Old vs New Recto's

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One day those old two channel rectifiers gonna fetch prices like the late 60’s early 70’s Marshall Plexis.
Wait for it.
A whole generation of kids grew up listening to bands who played them.
Regardless of what any of us think of them.


i think they already are?? arent rev C's in the iic+ price ranges now?
 
One day those old two channel rectifiers gonna fetch prices like the late 60’s early 70’s Marshall Plexis.
Wait for it.
A whole generation of kids grew up listening to bands who played them.
Regardless of what any of us think of them.
They’re pretty much there already (for the earliest revisions) as are some mark iic+’s. Both my 1972 SuperLead 100 & Rev C Dual Rectifier are among my favorite amps, but if I was forced to keep just one it would be my Rev C for that growl on its orange channel. Traded my 1967 Marshall Tremolo 50 last year. Some of us just like good sounds independently of what bands or recordings used them. Those Marshall’s also are nowhere near as rare
 
You wanna trade it now for a MW after watching fluff’s clip?

No, but only cause chrome chassis two channels are just so sexy looking. If I was still in the market though and saw this I think it might have persuaded me in the direction of going MV or at least give it more of a look than before, especially if I was gigging still.
 
mids are often getting notched to make room for vocals tbh. shit tons of mids doesn’t always work and your studio dude might be slicing that shit out without you even noticing.
This is true but even more true for music with real singing where the character of the vocal track carries everything. A lot of times in death metal and other subgenres with “extreme” vocals the vocal is more buried under the guitars than you would find on more traditional heavy metal and especially anything more mainstream. In extreme metal its like everything rides on the success of the instrument tracks whereas in other music it’s the vocal tracks.

In stuff closer to pop music it’s funny when you pay attention to a mix how little of a guitar track actually gets into it. Unless it’s a really stripped down arrangement, acoustic guitars sometimes have nothing left but the trebly aound of the strings and you could almost mistake it for a shaker.
 
He's always sounded like that. He has kinda Unique Delivery. Like The Bob Ross of Amp Videos. Here's a Happy Little Riff for ya.
I think that bothers me a fair bit. Anyone who doesn’t slam something occasionally for sucking I’m skeptical of taking seriously. Not every piece of gear out there is good. Some shit just sucks. But when it’s a sponsored video of course it’s all good.
 
I have a Tremoverb and a 3 channel. No interest in any other.
 
Mannnnn if I had to pick ONE frequency that continuously gets cut in…. Well, just about any instrument, it would be 350hz! Or 330, or 300, something around there. That range sounds absolutely garbage on just about anything. I’m not saying it needs to be gone from a mix completely, but it sure as hell doesn’t get boosted, and that range sounds absolutely terrible on just about any drum as well.

@anomaly I know what you are saying about guitars being a midrange instrument, all I’m saying is all these arbitrary ideas people come up with about guitars in a mix just doesn’t really equate to how things are in the real world. I can make a guitar sound choked and distant with tons of mids, and cut like a knife with scooped mids. It’s all about the mix. But generally speaking, tones that people think are mid heavy, in general aren’t even close to that. Most modern signal chains have excessive midrange ( 5150, Mesa cab, 808, sm57 for example), and it needs to be cut drastically sometimes to not sound like a bloated body mess. 350-500hz is the enemy of all things guitar, or mixing in general.
Dude, I'd worry more about 500hz, actually 500 - 800hz. 360 - 370hz is great for adding warmth, punch, and is especially good for lead tones. You know that tent they made for Hetfield on the black album? That was to capture more of the frequencies in the 300 - 400hz area on the room mics. That was supposedly the key frequency to Hetfields rhythm tone, and gave his palm mutes a unique punchy sound.

You know the 240hz slider on a Mark series amplifier? It's actually centered around 371hz and when you see pics of Hetfields live rig during the early 90's he had his 240hz and 2200hz sliders dimed, that's where he was getting all his cut, because his 750hz slider was cut dramatically. I know that that slider is great for adding some punch and thickness to a guitar tone, but not too much or it does get muddy. Depends on the guitar being used as well. A thin sounding guitar I would have that slider above the middle line.

All guitar tones are mid heavy in reality. Where do you think the grind comes from? The mids. Even Dimebag had more mids than you think, especially on FBD and TGSTK. But that kinda scooped guitar tone only works when you make the guitars the focal instrument and work your mix around the guitars. You gotta thin out the drums, and lower the bass to make that kinda scooped Vulgar Display Of Power tone work for you. VDOP is a great sounding record, but they don't make records like that anymore for a reason. You notice that the guitars on records like VDOP and ...and justice for all are not even low cut? Because the bass was mixed so low and was so thinned out.
 
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They can be killer...the first one I had was a blackout serial 3400 or so; great amp. Next one was a black/chrome, in the 4K range but wasn't nearly as good as the first one. Still good tho....but the 2 Fs I had were a step up for sure. Kinda like your C+.....compared to other Marks, your C+ has something extra going on..however you want to describe it...it's real, and you can hear the obvious differences. This is very similar to the early Rectos I've owned. The later ones are great, the earlier ones on another level IMO.
IMO the earlier ones like the Rev C and D are much different, while I think the multiwatt rectos sound pretty damn close to a rev F or G, they get those tones pretty convincingly.
 
for me around 3k'ish
I think of it more like a combination of the low mids and very high mids, almost in treble territory. 3k is where all the attack is, pick attack and such, but it's also the top of that grindy area.
 
Im good with ANY dual or triple rec. of course my Hermanson is my favorite but it’s does not matter for me . With a boost I’ll be ok with any rec
 
Im good with ANY dual or triple rec. of course my Hermanson is my favorite but it’s does not matter for me . With a boost I’ll be ok with any rec
You say that now, but try a Rev C or D and you may feel differently after. Tropicana vs Fresh Squeezed. I could also boost any rec and be “ok” with it, but I wanna be more than ok lol. The Hermansson one I’m sure would be tighter & more attack-y than any other. That seems to be his thing. For stock ones at least I find my Bad Lander to be the tightest recto I’ve tried. I bet that could be a cool platform for Hermansson to do his thing on it
 
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You say that now, but try a Rev C or D and you may feel differently after. Tropicana vs Fresh Squeezed. I could also boost any rec and be “ok” with it, but I wanna be more than ok lol. The Hermansson one I’m sure would be tighter than any other. That seems to be his thing. For stock ones at least I find my Bad Lander to be the tightest recto I’ve tried. I bet that could be a cool one if Hermansson did his thing on it
I’ve tried them all . I just know the dna and how to get what I want out of them. I honestly loved every recto I’ve played after boosted and gated . Plugging straight not all are good . But they all can be for me atleast
 
I’ve tried them all . I just know the dna and how to get what I want out of them. I honestly loved every recto I’ve played after boosted and gated . Plugging straight not all are good . But they all can be for me atleast
Yes, that’s why I used the Tropicana vs fresh squeezed analogy because the flavor itself is roughly the same, but not the quality/complexity of tone in the various versions just like the various levels of those juices lol. I also boost them to get my ideal sound with them

They all can be for me as well and sound great… unless they’re lined up side by side where the quality differences in tone get exposed. That’s what I care about
 
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