Someone please tell me what the deal is with Blackmachine?

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gtrwun":3e5x0j1s said:
rlord1974":3e5x0j1s said:
I use EMG single coils in some of my Strats. Strangely, all of these Strats sound a little different.....

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My EMGs must be broken, since they don't make these Strats sound identical.
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The word identical was never used to describe EMG's by me. No need to come back with a smart assed comment.
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gtrwun":3e5x0j1s said:
Im trying to wrap my head around why these "supposed" high quality guitars would use EMG's? I mean, once you stick an EMG pickup in a guitar, all you hear is the pickup. Nothing else.
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Perhaps I misinterpreted the above comment?

Regardless, it's not meant to be a smart assed comment - simply some comedic relief in yet another thread here that has digressed into a smouldering pile of turds.

I have never used EMG humbuckers, and maybe they're a different can of worms. All I am saying is the EMG single coils most certainly still allow some of the guitar's character to colour the overall tone.

Now I'll let the lynch mob get back to bashing people for spending their money on what they choose to spend their money on.
 
rlord1974":1bwr07oy said:
gtrwun":1bwr07oy said:
rlord1974":1bwr07oy said:
I use EMG single coils in some of my Strats. Strangely, all of these Strats sound a little different.....

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My EMGs must be broken, since they don't make these Strats sound identical.
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The word identical was never used to describe EMG's by me. No need to come back with a smart assed comment.
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gtrwun":1bwr07oy said:
Im trying to wrap my head around why these "supposed" high quality guitars would use EMG's? I mean, once you stick an EMG pickup in a guitar, all you hear is the pickup. Nothing else.
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Perhaps I misinterpreted the above comment?

Regardless, it's not meant to be a smart assed comment - simply some comedic relief in yet another thread here that has digressed into a smouldering pile of turds.

I have never used EMG humbuckers, and maybe they're a different can of worms. All I am saying is the EMG single coils most certainly still allow some of the guitar's character to colour the overall tone.

Now I'll let the lynch mob get back to bashing people for spending their money on what they choose to spend their money on.
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Well..... The money subject is just silly. The EMG's I have tried the 85's and the 81 's and I just can't dig em. Thinking about your strat comment though, didn't Gilmour use The single coils for a long time? Hard to argue with the tones he was getting. I'll bow out before I insert foot any deeper. :D
 
Stealthtastic":3c6i2wl8 said:
danyeo":3c6i2wl8 said:
Wow, you could buy 3 Anderson's and 2 Suhr's for the price of this fugly piece.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Extremely-Rare- ... 4ad04e2f2b
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Too bad they dont compare AT ALL to a BM. I've owned 2-3 Suhrs now including one built by john suhr himself and it was an extremely low serial #...still didnt compare to my Blackmachine.

If you're happy with Suhr or TA though, good for you.


I wonder how many of you tell ferrari owners they could buy a ton of hondas for that price? Hard to believe some of you are older than 14! :doh:
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I have not played a Blackmachine, but it is hard to believe that a Blackmachine is a Ferrari to a Suhrs Honda. By this comparison, a Suhr is a inferior piece of shit. That is certainly what a Honda is compared to a Ferrari, not the same league, hell, not even the same dimension. It is hard for me to believe that a Blackmachine could possibly be that superior to a Suhr. Suhr makes some VERY NICE HIGH QUALITY guitars. No offense, but the link to the one on ebay reminds me of an Ibanez. I guess I would have to play one to discover this magic for myself? Will it automatically take control of my hand and shred for me? Now that would be worth 20 grand. or, maybe if I could shoot lightning from it, or when I touched it, I got the strength of 3 silver back gorillas, now that would be worth my 20 grand! I just don't see how one guitar could be so superior to another, especially when a Suhr is the one being said is inferior.
 
Heritage Softail":39p9m23b said:
The hilarity of this is that one Blackmachine guitar is roughly half the cost of a tricked out Harley.

Play what you can afford and enjoy.
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Yup...and its taking me 10 years to pay for mine :D
 
People can buy whatever they want with their money. If you don't like it, you can suck it.
 
It is art. Art is subjective.

One mans j.pollock is another mans drop canvas.

And the huddled masses will always question the upper echelons spendings.

Buy what you want and can afford. Screw what others think.

P.s, I want a ken Lawrence explorer soooo bad. And every one of my emg equipped guitars sounds different.
 
Don't have a comment on the guitars but I've owned at least 6 guitars loaded with EMGs and they all had a unique sound. The character of the guitar definitely comes through.
 
Badronald":md7bhy59 said:
People can buy whatever they want with their money. If you don't like it, you can suck it.
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and this is true too :yes:
 
Tone Monster":186b6l6p said:
Don't have a comment on the guitars but I've owned at least 6 guitars loaded with EMGs and they all had a unique sound. The character of the guitar definitely comes through.
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I agree, maybe some dudes cant hear a difference but i can.
Its a old and tired subject and some people cant hear it, i have alot of guitars with emgs and they sound different, i disagree with the qoutes that emgs make every guitar sound the same.
Mahogany guitars still sound different than alder bodied guitars.
I have 2 les pauls with the same specs except the fretboards are different and they dont sound exactly the same.

Yes i will agree that emgs have a certain flavor to them, but i have had good guitars and bad sounding guitars with emgs and the bad ones still sucked. Emgs couldnt make my jackson master built kelly sound good. The guitar was a dead piece of shit and i tried about 10 different pickups and active or passive it was still a dud. If some peoples theory held true then the emgs would have made that guitar sound like my other emg equipped guitars and maybe i would have loved it.
Im sure theres people that will disregard my opinions on guitars because i love emgs, but to me they are the best sounding and feeling pickup for metal.
 
acalaf":38440ypm said:
acalaf wrote:
First off, I want to say that the sound cloud clip of loomis' guitarist playing battery through a Blackmachine sounds below average. The tone sounds digital, like it is a cheap ibanez going through a metal zone pedal. The playing is tight though. If this is meant to some how show this guitar in a good light, it did the exact opposite. Loomis' tone on his video is inferior to his regular tone as well, faces and all.

That said, hearing that the builder of these guitars doesn't build guitars full time convinced me that this is a serious and sad case of internet hype. If is frankly insulting to full time guitar builders that the best among them is an part timer. I concede that he may be "talented" at building guitars, but this is akin to stating that the best guitarist is a part timer also who is an accountant on the side. Please.

When BM owners are described as a tight knit group, moving behind the scenes with other BM owners, because putting one up for sale publicly makes you an asshole, I makes me think of a cult. The group needs to be tight knit in order to keep their delusion alive. These guitars are worth whatever they are worth because of simple economics: supply and demand. Please don't make them out to be more than that.

Btw, I wouldn't sell my 1992 les paul standard for $20,000 either. Too much sentimental value for me. Does that mean that it is worth that?


Edit: never mind. This post isn't intelligent enough to justify a response.
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Forgive me Guapo, I know that me, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education..
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Please, go tell Doug that he is "insulting" luthiery in general due to how he chooses to run his successful business.

I hear Warren Buffett is only working part time too. Perhaps you can go tell him what an insulting moron he is to investors everywhere while you are at it.

Perhaps, you might also inform him that the instruments he builds (that you have no experience with whatsoever) are dramatically over-priced, his fans are a cult, and he has no business sense.

I am sure he would love to hear it "Guapo".
 
When a thread starts looking and sounding like a TGP Dumble thread something is wrong. What could it be?
 
Every forum, all the time, whenever BMs are mentioned. They're definitely a polarizing piece of gear.
 
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