Quick 5150 50W clip w/d/w

[acev]

One more VH Balance type clip.

 

[harddriver]

That EVH sounds really good, I gotta say I'm impressed. What are you using for your detune effects?

 

[acev]

That EVH sounds really good, I gotta say I'm impressed. What are you using for your detune effects?

I use it with Boss MD500, pitch detune.

 

[Philhouse]

Sounds tits

 

[errrrrl]

Hey! You've come to see the show! Alright! Haven't heard roudness in forever!

 

[hammered]

Sounds awesome , dig all the tunes you covered

 

[hammered]

What's the tuning? I am guessing Drop B or B standard? Drop A another possibility. I don't think it's E standard, D standard or even Drop D. A way lower. Am I right?

Were your ears really hearing it tuned that low ?

 

[acev]

Sounds awesome , dig all the tunes you covered

Thanks !

 

[Bronco]

Thanks, WDW is the way to go

The setup is following: 2006 PRS 20th Ann Singlecut with Dragon II pickups, Line 6 helix rack (noise gate and OCD boost blocks) to EVH input. Dry cab is Engl 2x12 Pro with Celestion creamback 65. Signal is tapped via Bray LO-1 Line out box, to Boss DD500 delay. Patch is two SDE3000 delays, one 250 ms, other 500ms, panned left and right, repeats about 2-3. One delay is inverted. There is also dry in the outside cabs, as In my opinion sounds better and fuller than 100% wet (DD500 has analog dry) It needs some tweaking to get all levels balanced. From DD500 it goes to Harley Benton GPA400 power amp to two Palmer 1x12 cabs with V30.

Subscribed. Great stuff and while I don't run W/D/W anymore, I agree the wet cabs with dry mixed in do make a difference in the over all sound; just sounds fuller to me. Killer tone man!

 

[acev]

Thanks, WDW is the way to go

The setup is following: 2006 PRS 20th Ann Singlecut with Dragon II pickups, Line 6 helix rack (noise gate and OCD boost blocks) to EVH input. Dry cab is Engl 2x12 Pro with Celestion creamback 65. Signal is tapped via Bray LO-1 Line out box, to Boss DD500 delay. Patch is two SDE3000 delays, one 250 ms, other 500ms, panned left and right, repeats about 2-3. One delay is inverted. There is also dry in the outside cabs, as In my opinion sounds better and fuller than 100% wet (DD500 has analog dry) It needs some tweaking to get all levels balanced. From DD500 it goes to Harley Benton GPA400 power amp to two Palmer 1x12 cabs with V30.

Subscribed. Great stuff and while I don't run W/D/W anymore, I agree the wet cabs with dry mixed in do make a difference in the over all sound; just sounds fuller to me. Killer tone man!

Thanks ! Agree, dry is a must in wet cabs for me

 

[harddriver]

That EVH sounds really good, I gotta say I'm impressed. What are you using for your detune effects?

I use it with Boss MD500, pitch detune.

Are you using just a chorus patch? I don't see a micropitch/detune selection on the MD500. Does is allow for true micropitch detuning like the Eventide Pitchfactor?

 

[acev]

That EVH sounds really good, I gotta say I'm impressed. What are you using for your detune effects?

I use it with Boss MD500, pitch detune.

Are you using just a chorus patch? I don't see a micropitch/detune selection on the MD500. Does is allow for true micropitch detuning like the Eventide Pitchfactor?

Yes MD500 has a detune in "Overtone" effect, you can select overtone or detune. It works nicely, better than Line6 Helix pitch in my opinon. Its set to -9 +9 cents.

 

[harddriver]

I wanted to ask what you were using for your delays in the DD500. Will the DD500 do two different delay settings, one for each channel say 250ms left and 500ms right?

Does the DD500 have a SDE3000 patch? I though I remembered reading it did. Does the DD50O have a better more rack like sound quality than say a standard DD-3???

I'm looking for a better rack quality delay but still in the stereo pedal form, I think your delay sound more rack like than the DD-3's I'm using for my WDW setup.

Are the patches a pain in the ass to navigate set up on the DD500, I do like the simplicity of my DD-3's but your delays sound like a better quality delay IMO judging from your clip.

 

[errrrrl]

Man that sounds great!

 

[acev]

I wanted to ask what you were using for your delays in the DD500. Will the DD500 do two different delay settings, one for each channel say 250ms left and 500ms right?

Does the DD500 have a SDE3000 patch? I though I remembered reading it did. Does the DD50O have a better more rack like sound quality than say a standard DD-3???

I'm looking for a better rack quality delay but still in the stereo pedal form, I think your delay sound more rack like than the DD-3's I'm using for my WDW setup.

Are the patches a pain in the ass to navigate set up on the DD500, I do like the simplicity of my DD-3's but your delays sound like a better quality delay IMO judging from your clip.

Hi,

Yes, DD500 can do two seperate patches at the same time, in parallel or series. Its an V2.0 update, so you can use totally seperate presets at the same time.

It has SDE3000, SDE2000 and DD-2 mode in "Vintage Digital" settings, there also many other settings, like standard delay, dual delay, multidelay etc.

I think the delays sound pretty good, better than my Line 6 Helix Rack. SDE3000 Setting is cool, also the Multidelay (Pattern) allows for circular delay setting ala Lukather. So Im quite happy with the delay sounds.

Its also a W/D/W setup, so the effects sound much better than in the loop. I recently added a great mixer, which allows you to mix the dry sound in your path, but you can also turn it off and have full unity dry sound via switch. Also you have 3x stereo loops with own mix controls and switches. It really enhanced the sound, so I need to make some clips, it sounds better now.

http://musicomlab.com/parallelizer.htm

thanks !

 

[acev]

Man that sounds great!

Thanks, I need to do better clip, now its sounds a bit better with the "updates" in gear

 

[harddriver]

I read mostly good reviews on the DD500, there were a couple of bad ones. I can't imagine with it's processing power the delays should sound close to the quality of the SDE3000.

I read the most complaints was that the DD500 was not a stereo pedal, so basically it is like two seperate delay pedals in on housing which is fine by me because I'm using two DD-3 for my Left wet and right wet channels of my WDW. From what I gather the V2.0 firmware upgrade makes it more flexible per se.

Can you adjust the effect level dry wet of the delay in the DD500 like 50% wet/dry mix of the wet signal, like the effect level knob on my DD-3's?

Are the delay patches easy to access, program and save?

Judging form you clips I find your delays sound like a higher quality like an actual rack unit, which is what I'm looking for.

Could you do a clip of your Balance tone without the backing track in the background, so I can hear your core tone? Your 50 watt EVH sounds really good. Whats speakers are you running in the engl and wet cabs, Celestion V30's?

In what order are you running your effects, guitar>EVH 50W>lineout>Boss MD500>BossDD500>power amp

 

[acev]

I read mostly good reviews on the DD500, there were a couple of bad ones. I can't imagine with it's processing power the delays should sound close to the quality of the SDE3000.

I read the most complaints was that the DD500 was not a stereo pedal, so basically it is like two seperate delay pedals in on housing which is fine by me because I'm using two DD-3 for my Left wet and right wet channels of my WDW. From what I gather the V2.0 firmware upgrade makes it more flexible per se.

Can you adjust the effect level dry wet of the delay in the DD500 like 50% wet/dry mix of the wet signal, like the effect level knob on my DD-3's?

Are the delay patches easy to access, program and save?

Judging form you clips I find your delays sound like a higher quality like an actual rack unit, which is what I'm looking for.

Could you do a clip of your Balance tone without the backing track in the background, so I can hear your core tone? Your 50 watt EVH sounds really good. Whats speakers are you running in the engl and wet cabs, Celestion V30's?

In what order are you running your effects, guitar>EVH 50W>lineout>Boss MD500>BossDD500>power amp

I never tried SDE3000, but DD500 sounds good to me. V 2.0 has two seperate patches, series or parallel, at the same time. So you can use two SDE3000 settings, one hard left, one hard right.

DD500 has analog dry, so it has seperate control for dry level and effect level. In the clip im just using DD500, but since then I added Musicom parallelizer Mixer, which sounds even better with more overall control and 3x parallel loops with own mix controls and also direct dry level, which you can mix in.

The speakers are Creamback 65 in Engl cab and V30 in the wet cabs.

Signal was: Guitar with boost-amp-Cab for dry. Bray line out box taps the signal, sends to MD500, then to DD500, then to stereo power amp and two wet cabs. There is dry signal in wet cabs also. Like I said, since then I added a mixer. So its Guitar-amp-dry cab- Bray line out box taps signal - Parallelizer Mixer with DD500 and MD500, both in parallel 100% wet, mixer to power amp, then wet cabs. I mix about 30% dry signal in wet cabs via mixer.

With mixer it sounds better, so I recommend getting one, even though DD500 has analog dry, but its still not that pure.

I will try to do some clips in the coming days.

 

[harddriver]

I don't need the dry level from the DD500 for my dry channel, I'm using a Suhr Iso line out to tap the signal for my left and right wet channels. My dry come straight from the amp into the cab.

I did read some reviews saying the parameter editing was a pain in the ass and more complicated that it needed to be that why I have asked since you have made patches with your DD500 and wanted to get your opinion. I want something simple like, pick the emulation type, SDE3000 set the delay length, effect level, number of repeats(feedback) save the parmeters and done, call up the patches, that it. I would be using channel A L 250ms and channel B 500ms.

I set like 50% wet/dry in my wet cabinets, I also find it sounds fuller.

Since you're an EVH guy you might like this vid

 

[acev]

I don't need the dry level from the DD500 for my dry channel, I'm using a Suhr Iso line out to tap the signal for my left and right wet channels. My dry come straight from the amp into the cab.

I did read some reviews saying the parameter editing was a pain in the ass and more complicated that it needed to be that why I have asked since you have made patches with your DD500 and wanted to get your opinion. I want something simple like, pick the emulation type, SDE3000 set the delay length, effect level, number of repeats(feedback) save the parmeters and done, call up the patches, that it. I would be using channel A L 250ms and channel B 500ms.

I set like 50% wet/dry in my wet cabinets, I also find it sounds fuller.

Since you're an EVH guy you might like this vid

I also tap the signal with LO box and send that to dry cab. But Mixing "true" dry into wet cabs is different. With my mixer I run the effect 100% wet all the time and add a totaly seperate signal of dry (totally unprocessed), which you then blend in. If you have just fx and set it 50/50 its not the same.

I didnt have any problems with patches, you can set basic parameters and save it an go. I did use Axefx and Helix before, which has million of parameters, though . I made the patch in couple of minutes.

I saw that video, very cool. I think EVH runs some dry in his wet cabs, which in this video they do not.