Hey Richedie let's put our differences aside on the creambacks.. I was very interested in the lynchbacks for the longest time but have not pulled the trigger yet. What are you not liking about them? Something in the lows or mids? Pesonally from what I have been reading, I think i might try the WGS retro 30. I have heard some really good sound clips. Like the bite and fullness compared to V30's or veteran 30's. (at least that is what my ear tells me, would need to play them in person to tell). I have an old G12-65 that came with my JCM800 combo. I liked it but felt it a bit flat in the highs. Maybe too smooth. that said, it has been pounded since 1982 and looked a little rough. Dare I say Creamback? lol