neckplate plastic piece affects tone???

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JerryP":85fwihdx said:
Sorry guys this is my own proprietary design I came up with. I can tell you one secret is to wash the shoe laces in Gain Spring Fresh scent and use 1 Bounce dryer sheet. Use cold water.
Jerry
Liar, all you amp builders/designers always trying to cover up your techniques....I saw a video of you once and you turned the washing machine knob at the last second and turned the water to warm/hot.....guess you thought the camera was off.....you sir are a liar by stating cold water here...unless it is a new mod??? :D :lol: :LOL:
 
sandman31774":3m5gpkpm said:
JerryP":3m5gpkpm said:
Sorry guys this is my own proprietary design I came up with. I can tell you one secret is to wash the shoe laces in Gain Spring Fresh scent and use 1 Bounce dryer sheet. Use cold water.
Jerry
Liar, all you amp builders/designers always trying to cover up your techniques....I saw a video of you once and you turned the washing machine knob at the last second and turned the water to warm/hot.....guess you thought the camera was off.....you sir are a liar by stating cold water here...unless it is a new mod??? :D :lol: :LOL:
:lol: :LOL:

I was wise to Jerry the minute he walked up with his shoe laces covered in Epoxy Goop... :D
 
dstroud":2iz0yf1w said:
Motorpud":2iz0yf1w said:
https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=83241&p=973905&hilit=plastic+neck+plate#p973905

thanks man, I had searched and found another one, but I didn't see this one.

No problem :thumbsup:
 
JerryP":1x57y7er said:
I find black shoes laces have a much bigger affect on my tone. If you cut those plastic things off the end of the shoe lace it really opens the amp up. The notes jump off the fret board and you get a more organic sonic ratio to the wood grain factor.
Jerry

I prefer red shoestrings because the red Dunlop Jazz III's sound better than the black ones do.............
 
hawkeye17":2chlbxrn said:
JerryP":2chlbxrn said:
I find black shoes laces have a much bigger affect on my tone. If you cut those plastic things off the end of the shoe lace it really opens the amp up. The notes jump off the fret board and you get a more organic sonic ratio to the wood grain factor.
Jerry

I prefer red shoestrings because the red Dunlop Jazz III's sound better than the black ones do.............

the red III's stay tied longer and are not as hard to pull
 
Mailman1971":3alus2ip said:
I was wise to Jerry the minute he walked up with his shoe laces covered in Epoxy Goop... :D


I don't use it anymore. :lol: :LOL:
Jerry
 
I don't know if it affects my tone or not, but I always play better after shaving my balls.
 
PeteLaramee":136iep6c said:
I don't know if it affects my tone or not, but I always play better after shaving my balls.

That's not snake oil, that's the real deal. It's a proven fact that a streamlined bag helps your tone because the bush making contact with the back of the guitar body decreases sustain :thumbsup:
 
Motorpud":vwhehp3d said:
PeteLaramee":vwhehp3d said:
It's a proven fact that a streamlined bag helps your tone because the bush making contact with the back of the guitar body decreases sustain :thumbsup:

Nobody could argue with that, perfect sense to me. :thumbsup:
 
Assuming I'm wearing the proper shoe laces, and have shaved appropriately, how does losening the neck screws work? Do you just give them all a 1/4 turn, then tighten - strings tuned to pitch?
 
Sometimes for the best tone....during the middle of playing a set....
I will take off my guitar strings....do a slight Truss rod adjustment.....re-string and then get back to playing.
 
You know guys, the double velcro closures on most of my footwear has really opened me up to a world of endless tonal possibilities. I used to think that I was in the know with the nylon shoelaces, capped of course (removing the taped ends), and then the newer poly based shoe laces (had dye issues with most of them though, poor design), but the newer velcro straps are the bomb!! I can get a whack of sparkling clears and cleans, amazing crunch, and wicked saturated high gain tones... The velcro straps also let me emulate several different cab designs and configurations. It's evolution guys, why have, like 10 pairs of laces, when you only need one pair of velcro closure shoes?? The they have updates to keep them fresh and on top of the footwear scene - totally upgradeable.

Since having my velcros, I've sold all my other old school 'lace' based footwear, haven't looked back!

V. :thumbsup:
 
Ventura":2z4zm4nj said:
You know guys, the double velcro closures on most of my footwear has really opened me up to a world of endless tonal possibilities. I used to think that I was in the know with the nylon shoelaces, capped of course (removing the taped ends), and then the newer poly based shoe laces (had dye issues with most of them though, poor design), but the newer velcro straps are the bomb!! I can get a whack of sparkling clears and cleans, amazing crunch, and wicked saturated high gain tones... The velcro straps also let me emulate several different cab designs and configurations. It's evolution guys, why have, like 10 pairs of laces, when you only need one pair of velcro closure shoes?? The they have updates to keep them fresh and on top of the footwear scene - totally upgradeable.

Since having my velcros, I've sold all my other old school 'lace' based footwear, haven't looked back!

V. :thumbsup:
Sweet........are these the ones you have?
The Multicolor racing stripes I should make you play FASTER I bet. :rock:
 
Ventura":4c5opr4p said:
You know guys, the double velcro closures on most of my footwear has really opened me up to a world of endless tonal possibilities. I used to think that I was in the know with the nylon shoelaces, capped of course (removing the taped ends), and then the newer poly based shoe laces (had dye issues with most of them though, poor design), but the newer velcro straps are the bomb!! I can get a whack of sparkling clears and cleans, amazing crunch, and wicked saturated high gain tones... The velcro straps also let me emulate several different cab designs and configurations. It's evolution guys, why have, like 10 pairs of laces, when you only need one pair of velcro closure shoes?? The they have updates to keep them fresh and on top of the footwear scene - totally upgradeable.

Since having my velcros, I've sold all my other old school 'lace' based footwear, haven't looked back!

V. :thumbsup:
Hmmm...I'm detecting a cryptic analogy here. :confused:
I'm probably just imagining it. Anyway, will these velcro shoes allow me to axe my effects?
 
rupe":h3la2i24 said:
Ventura":h3la2i24 said:
You know guys, the double velcro closures on most of my footwear has really opened me up to a world of endless tonal possibilities. I used to think that I was in the know with the nylon shoelaces, capped of course (removing the taped ends), and then the newer poly based shoe laces (had dye issues with most of them though, poor design), but the newer velcro straps are the bomb!! I can get a whack of sparkling clears and cleans, amazing crunch, and wicked saturated high gain tones... The velcro straps also let me emulate several different cab designs and configurations. It's evolution guys, why have, like 10 pairs of laces, when you only need one pair of velcro closure shoes?? The they have updates to keep them fresh and on top of the footwear scene - totally upgradeable.

Since having my velcros, I've sold all my other old school 'lace' based footwear, haven't looked back!

V. :thumbsup:
Hmmm...I'm detecting a cryptic analogy here. :confused:
I'm probably just imagining it. Anyway, will these velcro shoes allow me to axe my effects?
Actually with these High Tec shoes....you can add a Effect pedal in place where the Gameboy is.
Just be careful not to trip over the cords....
and they are Stylish as all hell.....
you will be the envy of your bandmates.
 
AndyK":3qdsogcp said:
Assuming I'm wearing the proper shoe laces, and have shaved appropriately, how does losening the neck screws work? Do you just give them all a 1/4 turn, then tighten - strings tuned to pitch?

Usually just a couple of turns will work, and you will hear the neck "pop" into the joint. Your string will go flat, so you will want to retune, and intonate.
 
rupe":19oy9tea said:
Ventura":19oy9tea said:
You know guys, the double velcro closures on most of my footwear has really opened me up to a world of endless tonal possibilities. I used to think that I was in the know with the nylon shoelaces, capped of course (removing the taped ends), and then the newer poly based shoe laces (had dye issues with most of them though, poor design), but the newer velcro straps are the bomb!! I can get a whack of sparkling clears and cleans, amazing crunch, and wicked saturated high gain tones... The velcro straps also let me emulate several different cab designs and configurations. It's evolution guys, why have, like 10 pairs of laces, when you only need one pair of velcro closure shoes?? They have updates to keep them fresh and on top of the footwear scene - totally upgradeable.

Since having my velcros, I've sold all my other old school 'lace' based footwear, haven't looked back!

V. :thumbsup:
Hmmm...I'm detecting a cryptic analogy here. :confused:
I'm probably just imagining it. Anyway, will these velcro shoes allow me to axe my effects?

DING DING DING!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!! :2thumbsup:

V.
 
ACTUAL POST INCOMING!!!!!

I started ONE of the threads about this, not saying mine was the one you saw or even the only one. I was always told that the plastic guard was only to protect the paint from cracking (which personally I could give a shit about). When reading up about Scott Henderson's Suhr guitar, he requests that the plate is taken off because he feels it effects the tone of the instrument. All things being equal, to me anything you attach to a guitar, changing the metals, tuners whether they are kluson or grovers, different pick-guard materials on a strat plastic vs. metal, it should all have some effect on tone, however marginal or significant it may be, the properties of the instrument are going to change in (in my mind at least) simply due to the composition of the instruments parts.

I personally feel it does make a bit of a difference in the attack, however subtle it maybe, however; I'm sure I didn't take the neck off and put on brand new strings, and obviously wasn't sitting in the exact same spot, there are a ton of variables. As silly as it sounds, for me I prefer just to not have plastic shit on my guitars... I don't know why, I just don't like it, if it's not necessary I remove it.

So I'm not saying it's right or wrong, or it isn't possibly a placebo effect but I personally prefer to remove that unnecessary stuff from my instruments.
 
Dallas Marlow":27mjic3u said:
ACTUAL POST INCOMING!!!!!

All things being equal, to me anything you attach to a guitar, changing the metals, tuners whether they are kluson or grovers, different pick-guard materials on a strat plastic vs. metal, it should all have some effect on tone, however marginal or significant it may be, the properties of the instrument are going to change in (in my mind at least) simply due to the composition of the instruments parts.

Well this is undeniable fact.

Anytime you change something on a guitar, it is going to affect the sound. Now wither or not the change is a "good" change is up to the end user. No two instruments are exactly alike.

If pulling the plastic plate off improved the sound to your ears, then it did. I would encourage the OP to try it for himself and see what he thinks.

I have grown to hate the term "tone" because if how people have abused it. "Tone" like there is some sort of same sonic nirvana that we are trying to achieve. What sounds great to one player, may be noise to another.

:rock:
 
Ayrton":mbseouul said:
Dallas Marlow":mbseouul said:
ACTUAL POST INCOMING!!!!!

All things being equal, to me anything you attach to a guitar, changing the metals, tuners whether they are kluson or grovers, different pick-guard materials on a strat plastic vs. metal, it should all have some effect on tone, however marginal or significant it may be, the properties of the instrument are going to change in (in my mind at least) simply due to the composition of the instruments parts.

Well this is undeniable fact.

Anytime you change something on a guitar, it is going to affect the sound. Now wither or not the change is a "good" change is up to the end user. No two instruments are exactly alike.

If pulling the plastic plate off improved the sound to your ears, then it did. I would encourage the OP to try it for himself and see what he thinks.

I have grown to hate the term "tone" because if how people have abused it. "Tone" like there is some sort of same sonic nirvana that we are trying to achieve. What sounds great to one player, may be noise to another.

:rock:

yes, I should "just do it" :) Just been super busy and I thought there might be one good universal answer that there was a definite difference and it would be this or that and I'd know wether to invest the time or not. So now I just gotta find the time! :thumbsup:
 
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