70 Mach 1
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will you ladies stop bickering in my thread. the rule is there aint no rules
we should all know that by now. what ever get the sound gets the sound.
we should all know that by now. what ever get the sound gets the sound.
BeZo
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Yeah! Hook up that EQD depths pedal and get the warble on your blues!
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VonBonfire
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It's stupid listening to a guy talk about "classic blues tones", naming artists whose most well known recordings were using a twin reverb, which happens to be sitting right behind him, then instead he plugs into a Marshall. He's either willfully ignorant or just a moron.
Just to make sure I wasn't missing something I went and listened to the only "blues" recording he's made in 50 years and it was accordingly 25 minutes of very bland music.
70 Mach 1
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vibe sounds good on this one. I also use it to start melissa and other cleaner type intros
CoreyW
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Im still struggling to see how Univibes don't belong in blues, when we have plenty of examples just in Hendrix, and the rotary vibe effect with SRV.
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VonBonfire
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Right, it only makes sense when you realize that neither of those guys really fall into the blues genre. Rob Halford made a blues record but it doesn't mean you can shop for Judas Priest records under the blues heading. I doubt he's rocking next year's juke joint festival....
I guess it seems like I'm making up rules and that really there are no rules but get booked into an actual blues festival or club and all that stuff will likely cost you a return trip. The average blues listener doesn't want to hear a record full of univibes and wah wah pedals. It's no different than showing up to a metal fest with tan pants carrying a tele and a blues Jr rocking those edge of breakup tones. Can it be done, sure, but there will be certain people who will be turned off by it. It's just the wrong shit for the gig.
Still not convinced? Name 25 blues artists without googling it. Now you get it. You're not a blues listener.
BeZo
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rsm
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c'mon man, rulez ar rulez.
rsm
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Marshall JTM 45 "blues breaker" - it broke the bluez rulez.
it's like the first time Bob Dylan used and electric guitar at a folk festival. the folkies were not happy.
Seems some genuine blue guitarist used a Flying V before the rigid bluez rulez system was implemented and enforced so it's acceptable. I wonder if a Jackson King V would pass for blues?
it's like the first time Bob Dylan used and electric guitar at a folk festival. the folkies were not happy.
Seems some genuine blue guitarist used a Flying V before the rigid bluez rulez system was implemented and enforced so it's acceptable. I wonder if a Jackson King V would pass for blues?
rsm
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I still believe rigid rules, requirements, boundaries, etc., constrain music and stifle creativity and growth. If only the purist core of a genre is supported as real / authentic, then that core of the genre will slowly die and become a caricature of itself, the rest will live on and grow into something new; which if successful, will have its ow purists that will stifle it too. Already happened to jazz, metal, and blues...the remnant protecting the "purity" of the genre do the most to sow the seeds of its destruction. if not extinction.
IMO.
IMO.
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VonBonfire
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I think you miss the larger picture. It's not about a rigid set of rules but neither is it just showing up and doing whatever you want without regard to the traditions handed down by the people who did it before you. Could you show up to a blues jam with a king V and wah pedal? Sure. Most of the players will get a good laugh at your expense and you'll be treated like a clueless moron until you prove that you know your stuff. In that case you better absolutely smoke every other player at the jam. It's an unlikely scenario...It's no different than me showing up to you running an advanced computer coding class with a vintage laptop and then saying "rules constrain my creativity, man...."
If no one enforces any rules blues just becomes shit-rock and I have watched that in real time in the last 15 years. There are jams here where the dumbasses running it don't actually play any blues songs. So yeah, rules and standards have some value and importance in my view and on some level I am willing to flash my blues police badge and maintain some damn standards. The only people I see showing up to blues jams with anything more than a preferred OD are 99 times out of 100 the absolute worst players to show up...
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