RIP Dimebag, you were one of a kind.

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Steinmetzify":31g8ne4a said:
For today....get your groove on, guys. :rock:

I never end up listening to anything to but Pantera today.... :lol: :LOL:

YES. Shedding Skin has some of my absolute favorite leads of his... "some" because there are two solos. :rock:
 
RIP Dime. I always dug his attitude and creativity, amazing player.
 
Very first song I ever heard was Mouth For War on cassette in my '87 Ranger 4x4 with the crappy stock tape player, (I had it up as loud as it would go, and my cheap ass factory speakers were just rattling from all of Dime's bass in his eq, and Vinnie's cutting/punchy kick drum), and it's easily still in my top 5 all time Pantera favorites. I bought VDOP the day it came out after seeing the tab for CFH in GPFTPM, and thought the opening riff was really interesting from a visual standpoint. To me it looked like a mix of metal, blues, and country. I played it as close as what I thought it should sound like, and that's what I ended up thinking about it. I also thought WOW I can't play the main rhythm part cleanly where the intro drops down an octave to the first position, so this dude must be really good! The interview and pics of Dime were interesting as well, but I couldn't find a copy of CFH anywhere, so I watched for the release date of VDOP. Anywho, as soon as I heard MFW, I drove 40 miles to PDX while listening to the thing, and searched everywhere until I found CFH. I loved it as well, but it was almost like hearing the band from VDOP mixed with a slightly more 80's style metal band. I am a big Halford/Priest fan though, so it was all good in my book. When By Demons Be Driven came on, (pretty sure it's the last track on VDOP yes?), I was like OMFG! Don't hold nothing back dude! Most metal up to that point that I was exposed to eluded to the darker side of music, partying, PTSD/childhood/anger crap, but that song came right out and said it! Dimebag's playing really changed the way I looked at the instrument we all love, share, and talk about. Not to offend anyone, but I suddenly was like, Vai/EVH/Satriani who??? THEY ARE SO GHEY!!!!!!!!!!! LOL! Most dudes I know around here that are Gen-X peeps like me moved on to either country or classic rock/blues crap when the whole 90's/Seattle/Pantera thing happened, but not me. Dimebag's playing/Pantera's music/etc., made me start looking for music that was heavier than anything I had other heard, yet they still were groovy and catchy enough that the new stuff had to have that as well. I searched long and hard, and while I had some good finds like Prong/Cleansing, Machine Head/Burn My Eyes, White Zombie/La Sexorcista Devil Music Volume 1, Ministry, etc...... none of them were Pantera, and none of the guitarists could write and play like Dime.

In conclusion, even though hearing Neal Schon play Don't Stop Believing, (first solo I ever learned, and the reason I picked up the guitar in the first place), in the 8th grade, listening to The Eagles Live album over and over again in the 6th grade, and having my Dad introduce me to The Mama's and The Papa's Greatest Hits before that........ Dime's playing is what made me say, "screw sucky bar cover tunes!" I decided from that point on that I would only play music that I wanted to play, and started doing my best to write some heavy original music. In fact, since I thought I could never solo like someone like Dimebag, I totally quit doing scales, and soloing exercises. I instead would sit for hours in front of the TV with a guitar, not plugged in, and do rhythmic/riffy picking exercises, and I would go out of my way to try and not play in key. I instead started looking at the entire guitar chromatically, but made sure that I would hit the root note of the basic key of the song enough to keep that pedal note thing intact.

I may not be a great guitar player, or even a good one by technical standards. My song writing may be average and even sucky to some peeps, but because of the influence, I try to be a better, meaner, more passionate, and creative player even as I get older. I'm self taught, so I don't really know much about music theory etc., but in the end, I almost prefer it that way.
 
I remember listening to Sirius radio at night when it happened and hearing about it.
 
lester":f6egy0ds said:

Phil was a great front man for many good bands including Pantera, but he's pretty much burned out now sadly, and I don't like him trying to get attention while he's drunk by using Dime's tragedy and YT as a vessel. We all have made asses of ourselves, and got our friends all pissed off at us, but I know at least for myself, I don't film myself doing it, then plaster it on YT......... :thumbsdown: I assume he does it because he has a lot of guilt around all the trash talking he did about Dime during the 11th hour, and prolly doesn't know how else to deal with it, but I still see it as being on the selfish side.

Hope I didn't offend you lester, that vid you posted just rubs me funny. Thanks for posting in the thread in general though. :thumbsup: Maybe we can do a Phil appreciation thread on his b-day or something instead?
 
moronmountain":18a4y53m said:
I would go out of my way to try and not play in key. I instead started looking at the entire guitar chromatically, but made sure that I would hit the root note of the basic key of the song enough to keep that pedal note thing intact.

I may not be a great guitar player, or even a good one by technical standards. My song writing may be average and even sucky to some peeps, but because of the influence, I try to be a better, meaner, more passionate, and creative player even as I get older. I'm self taught, so I don't really know much about music theory etc., but in the end, I almost prefer it that way.

Same here dude, and for the same reasons....I never wanted to learn any cover tunes. The aggression, the brutality that the songs displayed was something I was really into, even on good days; it still makes me happy, even though I'm not 18 and angsty anymore. I've always strived for that level of weird mean riffs in my own stuff, and at the end of the day I don't play for anyone else, so I get to write whatever I want.

I've always dug metal, starting with Sabbath, and then thru what everyone else came along with, Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, etc...but Pantera was IT for me, as far as the level of brutality mixed with those crushing but grooving riffs. There's a lot of guys that can write riffs, but they're very rarely as MUSICAL as Dime's were....he was one of a kind in that regard.
 
Steinmetzify":1fibx0tp said:
moronmountain":1fibx0tp said:
I would go out of my way to try and not play in key. I instead started looking at the entire guitar chromatically, but made sure that I would hit the root note of the basic key of the song enough to keep that pedal note thing intact.

I may not be a great guitar player, or even a good one by technical standards. My song writing may be average and even sucky to some peeps, but because of the influence, I try to be a better, meaner, more passionate, and creative player even as I get older. I'm self taught, so I don't really know much about music theory etc., but in the end, I almost prefer it that way.

Pantera was IT for me, as far as the level of brutality mixed with those crushing but grooving riffs. There's a lot of guys that can write riffs, but they're very rarely as MUSICAL as Dime's were....he was one of a kind in that regard.

Exactly man! It's as if you took Beethoven, Tony Iommi, Ritchie Blackmore, Hendrix, SRV, Angus Young, Randy Rhoads, Jake E Lee, EVH, James Hetfield, Jimmy Page, Leslie West, Roy Clark, Robert Johnson and Dick Butkus, gave 'em a pile of go f' yourself mojo, some Bourbon, good humor, and a bag o'the skunk, through 'em in a cauldron while God blessed the mixture, and made them into THE rock dude! :rock: :gethim: :rock:
 
Always loved Dimes playing and even his tone :D
Saw them live in the summer of 96 at Sandstone Amphitheatre near KC with White Zombie and was in complete shock how great Dime was live.

Dude can sing too, Also check out Phil's guitar solo.

 
I saw that tour as well, but in PDX. Yeah his tone was to me THE 80's, heavy metal, scooped out, over saturated tone, that many of us liked back then, and it fit his style perfectly, even though it wouldn't be what I would want for myself. ;)
 
moronmountain":1g8epamv said:
lester":1g8epamv said:

Phil was a great front man for many good bands including Pantera, but he's pretty much burned out now sadly, and I don't like him trying to get attention while he's drunk by using Dime's tragedy and YT as a vessel. We all have made asses of ourselves, and got our friends all pissed off at us, but I know at least for myself, I don't film myself doing it, then plaster it on YT......... :thumbsdown: I assume he does it because he has a lot of guilt around all the trash talking he did about Dime during the 11th hour, and prolly doesn't know how else to deal with it, but I still see it as being on the selfish side.

Hope I didn't offend you lester, that vid you posted just rubs me funny. Thanks for posting in the thread in general though. :thumbsup: Maybe we can do a Phil appreciation thread on his b-day or something instead?

This was an interview. His perspective here is not only valid but a great tribute from someone who actually knew the dude.
I especially dug the part where Darrell wouldn't take "no" from Phil getting his ass in gear. Darrell was a badass. And it's great to hear it from someone who was there during Dime's best days.
 
G'night brother, and may you be rockin' the heck out with Jimmy and St. Peter!

And to everyone else who posted cool shit in this thread, thanks for keeping Dimebag "Diamond" Darrell Abbott at the top of the page for most of the day where he belongs! :rock:
 
lester":1j6fmxlb said:
moronmountain":1j6fmxlb said:
lester":1j6fmxlb said:

Phil was a great front man for many good bands including Pantera, but he's pretty much burned out now sadly, and I don't like him trying to get attention while he's drunk by using Dime's tragedy and YT as a vessel. We all have made asses of ourselves, and got our friends all pissed off at us, but I know at least for myself, I don't film myself doing it, then plaster it on YT......... :thumbsdown: I assume he does it because he has a lot of guilt around all the trash talking he did about Dime during the 11th hour, and prolly doesn't know how else to deal with it, but I still see it as being on the selfish side.

Hope I didn't offend you lester, that vid you posted just rubs me funny. Thanks for posting in the thread in general though. :thumbsup: Maybe we can do a Phil appreciation thread on his b-day or something instead?

This was an interview. His perspective here is not only valid but a great tribute from someone who actually knew the dude.
I especially dug the part where Darrell wouldn't take "no" from Phil getting his ass in gear. Darrell was a badass. And it's great to hear it from someone who was there during Dime's best days.

I agree, but I would rather hear him say something postitive about him that didn't bring any attention to himself, and while he wasn't on day 3 of whatever his choice was at the time.
 
moronmountain":1z7pwy8l said:
Steinmetzify":1z7pwy8l said:
moronmountain":1z7pwy8l said:
I would go out of my way to try and not play in key. I instead started looking at the entire guitar chromatically, but made sure that I would hit the root note of the basic key of the song enough to keep that pedal note thing intact.

I may not be a great guitar player, or even a good one by technical standards. My song writing may be average and even sucky to some peeps, but because of the influence, I try to be a better, meaner, more passionate, and creative player even as I get older. I'm self taught, so I don't really know much about music theory etc., but in the end, I almost prefer it that way.

Pantera was IT for me, as far as the level of brutality mixed with those crushing but grooving riffs. There's a lot of guys that can write riffs, but they're very rarely as MUSICAL as Dime's were....he was one of a kind in that regard.

Exactly man! It's as if you took Beethoven, Tony Iommi, Ritchie Blackmore, Hendrix, SRV, Angus Young, Randy Rhoads, Jake E Lee, EVH, James Hetfield, Jimmy Page, Leslie West, Roy Clark, Robert Johnson and Dick Butkus, gave 'em a pile of go f' yourself mojo, some Bourbon, good humor, and a bag o'the skunk, through 'em in a cauldron while God blessed the mixture, and made them into THE rock dude! :rock: :gethim: :rock:

This. All of it. The whole sub-thread.

\m/ :rock:
 
I remember getting a call from our Columbus contact for the band I was in at the time and he told me about the DamagePlan show the day before and he invited all of us down but a couple of the guys couldn't make it so I was just figuring we'd all catch them next time they were in OH or PA and then I remember getting a call from one of my buddys and watching Ohio News Now (ONN) TV station and I just couldn't believe it :cry:

Dime will always be remembered!!
 
Hey guys been swamped with work etc, ihabpvent mailed them yet will get them out ASAP.
 
moltenmetalburn":24k00i40 said:
Hey guys been swamped with work etc, ihabpvent mailed them yet will get them out ASAP.

:thumbsup:

No sweat man, it's already nice of you to do this.

Hurry the f@&? Up will ya'!!!!!

:lol: :LOL:

J/k

Chris
 
Loved the band and the material but let's face it, these dudes were burn outs. The way Anselmo describes Dime is exactly how someone describes an addict. With that type of consumption I wonder if his liver would have been toast by age 45. Can't take anything away from Dime and how great he was. Riffs for days and leads were off the charts. The worshiping of their hard ass lifestyle the way Anselmo describes it however, reminds me of being eternally 15 and wanting to get smashed on the weekend then talk about how badass we all were. As for his shpeel on Malmsteen, I'm not sure what he is talking about "soul". Soul comes in lots of forms, for Malmsteen, it came by way of the fury! That guy was on fire through Odyssey and even the Eclipse album. Anselmo just rubs me the wrong way. He's a drunk with zero vocal talent and he pissed his voice away long ago..
 
Kapo_Polenton":11n5y8ej said:
for Malmsteen, it came by way of the fury!
Not just any fury... The FOOKIN FYOORY...

Phil is definitely burnt out on quite a few things, drugs fucked him up the same way they did Stevie Adler... And the rest of the band was crazy about booze and Dime was letting himself go so I could see your point on him not lasting much longer unless he turned his life around... Even when I was heaviest into metal loving bands like Vader and Death, I couldn't really get into anything past Far Beyond Driven, and even then I don't like most of the album aside from a few tracks and it just getting meh-er and meh-er until he was doing that last band that was so nu-heavy it wasn't my thing. So as much as I'd love to have Dime around cause of what he did, I don't think I would have liked anything he put out unless he went on stage with Steel Panther like Vinnie has done a few times and rock some Van Halen or something... Would be cool to see Vinnie and Dime do something more 80's again since Cowboys came out, you know, as a little side project or something
 
He is the only "Shredder" who's playing I could truly understand........One Of A Kind.......Loved how he stepped aside from the typical gear trends of his day and used what worked for him......No Marshall stacks or Superstrats for Dime....HELL YEAH!!!!! R.I.P.....You are so missed.......
 
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