PT100/PT50 poll... Which amp interests you the most?

[petethorn]

Option 2, all of the greatest tone machines I know are very simple for the most part. I feel the more complex they get you start losing things like articulation, string definition, and feel. Mesa lately is very guilty of this except for their new electrodyne. Fortin seemed to crack this code with the Meathead imo but you will pay for it. The VHT DL series is a good example of less = more.

This is pretty true, but alot of guys want every sound in one box. So you go for the fight of versatility vs. an amp that does fewer things. You're almost selling to 2 very different types of buyers....Not everyone can afford to have 2, 3, or 10 great amps
Which I suppose is the point of this thread, what does the market want

yeah, exactly. I think we are evenly split, there seems to be equal interest in a 100W monster and a lower power, stripped down smaller amp (still with monster tone .

 

[Bishop5150]

I'll take a PT100 please sir.

 

[glassjaw7]

More and more lately, I'm finding that I love the feel and bass response of a 100 watter even for bedroom playing. They just seem to hold together better even at low volume.

But there is something to be said about cranking up a low watt combo or head too. I guess they both interest me.

 

[Marshall Freak]

Option 2, all of the greatest tone machines I know are very simple for the most part. I feel the more complex they get you start losing things like articulation, string definition, and feel. Mesa lately is very guilty of this except for their new electrodyne. Fortin seemed to crack this code with the Meathead imo but you will pay for it. The VHT DL series is a good example of less = more.

This is pretty true, but alot of guys want every sound in one box. So you go for the fight of versatility vs. an amp that does fewer things. You're almost selling to 2 very different types of buyers....Not everyone can afford to have 2, 3, or 10 great amps
Which I suppose is the point of this thread, what does the market want

I don't see any reason why the guys working on this amp can't "Crack the code" too.

It's not even about affording different tones, I don't want to have to drag 5 different amps and 6 cabs on stage to get the sounds I need. I get home late enough and tired enough from gigs as it is.

 

[rupe]

I voted 1 out of those options. What I'd really love to see is a ~20w 3-channel head. There seems to be a lack of low wattage multi-channel switchers...something decent for small clubs and home use where 100w isn't needed.

 

[Marshall Freak]

I voted 1 out of those options. What I'd really love to see is a ~20w 3-channel head. There seems to be a lack of low wattage multi-channel switchers...something decent for small clubs and home use where 100w isn't needed.

That would be a cool amp, but I'd like to see them stick with EL34's, maybe 35 watts or something? For the most part, I don't like EL84's at all, especially the low end.

 

[Nico]

I voted 1 out of those options. What I'd really love to see is a ~20w 3-channel head. There seems to be a lack of low wattage multi-channel switchers...something decent for small clubs and home use where 100w isn't needed.

That would be a cool amp, but I'd like to see them stick with EL34's, maybe 35 watts or something? For the most part, I don't like EL84's at all, especially the low end.

I don't seem to find such a difference between 35w and 50w. I much rather have the 50w just in case...
I really don't believe that a larger wattage amp per se sounds worse than a lower wattage amp at lower volume. I found 100w monsters sound incredible at low volumes... That being said and apart from wattage I hope the MIDI is optional because I don't want to pay for features I don't use.

 

[Seitz333]

Hmmm... I love my PT100 and to be honest I would not change a thing, maybe add a 1/2 power switch for those that want it??? I know the question did not ask about price but I think you have to take it into consideration. I would think a 3-4 channel 100w midi head would be in the 4k range. I doubt many people are going to put down 4k, it seems that 3k is about the edge people are willing to pay for a new head these days. We can all say we would like the 100w midi head but how many of those are actually going to put down the 4k (assuming that is the price). I would think for Suhr the 20w head would be a good choice assuming it could come in under 2k.

Chuck

 

[garbagetruckdriver]

I spent enough years of my life repairing electrical appliances. One truth is that the more complex they are, the more that can fail. Guitar amps are fragile enough as they are. For that reason, I say:

If you want to develop midi switching, make it in a separate module. Integrating it into the amp means that when something goes wrong, you lose the whole amp. Making it modular means if anything goes wrong, we can replace one simple module, or in case of emergency we can fall back to the footswitch tap-dance and get through the gig.

You could also sell more of these modular midi-add on modules to existing PT-100/ OD-100/etc. owners...
(I'd buy a Suhr branded midi module over the amp gizmo just on Suhr reputation and the promise of seamless integration)

Oh, for the new PT-100 can we PLEASE have a standby switch on the front? It may not be an issue for everyone, but damn it is a pain in the ass for some of us.

 

[Rayneman]

Where's the "I like my PT100 the way it is" option?

 

[Rayneman]

Oh, for the new PT-100 can we PLEASE have a standby switch on the front? It may not be an issue for everyone, but damn it is a pain in the ass for some of us.

No shit. On my PT100, a $2.6K+ amp, the supplied AC cable doesn't sit so well in its recepticle, so often when I reach behind the amp, over the rack case that often sits upon it, I brush the power cable whilst trying to find the standby and BAM it shuts off. DAMN. Otherwise its slick as owl shit.

 

[Nico]

Oh, for the new PT-100 can we PLEASE have a standby switch on the front? It may not be an issue for everyone, but damn it is a pain in the ass for some of us.

No shit. On my PT100, a $2.6K+ amp, the supplied AC cable doesn't sit so well in its recepticle, so often when I reach behind the amp, over the rack case that often sits upon it, I brush the power cable whilst trying to find the standby and BAM it shuts off. DAMN. Otherwise its slick as owl shit.

+1 I hate some controls of the back of amps, it makes no sense at all.... specially something like the stanby switch...

 

[petethorn]

Don't worry, I'm with you guys on the "no controls on the back" thing. After using my PT100's on the road for over 2 years now, I've actually gotten really good at adjusting the presence, feedback, loop master and standby from the front- reaching over- but it doesn't mean I wanna do it anymore!

 

[nevusofota]

Man, I sure am glad I didn't purchase a PT100 yet! Adding the midi feature is what I wanted to hear. Hopefully, as stated earlier, the tone of the original isn't altered in the new model.

 

[Seitz333]

Controls on the front. +1

For the last 2 years I have been on a search for a new amp. My choice was the PT100. I either owned or tried the following, most of the time doing a side by side A/B test against the PT100:

Mesa Trem-O-Verb
Mesa Dual Rectifier
Bogner Ecstasy 101b
Bogner Shiva
Bogner Uberschall
Soldano SLO
Soldano Hot Rod 50
Cornford MK50 II
Elmwood Modena M90
Marshall DSL2000
EVH 5150 III
Landry LS50
PWE Event Horizon
Friedman Marsha
Suhr Badger
Suhr OD50+
Splawn QuickRod
Fryette Sig X
Framus Cobra

I do have a Cameron CCV on order and due in January, that will probably be the last test... So look for either a CCV or a PT100 for sale in Jan.

Chuck

 

[Nico]

Controls on the front. +1

For the last 2 years I have been on a search for a new amp. My choice was the PT100. I either owned or tried the following, most of the time doing a side by side A/B test against the PT100:

Mesa Trem-O-Verb
Mesa Dual Rectifier
Bogner Ecstasy 101b
Bogner Shiva
Bogner Uberschall
Soldano SLO
Soldano Hot Rod 50
Cornford MK50 II
Elmwood Modena M90
Marshall DSL2000
EVH 5150 III
Landry LS50
PWE Event Horizon
Friedman Marsha
Suhr Badger
Suhr OD50+
Splawn QuickRod
Fryette Sig X
Framus Cobra

I do have a Cameron CCV on order and due in January, that will probably be the last test... So look for either a CCV or a PT100 for sale in Jan.

Chuck

Oh shit nice amp list!!! So the PT-100 is still standing huh, must be one hell of an amp. What didn't you like about the Ecstasy and the marsha???

 

[Seitz333]

Oh shit nice amp list!!! So the PT-100 is still standing huh, must be one hell of an amp. What didn't you like about the Ecstasy and the marsha???

Yeah the PT100 stands strong. Also note I'm not getting the CCV because I think something is missing from the PT100, I have just been wanting to try a CCV for a long time.

As for the Ecstasy I had one for about 5 years and actually used it as a comparison along with the the PT100. It would def be my close second choice. Would like to try a 20th anniv. The Ecstasy is a little on the dark side and for me the red channel has a smidge too much compression.

The Marsha sounds great very open and full, not compressed at all. It def does sound better when turned up. That is what I like about the PT100, you don't have to crank it to get a great tone. For me the Marsha would come in 3rd or 4th on the list. I also took into account the other options on the different amps.

If the Elmwood Modena's Channel 2 was less compressed it could have been in the number 2 or 3 spot.

Chuck

 

[hthomas]

will the 50watt have the feed back control and other controls?

 

[Mailman1971]

Anything 100 watts for me

+100 on this!!!

 

[petethorn]

will the 50watt have the feed back control and other controls?

ya know, I just am not sure.... seems like guys really like the feedback control... I was thinking no, it wouldn't, but maybe it should have it. The other thing I was thinking was on the midi head, making it midi switchable with 4 options for settings. So maybe we do that on the 50- maybe just a 3 way switch, 3 set values, not footswitchable or anything but switchable on the head. I dunno, we will see.