chunktone
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I'd go with a JMP, MKII or JCM800.
Marshall Freak
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Digital Jams":1klef7a4 said:Ok so the early 70s JMP looks like this.......
Later year JMP looks like this........
What is the difference between them? I take it these are both NMV as well right?
They changed in '76, which is also when they started making MV amps too. (2 hole vs 4hole in the pics) You could find any sort of arrangement at that time. Big Logo on the old style, Old tolex on the new style, new tolex on the old style, Rocker switchs on the old style. They just grabbed stuff out of the bins and made them. Mid '73 is when they went to PCB, Mid '69 is when they went from plexi to Metal panel.
Just about any of them will get you what you're after, but since you wanted "clean" with pedals too, I'd stick with the NMV Super Lead/Super Bass/etc.
Digital Jams
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EvilBatman":qxgdstpu said:My vote don't carry much weight but I agree with the others that have said JMP.
I HATED, let me repeat that, HATED Marshalls until I played a late 70's (can't remember the exact year) JMP. If God had an amp, that would have been it. The owner said it was just a stock model too.
Since then, I've warmed a bit to Marshall's, DSLs in particular, but still am a Boogie guy. If given the opportunity though, I'd pay $5000 or more for that JMP. I loved it that much. And I've never heard another one that has matched it.
Good luck Scott. I hope you find an amazing amp.
Thanks man, I have full confidence that the guys here will steer me in the right direction
degenaro
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Actually PCB started mid 73, MV started mid 75Digital Jams":h9u04z6k said:The wood is oiled and the strips are Wenge Bitches
So the JMP MKII is PCB and has an MV, how is the core voicing compared to an early 70s JMP?
As for the voicing, it really depends on what component where laying around the day it was soldered.
I have no issue with 70s PCB JMPs.
But from what I've come across I like 71/72 since I do like the in your faceness of metal panels, the fact that they're PTP is helping with resal value, and they're the closest to a Plexi you like will afford. Now if money can be stretched find a 68 small box 50 watter.
The reason I like Super Trems is that the trem actually sounds amazing, as does the clean on it. Plus its the Uli hang.
Digital Jams
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Marshall Freak":1qi4kc9z said:Digital Jams":1qi4kc9z said:Ok so the early 70s JMP looks like this.......
Later year JMP looks like this........
What is the difference between them? I take it these are both NMV as well right?
They changed in '76, which is also when they started making MV amps too. (2 hole vs 4hole in the pics) You could find any sort of arrangement at that time. Big Logo on the old style, Old tolex on the new style, new tolex on the old style, Rocker switchs on the old style. They just grabbed stuff out of the bins and made them. Mid '73 is when they went to PCB, Mid '69 is when they went from plexi to Metal panel.
Just about any of them will get you what you're after, but since you wanted "clean" with pedals too, I'd stick with the NMV Super Lead/Super Bass/etc.
Thanks man, I did hear that some amps had rockers, different tolex, etc..... So the MKII cleans are not as good as the early JMPs? I always dug Andy Summer's tone and he used early JMPs as well.
I may be asking for too much here.
Marshall Freak
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Digital Jams":1wfjkr87 said:Marshall Freak":1wfjkr87 said:Digital Jams":1wfjkr87 said:Ok so the early 70s JMP looks like this.......
Later year JMP looks like this........
What is the difference between them? I take it these are both NMV as well right?
They changed in '76, which is also when they started making MV amps too. (2 hole vs 4hole in the pics) You could find any sort of arrangement at that time. Big Logo on the old style, Old tolex on the new style, new tolex on the old style, Rocker switchs on the old style. They just grabbed stuff out of the bins and made them. Mid '73 is when they went to PCB, Mid '69 is when they went from plexi to Metal panel.
Just about any of them will get you what you're after, but since you wanted "clean" with pedals too, I'd stick with the NMV Super Lead/Super Bass/etc.
Thanks man, I did hear that some amps had rockers, different tolex, etc..... So the MKII cleans are not as good as the early JMPs? I always dug Andy Summer's tone and he used early JMPs as well.
I may be asking for too much here.
The Master Volume amps don't have as good of cleans as the Non Master Volume, they start breaking up to early. They've got decent cleans, but the Non Masters are better.
Digital Jams
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degenaro":3j5yheey said:Actually PCB started mid 73, MV started mid 75Digital Jams":3j5yheey said:The wood is oiled and the strips are Wenge Bitches
So the JMP MKII is PCB and has an MV, how is the core voicing compared to an early 70s JMP?
As for the voicing, it really depends on what component where laying around the day it was soldered.
I have no issue with 70s PCB JMPs.
But from what I've come across I like 71/72 since I do like the in your faceness of metal panels, the fact that they're PTP is helping with resal value, and they're the closest to a Plexi you like will afford. Now if money can be stretched find a 68 small box 50 watter.
The reason I like Super Trems is that the trem actually sounds amazing, as does the clean on it. Plus its the Uli hang.
That is it, I want that Marshall in your face WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. The JVM as cool as I find it lacks that open roar of the older marshalls.
Sounds like the mid 70s JMPs could be a crap shoot and I do not know enough at this time to test one and go yay or nay. I will have funds to swing a 71-72 but would not turn down a 1959HW fo the right price.
Vrad
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Get an early 70's JMP. Get a 100 watter. Put a PPIMV on it. If it's still too loud, use a hotplate in conjunction with the PPIMV. I would also STRONGLY recommend a 4x12 with lower wattage speakers. Either GB's or H30's.
degenaro
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FWIW, I'm a big opponent of MVs..any MV on a JMP. If it's too loud you're too old. Better yet load the fucker down and run i through the power amp.Vrad":28mqbr9v said:
Agree on the Greenies, not to fond of H30s, also love 65s with them.
degenaro
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Here's what I don't like...a 30 year old amp is fucking settled in, no break in time/sound change there. You get what you get.Digital Jams":16eccnyx said:degenaro":16eccnyx said:Actually PCB started mid 73, MV started mid 75Digital Jams":16eccnyx said:The wood is oiled and the strips are Wenge Bitches
So the JMP MKII is PCB and has an MV, how is the core voicing compared to an early 70s JMP?
As for the voicing, it really depends on what component where laying around the day it was soldered.
I have no issue with 70s PCB JMPs.
But from what I've come across I like 71/72 since I do like the in your faceness of metal panels, the fact that they're PTP is helping with resal value, and they're the closest to a Plexi you like will afford. Now if money can be stretched find a 68 small box 50 watter.
The reason I like Super Trems is that the trem actually sounds amazing, as does the clean on it. Plus its the Uli hang.
That is it, I want that Marshall in your face WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. The JVM as cool as I find it lacks that open roar of the older marshalls.
Sounds like the mid 70s JMPs could be a crap shoot and I do not know enough at this time to test one and go yay or nay. I will have funds to swing a 71-72 but would not turn down a 1959HW fo the right price.
Plus the re-issue will be worth half of what you paid in a couple o years whereas the JMP will be worth more.
Vrad
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degenaro":4tl67z97 said:
Well... I have no choice. I have to turn it down a bit. But if you don't have to, more power to you. It does sound better without a PPIMV. I have considered an Ultimate Attenuator. That would allow me to remove the PPIMV, but I gotta say, the way my '71 sounds right now... It's not worth fucking with.
Digital Jams
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Vrad":3ax27sbb said:
Thanks Vlad, yeah I have a Mojo 4x12 loaded with greens and another with H30s. I am going to start out loading it down with a hotplate and work from there since I have some volume liberties at home.
Which PPIMV will probably be the second thread after I buy one
tweed
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I put a great PPIMV in my vplexi at home. when its up to 10 its out of the circuit. Got it from Metro amp forums. Ask Ralph he knows which one it is.
Digital Jams
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degenaro":2sgh0jz0 said:Here's what I don't like...a 30 year old amp is fucking settled in, no break in time/sound change there. You get what you get.Digital Jams":2sgh0jz0 said:degenaro":2sgh0jz0 said:The wood is oiled and the strips are Wenge Bitches
So the JMP MKII is PCB and has an MV, how is the core voicing compared to an early 70s JMP?
Actually PCB started mid 73, MV started mid 75
As for the voicing, it really depends on what component where laying around the day it was soldered.
I have no issue with 70s PCB JMPs.
But from what I've come across I like 71/72 since I do like the in your faceness of metal panels, the fact that they're PTP is helping with resal value, and they're the closest to a Plexi you like will afford. Now if money can be stretched find a 68 small box 50 watter.
The reason I like Super Trems is that the trem actually sounds amazing, as does the clean on it. Plus its the Uli hang.
That is it, I want that Marshall in your face WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. The JVM as cool as I find it lacks that open roar of the older marshalls.
Sounds like the mid 70s JMPs could be a crap shoot and I do not know enough at this time to test one and go yay or nay. I will have funds to swing a 71-72 but would not turn down a 1959HW fo the right price.
Plus the re-issue will be worth half of what you paid in a couple o years whereas the JMP will be worth more.
Good point.............
JackBootedThug
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JackBootedThug":38pzemdr said:
Oh fuck Randy is about 30-40 minutes from me!!
Telephant
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Like others have said, 70's JMP is where its at. It doesnt have to be pre-pcb IMO. As long as it roars its awesome. Just make sure you get a Non Master Volume one. Add a PPIMv and you will get gained out bedroom volume tones that kill. Turn it all the way up and your back to stock and kicking motherfuckers in the teeth.
Modelers come and go but JMP is forever.
Modelers come and go but JMP is forever.
Rufus Leaking
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Geeez Scott, you just missed buying my '71 Super Trem with PPIV MV.... it's sitting here boxed up and waiting for the check to arrive;
Let me know if you want to see any more pics.
Also, I happen to think JMP's look much better in a plexi headshell like this Cameron Jose of mine;
Let me know if you want to see any more pics.
Also, I happen to think JMP's look much better in a plexi headshell like this Cameron Jose of mine;
Vrad
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Digital Jams":1oubskdf said:Vrad":1oubskdf said:
Thanks Vlad, yeah I have a Mojo 4x12 loaded with greens and another with H30s. I am going to start out loading it down with a hotplate and work from there since I have some volume liberties at home.
Which PPIMV will probably be the second thread after I buy one
No problem...
It took me about a year to figure that amp out! LOL!
Long story short, I had a Hotplate. Then I got a PPIMV installed. Then I put in the Rich Mod and sold my Hotplate. Then I bought another Hotplate because it was still too loud. The Hotplate on it's own was not enough and at -16db's, it didn't sound very good to me. A combo of Rich Mod and Hotplate works well for me. There are several other PPIMV options... I haven't tried them and you may like them better than the Rich Mod. Either way, there are alot of options. But that rig will end up being greater than the sum of its parts.
I haven't tried the H30's... I tried Private Jacks, CL80's and GB's. The GB's were 'it'.
But definitely start off with just the hotplate. If that works out for you then there's no reason to go any further with modding the amp.
Digital Jams
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Rufus Leaking":6z2h9yrk said:Geeez Scott, you just missed buying my '71 Super Trem with PPIV MV.... it's sitting here boxed up and waiting for the check to arrive;
Let me know if you want to see any more pics.
Also, I happen to think JMP's look much better in a plexi headshell like this Cameron Jose of mine;
DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!
That would have been awesome if I could have scored that from someone that I trust
