Mods - We Need a New Rule

[The~Kid]

You are the drag here man. If you don't recognize how your behavior here affects people, then I suggest you seek help.

PS: To your other comment in that other thread, I was in Michigan most of all of last week. You on the other hand appear to be here 24x7 and always have to have the last word.

@VonBonfire - I know you and two other members have a soft spot for this Kid, but he doesn't fit in here and is a cancer here imo.

Yeah fuck off dude and go back to TGP..... Or your "vacation". What a fucking SJW.....


Fucking loser...... Can you believe this fucking guy

 

[japetus]

HEAR YE HEAR YE
THE MODS COUNCIL HAS MET

It has been ruled..that there shall be no new rules!!

 

[MadAsAHatter]

You are the drag here man. If you don't recognize how your behavior here affects people, then I suggest you seek help.

PS: To your other comment in that other thread, I was in Michigan most of all of last week. You on the other hand appear to be here 24x7 and always have to have the last word.

@VonBonfire - I know you and two other members have a soft spot for this Kid, but he doesn't fit in here and is a cancer here imo.

When you make an honest comparison Kid is more of a detriment to the forum that shitville dan was. At least shithead dan had the decency to know when to bow out and deleted his account.

 

[IndyWS6]

HEAR YE HEAR YE
THE MODS COUNCIL HAS MET

It has been ruled..that there shall be no new rules!!

Well, damn. Had to ask…

 

[VonBonfire]

@VonBonfire - I know you and two other members have a soft spot for this Kid, but he doesn't fit in here and is a cancer here imo.

I don't fit in here either. If people continue to engage him negatively, he will continue to respond negatively. Let him say what he wants without endless retorts and it'll be a non-issue. If you are trying to convince him he's wrong, you're going to lose.

 

[VonBonfire]

When you make an honest comparison Kid is more of a detriment to the forum that shitville dan was. At least shithead dan had the decency to know when to bow out and deleted his account.

Nah, disagree. Sharvell dan was spam posting all day in OT, posting stuff with the sole intention of pissing people off, starting fights with people for zero reason. He bowed out because people were on his case and he couldn't deal with it like a man, instead crying about class action lawsuits and local harassment ordinances. I'll take the-kid anytime. The same can be said for that foul mouthed bum no hassle who has never made a guitar related post but just rants about jews all day.

 

[Floyd Eye]

You are the drag here man. If you don't recognize how your behavior here affects people, then I suggest you seek help.

PS: To your other comment in that other thread, I was in Michigan most of all of last week. You on the other hand appear to be here 24x7 and always have to have the last word.

@VonBonfire - I know you and two other members have a soft spot for this Kid, but he doesn't fit in here and is a cancer here imo.

He's got either his mom or his boyfriend running cover for him in that thread now. I would consider it is just him using an alt, but the mom/boyfriend has far better grammar than I think he could muster.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I don't fit in here either. If people continue to engage him negatively, he will continue to respond negatively. Let him say what he wants without endless retorts and it'll be a non-issue. If you are trying to convince him he's wrong, you're going to lose.

You fit in just fine. You're a troll but not a destructive one. I find some of it monotonous, but its all in good fun so no harm no foul. Kid on the other hand drags the entire forum down with his shit. He's basically shitville dan part 2, but drags his shit into the main forum. I know you've seen his whole 20 watt speaker tirade and that's spreading shit info to the gear community. Seriously how can you defend someone who is arguing with an industry expert? At that point when an expert says your wrong most people would at minimum bow out. But Kid keeps on harping on it and shits on the expert and his business. Yeah, several people including myself are giving him shit about it. Like shithead dan all the crap he's catching he brought on himself.

Kid kinda listens to you. Maybe PM him and tell him to cool it with the retardation and stay in his lane; i.e. listen to people with experience and not interject his I heard it on TGP wisdom. If he slows down with his dumb crap there's a decent chance people will stop shitting on him and leave things be.

PS I realize I used the words shit and crap a lot in my post.

 

[VonBonfire]

Seriously how can you defend someone who is arguing with an industry expert? At that point when an expert says your wrong most people would at minimum bow out. But Kid keeps on harping on it and shits on the expert and his business. Yeah, several people including myself are giving him shit about it. Like shithead dan all the crap he's catching he brought on himself.

I don't think a big deal needed to be made about it. It turned into over 50 pages of what amounted to nothing. If he's wrong, then it's demonstrably so and nothing more needs to be said. Let him talk. Every reply arguing with his claim is giving him the chance for another rebuttal. Cut it off at the knees and don't reply, or just quote what your industry expert said and leave it at that. Seems pretty straightforward.

Kid kinda listens to you. Maybe PM him and tell him to cool it with the retardation and stay in his lane; i.e. listen to people with experience and not interject his I heard it on TGP wisdom. If he slows down with his dumb crap there's a decent chance people will stop shitting on him and leave things be.

He's not violating any forum rules. I would advise him to cool it a little bit if he asked but I'm not gonna PM him about it. He's arguing with people I like but I'm not really wanting to get into the middle of an argument about Van Halen speakers. I don't even like Van Halen and I also mostly hate low wattage speakers so it's not a war I'm partial to jumping into.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

i don't think a big deal needed to be made about it. It turned into over 50 pages of what amounted to nothing. If he's wrong, then it's demonstrably so and nothing more needs to be said. Let him talk. Every reply arguing with his claim is giving him the chance for another rebuttal. Cut it off at the knees and don't reply, or just quote what your industry expert said and leave it at that. Seems pretty straightforward.

The fault in thinking ignoring him will result in cutting things off at the knees is it doesn't work. Many of us have tried that approach. Kid will continually bump threads replying to himself with bad info regardless if other engage with him or not. That or he'll quote a post from someone who corrected him months prior with more bad info or random ad hominem just to bump a dead thread.

Letting him talk isn't a good strategy either, especially when he's spreading bad info about gear in the main forum. How would you take it and react if he was constantly spreading incorrect information about Orthodoxy? Would you just let him talk? Or would you correct him and keep pushing back every time he responded to you with more off base bullshit he knew nothing about?

 

[Picasso]

You are the drag here man. If you don't recognize how your behavior here affects people, then I suggest you seek help.

PS: To your other comment in that other thread, I was in Michigan most of all of last week. You on the other hand appear to be here 24x7 and always have to have the last word.

@VonBonfire - I know you and two other members have a soft spot for this Kid, but he doesn't fit in here and is a cancer here imo.

I don't know, I like a lot of people here. There are a few faggots I can't stand and The~Kid is definitely not one of them. He truly takes a stand behind what he believes, never backs down and calls out the leftist faggots constantly. I dig that and I wish more did it as well. That's where I stand, so be it.

 

[VonBonfire]

The fault in thinking ignoring him will result in cutting things off at the knees is it doesn't work. Many of us have tried that approach. Kid will continually bump threads replying to himself with bad info regardless if other engage with him or not. That or he'll quote a post from someone who corrected him months prior with more bad info or random ad hominem just to bump a dead thread.

It worked for me. I'm not gonna beef with members over EVH gear even if their info sucks or is what I view as wrong. Bowing up on him and insulting the dude hasn't worked, he just pushes back that much harder. He is as good as dishing it out at he is at taking it. That's the wrong person to tangle with over petty arguments IMO. Not worth the time.

How would you take it and react if he was constantly spreading incorrect information about Orthodoxy? Would you just let him talk? Or would you correct him and keep pushing back every time he responded to you with more off base bullshit he knew nothing about?

That's a good point but I'm not interested in publicly discussing orthodox theology with non-orthodox people anymore because it's like arguing spelling with someone who can't even read. If someone asked me and he chimed in with bad info I call it bad info and move on. If someone wants to take his word on it that's not within my control.

 

[Robostyle]

The fault in thinking ignoring him will result in cutting things off at the knees is it doesn't work.

i have him on ignore, and i can 100% guarantee you that it works.
The posting style itself is why i did it.
The spacing, repeated use of the same words, constant bumping and always having to have the last word.
I don't even care what he has to say, it's irrelevant.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

It worked for me. I'm not gonna beef with members over EVH gear even if their info sucks or is what I view as wrong. Bowing up on him and insulting the dude hasn't worked, he just pushes back that much harder. He is as good as dishing it out at he is at taking it. That's the wrong person to tangle with over petty arguments IMO. Not worth the time.

That's just being complacent. It's a big reason we got to where we are with shitlib politics; being complacent and not pushing back on it. If it were cut off from the start we might be in a much better place.

Let me put it another way. Pushing back on someone when they are spewing bad info helps curtail that bad info being passed to those who are new to gear and don't know any better. And it helps to stop the spread. Granted this example is more dangerous than guitar gear, but there's a similar situation in the woodworking world. People like Kid with little experience spout horrible 100% incorrect advice that could result in newcomers who are unaware losing fingers, having life altering injuries, and even death. When I first started out I had a few close calls by not knowing some of the advice was inherently wrong. The sad part is this "wisdom" is still floating out there and being spread. Youtube has made it worse. There's a conscious effort by knowledgeable experts to try to slow it down so people don't get hurt.

Like I said, the woodworking is on the extreme side because serious injuries can result. When I see someone digging in with such horrid info and incorrect forum wisdom I think back to some of those close calls I had because of that. Experienced people will recognize it as shit, but newcomers won't. I don't want to see a newcomer basically get fucked from the beginning. The more complacent we are about it the more this type of forum wisdom will continue to permeate and the higher the chance a beginner will get fucked right from the start.

And Kid is not good at dishing it out or taking it. About the only thing he is good at is backing himself into a corner and making himself look like a fool by resorting to nonsensical gibberish and ad hominem attacks when asked to explain himself. Kind of like a few OTC libtards when they say something stupid and have no ground to stand on when pressed to elaborate.

That's a good point but I'm not interested in publicly discussing orthodox theology with non-orthodox people anymore because it's like arguing spelling with someone who can't even read. If someone asked me and he chimed in with bad info I call it bad info and move on. If someone wants to take his word on it that's not within my control.

I wasn't talking about having a general discussion about Orthodoxy with someone. I was talking about dealing with someone who operates like Kid.

Let's say this was an an Orthodox forum. Someone with little to no experience with Orthodoxy; but who presented themselves as an expert, kept rolling into threads going on and on and on misquoting and misrepresenting the Orthodox bible, church and teachings. On top of that everything they were saying are misrepresentations of old that people have been trying to correct for a long time. Would you just say nothing or maybe say "no you're wrong" once and move on? Or would you feel compelled to push back and show this guy doesn't know what he's talking about so his constant "wisdom" perpetuating multiple threads wouldn't lead a newcomer astray right from the start?

This is the whole point of giving Kid the crap he's brought on himself. This forum wisdom needs to be slowed down and people continuing to perpetuate it need to be shown they don't know what they're talking about. The effort is to cut off newcomers from being lead astray. Like I presented would you want someone joining the Orthodox church to be lead astray right off the bat by someone with zero clue?

 

[CRAIG4FSU]

I think we should ban anyone suggesting banning.

No kidding. Go outside for a while.

 

[Picasso]

No kidding. Go outside for a while.

...or cook something.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

i have him on ignore, and i can 100% guarantee you that it works.
The posting style itself is why i did it.
The spacing, repeated use of the same words, constant bumping and always having to have the last word.
I don't even care what he has to say, it's irrelevant.

That's fine for OTC. I don't have him on ignore, but generally scroll past his posts. 99% of what he says here is just wokemerican yelling at the clouds nonsense or random bickering anyway.

It's a different situation in the main forum where much of this is stemming from. As I was saying to Von above, he continually rolls into threads acting like the expert on everything spouting long disproven TGP forum wisdom like it's absolute fact. He'll dig his heels in defending the garbage info to the death. To those with actual first hand experience it's clear he has zero clue and is just rattling off stuff he heard someone say once. That's not necessarily the case for someone who's inexperienced. If Kid's bullshit in the main forum goes unchecked there's a good chance that inexperienced person will take Kid at his word and fuck themselves up from the get go. The crap Kid's catching from people is to cut that off before it happens.

 

[Picasso]

I can’t stand WokeMericans!

 

[The~Kid]

That's fine for OTC. I don't have him on ignore, but generally scroll past his posts. 99% of what he says here is just wokemerican yelling at the clouds nonsense or random bickering anyway.

It's a different situation in the main forum where much of this is stemming from. As I was saying to Von above, he continually rolls into threads acting like the expert on everything spouting long disproven TGP forum wisdom like it's absolute fact. He'll dig his heels in defending the garbage info to the death. To those with actual first hand experience it's clear he has zero clue and is just rattling off stuff he heard someone say once. That's not necessarily the case for someone who's inexperienced. If Kid's bullshit in the main forum goes unchecked there's a good chance that inexperienced person will take Kid at his word and fuck themselves up from the get go. The crap Kid's catching from people is to cut that off before it happens.

Bro you're advising people do shit that will blow up their speakers and amps.....



Pretty much stupid shit not even fuckers in a 3rd world country would be stupid enough to do......


Can you please just shut the fuck up already along with everyone else and stop being such an unbearable SJW already. Who's got time for this shit anyways...... Dude just look at yourself in the mirror and look at what's staring back. What a fucking soccer mom and as said unbearable SJW.

Your Shameless ass is even in cohorts with Polish/Charvel Dan or whatever.... Just stop embarrassing yourself already bro.

 

[The~Kid]

That's just being complacent. It's a big reason we got to where we are with shitlib politics; being complacent and not pushing back on it. If it were cut off from the start we might be in a much better place.

Let me put it another way. Pushing back on someone when they are spewing bad info helps curtail that bad info being passed to those who are new to gear and don't know any better. And it helps to stop the spread. Granted this example is more dangerous than guitar gear, but there's a similar situation in the woodworking world. People like Kid with little experience spout horrible 100% incorrect advice that could result in newcomers who are unaware losing fingers, having life altering injuries, and even death. When I first started out I had a few close calls by not knowing some of the advice was inherently wrong. The sad part is this "wisdom" is still floating out there and being spread. Youtube has made it worse. There's a conscious effort by knowledgeable experts to try to slow it down so people don't get hurt.

Like I said, the woodworking is on the extreme side because serious injuries can result. When I see someone digging in with such horrid info and incorrect forum wisdom I think back to some of those close calls I had because of that. Experienced people will recognize it as shit, but newcomers won't. I don't want to see a newcomer basically get fucked from the beginning. The more complacent we are about it the more this type of forum wisdom will continue to permeate and the higher the chance a beginner will get fucked right from the start.

And Kid is not good at dishing it out or taking it. About the only thing he is good at is backing himself into a corner and making himself look like a fool by resorting to nonsensical gibberish and ad hominem attacks when asked to explain himself. Kind of like a few OTC libtards when they say something stupid and have no ground to stand on when pressed to elaborate.


I wasn't talking about having a general discussion about Orthodoxy with someone. I was talking about dealing with someone who operates like Kid.

Let's say this was an an Orthodox forum. Someone with little to no experience with Orthodoxy; but who presented themselves as an expert, kept rolling into threads going on and on and on misquoting and misrepresenting the Orthodox bible, church and teachings. On top of that everything they were saying are misrepresentations of old that people have been trying to correct for a long time. Would you just say nothing or maybe say "no you're wrong" once and move on? Or would you feel compelled to push back and show this guy doesn't know what he's talking about so his constant "wisdom" perpetuating multiple threads wouldn't lead a newcomer astray right from the start?

This is the whole point of giving Kid the crap he's brought on himself. This forum wisdom needs to be slowed down and people continuing to perpetuate it need to be shown they don't know what they're talking about. The effort is to cut off newcomers from being lead astray. Like I presented would you want someone joining the Orthodox church to be lead astray right off the bat by someone with zero clue?

Yeah tell me about it.....

Often you are the one being reasonable with libtards, and well here you are acting like some libtard..... Backed into a corner after being called out for your stupid shit suggesting people do things that may lead to the their speakers and amps getting busted.....

Your bitch ass ain't replacing their stuff if things go wrong right...... So why you angry for your calling your bitch ass out about it.



Stop being a whinny SJW and give it a rest already.