sounding amp though).

I think they made fluid drive vastly more useable. If you don't put the gain too high it's very dynamic and you can still get a nice tight response on the low strings. I found the Stage 1 did classic rock well, but you couldn't play any classic metal on it without pedals. Tight gain and fluid drive just mushed out in the low end with any levels of gain necessary to play hard rock or old school metal.
That doesn't match my experience...I had all the gain I could ever need to do classic metal with it (which is about all I used it for) with no gain pedals needed.
We're you using yours live or at gig volume?
 
What boost pedals did you feel worked best with it? I dont think it needs it but I'm willing to check one out.
 
rupe":384tzqnj said:
skoora":384tzqnj said:
rupe":384tzqnj said:
I had one and liked it a lot...the only reason I don't have it anymore is that I needed to use it in a trade to get a guitar that I was after. I planned to get another but ultimately never did...by that time the Stage II came out and I didn't like it as much. The first version sits squarely in the hot-rodded Marshall camp and does those tones quite well. The Stage II upped the gain and compression which I felt made it less dynamic and essentially turned into more of a "Boogie" sounding amp if that makes sense (still a great sounding amp though).

I think they made fluid drive vastly more useable. If you don't put the gain too high it's very dynamic and you can still get a nice tight response on the low strings. I found the Stage 1 did classic rock well, but you couldn't play any classic metal on it without pedals. Tight gain and fluid drive just mushed out in the low end with any levels of gain necessary to play hard rock or old school metal.
That doesn't match my experience...I had all the gain I could ever need to do classic metal with it (which is about all I used it for) with no gain pedals needed.
We're you using yours live or at gig volume?

I never owned a stage I. I would always pass on one after demoing it, often at volume because of what I stated. CH 1 crunch cranked up sounded killer but not channel 2, quiet or loud IMO. I've had my stage II for a few years now and attenuate it but it ultimately doesn't need it that much.
 
gbsmusic":5bj08u25 said:
How does it take pedals in the loop. I'm going to use a carbon Copy. Anyone used it the Stiletto? I had tried Boss pedals in my Rectos years ago and they sucked in the loop. Thanks for any input.

This was my set up for years, Stiletto with two carbon copies through the fx loop. Great, Great tone!
 
skoora":w2acoqwo said:
rupe":w2acoqwo said:
skoora":w2acoqwo said:
rupe":w2acoqwo said:
I had one and liked it a lot...the only reason I don't have it anymore is that I needed to use it in a trade to get a guitar that I was after. I planned to get another but ultimately never did...by that time the Stage II came out and I didn't like it as much. The first version sits squarely in the hot-rodded Marshall camp and does those tones quite well. The Stage II upped the gain and compression which I felt made it less dynamic and essentially turned into more of a "Boogie" sounding amp if that makes sense (still a great sounding amp though).

I think they made fluid drive vastly more useable. If you don't put the gain too high it's very dynamic and you can still get a nice tight response on the low strings. I found the Stage 1 did classic rock well, but you couldn't play any classic metal on it without pedals. Tight gain and fluid drive just mushed out in the low end with any levels of gain necessary to play hard rock or old school metal.
That doesn't match my experience...I had all the gain I could ever need to do classic metal with it (which is about all I used it for) with no gain pedals needed.
We're you using yours live or at gig volume?

I never owned a stage I. I would always pass on one after demoing it, often at volume because of what I stated. CH 1 crunch cranked up sounded killer but not channel 2, quiet or loud IMO. I've had my stage II for a few years now and attenuate it but it ultimately doesn't need it that much.
The 2 must really be something because to my ears the 1 is perfect!! I'm loving it! :rock:
 
Had the 50 watt Ace combo 2x12. Really liked it but let it go eventually because I couldn't lift it into the car anymore. Heavy heavy amp.
 
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