Positive Grid Bias - amp suggestions

[prsplayer86]

I'm trying to get some usable tones out of bias. So far, I've found 1 really good sounding higher gain amp on there (Framus Cobra).
It's actually an odd situation. The Framus sounded really good, fun to play, and tracked well. I doubled the track with the VH4 setting that comes with bias.. It didn't have that tiny sound I found so many other amps to have. Every other amp I've downloaded and tried sounded similar to an old zoom multi fx/distortion pedal. Almost like its in a can, or an old van down by the river.

Before the suggestion come up, I've attempted with both the cab bypassed, and almost every other cab option.

So my question, Who's using it and what amps work for you?


Here's my first attempt at recording both Bias and using Ezdrummer2 (freaking love that program)

https://soundcloud.com/chuck-dees-916047231/41-riffage (2 guitar tracks panned L&R and drums spread throughout the mix)


FYI
(I'm not looking to replace my real amps in the studio or live situations, but this is amazing for song writing or turning riffs into portions of a song. Finding other usable amps would be helpful for sure.)

 

[lll]

BIAS is the first modeler I've dug. I started using it a couple years ago and I'm hooked.

I'm old school for favorite tones, so a few fave BIAS amps that come to mind are:

69 superlead
Boogie MkIIc+
59 tweed lux

Sometimes I like to use my own stash of speaker iRs, so I'll bypass the BIAS speaker.

Here's my latest YouTube vid (actual playing starts around 11:00 mark

 

[cardinal]

I like various Marshall sims (the 1987, 1959, and JCM 800), the Recto, and the IIC+. The JCM 800 needed some tweaking to get right (I forget what, exactly, something in the power amp settings, I think). But the others sounded pretty good to me right away.

 

[prsplayer86]

Damn, that sounded good man!

BIAS is the first modeler I've dug. I started using it a couple years ago and I'm hooked.

I'm old school for favorite tones, so a few fave BIAS amps that come to mind are:

69 superlead
Boogie MkIIc+
59 tweed lux

Sometimes I like to use my own stash of speaker iRs, so I'll bypass the BIAS speaker.

Here's my latest YouTube vid (actual playing starts around 11:00 mark

 

[mchn13]

I only have bias on my iPad. What pack is the cobra? Yours sounded sick.. I've been using the old Mesa kinda amp mostly and one I made to be like my vht. Both still have a weird vowel quality tho..

 

[prsplayer86]

Thanks!
That vowel description is exactly what I'm talking about.

I just went on the cloud and looked at the popular option. It was the only Framus Cobra that I saw on there. The vh4 that comes with it wasn't bad but the Framus was the best amp Ive found. I even tried all of fluffs and they all had that vowel tone to them. Like an odd eq pedal was in front of it.

I only have bias on my iPad. What pack is the cobra? Yours sounded sick.. I've been using the old Mesa kinda amp mostly and one I made to be like my vht. Both still have a weird vowel quality tho..

 

[mchn13]

Thanks!
That vowel description is exactly what I'm talking about.

I just went on the cloud and looked at the popular option. It was the only Framus Cobra that I saw on there. The vh4 that comes with it wasn't bad but the Framus was the best amp Ive found. I even tried all of fluffs and they all had that vowel tone to them. Like an odd eq pedal was in front of it.

I only have bias on my iPad. What pack is the cobra? Yours sounded sick.. I've been using the old Mesa kinda amp mostly and one I made to be like my vht. Both still have a weird vowel quality tho..

My second try with the recto model I tweaked is getting better. I kicked off the boost and any extra eq I had running, and just concentrated on the amp eq and adjusting the pre and post and cab in bias to try to get it more even sounding. Still not there but getting closer. For some reason I'm having problems uploading to soundcloud or I'd post them... What are you using for drum loops?

 

[prsplayer86]

Ez drummer. I could use this for a recording or demo, but I'm just going to use it for pre pro and songwriting. It's crazy how good software has come in the last 5 years

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My second try with the recto model I tweaked is getting better. I kicked off the boost and any extra eq I had running, and just concentrated on the amp eq and adjusting the pre and post and cab in bias to try to get it more even sounding. Still not there but getting closer. For some reason I'm having problems uploading to soundcloud or I'd post them... What are you using for drum loops?[/quote]

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Amp match is what really interests me about bias. A little fuzzier to my ear but in a mix I think you don't hear much difference.

 

[mchn13]

https://soundcloud.com/mchn13/my-song-2 This was my attempt with my second pass at this clip tweaking it with bias. Getting closer.....

 

[Chubtone]

BIAS is the first modeler I've dug. I started using it a couple years ago and I'm hooked.

I'm old school for favorite tones, so a few fave BIAS amps that come to mind are:

69 superlead
Boogie MkIIc+
59 tweed lux

Sometimes I like to use my own stash of speaker iRs, so I'll bypass the BIAS speaker.

Here's my latest YouTube vid (actual playing starts around 11:00 mark

You are using a $1600 preamp between your guitar and Bias?

 

[Chubtone]

I'd like to talk about how much you feel that preamp helps between your guitar and Bias? Is it a huge difference making the software sound and feel killer? Do you not like Bias without it?

 

[lll]

You are using a $1600 preamp between your guitar and Bias?

Yes... UA LA610MkII all-tube. Which then goes into an EMU 1820m PC interface, etc...

Like so:

guitar
|
UA LA610MkII Hi-Z in, compressor off
|
EMU 1820m
|
PC + DAW
|
BIAS VST

I'd like to talk about how much you feel that preamp helps between your guitar and Bias? Is it a huge difference making the software sound and feel killer? Do you not like Bias without it?

Good questions!

To be honest, I haven't tried the EMU 1820m's preamps with BIAS yet. I've had the LA610MkII (always my go-to preamp) way before I got BIAS.

I'd be willing to guess, however, that if there is a difference, it would be slight.

Hey, I should do a "shootout"...