Speakers To Help The Mids On An SLO100

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Junk Yard Dog said:
I did this with my Friedmans and it really made an even more pleasant difference.
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THIS....I always try this first with any amp, esp Marshall types. Doesn't always work but more presence gets the 'bite' I need. Presence max, Treble at 0 and slowly raise it until you dig it.
 
The '91+ 3903/3904 Celestions are definitely not as bright and cutting as the Marshall-label G12V. The Mesa 4416 and 4335 is even warmer. So you could try some of those if you like the V30 thing generally but want something warmer.

The G12-65 works well too IMHO as long as the amp doesn't generate a ton of low end. SLO would be fine.

At least for the '90s T75, I don't hear anything really bright or harsh. They just sound boring to me compared to a V30 or G12M etc.
 
napalmdeath said:
Not to be another jerk either, but T75's do sound a bit scooped for sure, but top end fizziness is typically only present with those at lower volumes. Cranked, they're a different animal.. But, I'm sure you knew that..

Greenbacks FTW.
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I disagree. They're always fizzy in my experience, and I play loud often. Just not a fan of them.
 
Dyllheaven88 said:
Honestly I would try eminence legends , I have a older soldano FL 4x12 that’s what they used stock in their cabs for awhile , should help round out the mids and take some of the fizz off the top .
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Been curious about them as I've heard people like them specifically with their older all's and not much else. Haha
 
panhead said:
You just answered your own question.
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I don't think I did, though. I understand what a large part of the equation speakers and cabinets are, where as the person I was replying to was saying the amp was not meant for those items.
 
panhead said:
1 or2 guitar band?
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2 guitars. Other guitarist uses a rev E dual rectifier and a Mesa is cab with the stock v30's. Believe it or not, my SLO sounded like a fizz fest compared to his rig, but again, I really think the cab/speakers are the culprit.
 
Everybody hears different but those x12000 whatever soldano used sound bad to me.
 
You think that cab you were using was out of phase/ not wired correctly?
 
panhead said:
You think that cab you were using was out of phase/ not wired correctly?
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I don't believe so, it doesn't sound overly thin or quacky/harsh, it just seems particularly bright and fizzy. I did run my avenger through it to much better result, but even that sounded fizzy where it typically doesn't. The first amp I brought to practice was an el34 5150iii and of course that was the worst of the bunch in the fizz dept, and I typically don't mind the fizz from the 5150 stuff. The cab belongs to my other guitarist so I may end up just bringing one of my own once I figure out what works well with the SLO and avenger.
 
Read in your op its an angled cab, I dont jive with them.
 
Bad.Seed said:
I disagree. They're always fizzy in my experience, and I play loud often. Just not a fan of them.
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They're definitely love hate.

I'll stick with the trying not to be a jerk theme, but maybe it's the wrong amp. When I think of "Punk" or "Classic" rock in any form, Marshall would be my first choice. Definitely not an SLO. Or, even an Orange Rockeverb. SLO's are great amps, but they have their place, and it ain't punk. Did you ditch the Badlander?? That would be in the wheelhouse, I would think. I'm sure you could loosen it up a tad via the EQ.

Hell, I'd use a cheap UK DSL. That amp shines with T75's.
 
Meeotch said:
This.
I'm not the biggest v30 fan either, but yeah it sounds like the cab is the issue. Does your SLO have a loop? Throw an EQ in there?
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Sounds like V30's to me. I can't jive with them. I know the Mesa UK's are the best of the bunch, (IMO), but I always had a tear your head off experience with them. I love my well-broken in UK Greenbacks, and have yet to own an amp they didn't get along with. Round, smooth, warm, punchy, and rich. My Laney is a bright amp, and it tames it well. Squashes that high end.

What tubes are in the preamp???
 
napalmdeath said:
What tubes are in the preamp???
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This. All Sovtek tubes is a recipe for ice-pick fizz city. Never quite understood the NASA spec tolerances for all components save post-Gorbachev garbage glass.

Kind of like NS10's in the studio without a Bryston or proper amp. Harshness deluxe; tone that is terrible.
 
napalmdeath said:
Sounds like V30's to me. I can't jive with them. I know the Mesa UK's are the best of the bunch, (IMO), but I always had a tear your head off experience with them. I love my well-broken in UK Greenbacks, and have yet to own an amp they didn't get along with. Round, smooth, warm, punchy, and rich. My Laney is a bright amp, and it tames it well. Squashes that high end.

What tubes are in the preamp???
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I have a cab with '93 greenbacks and it sounds great but it's just always so dirty sounding. It's great for a crunch rock tone, but for high gain I really love V30s because the sound is a bit more clear I guess. My fav are the brighter/chime-y-er Marshall labels, though I kinda dig the slight cocked-wah sound I hear from the normal Celestion models. The Mesa ones are a bit too smooth for me but any of them are fine.

From my limited experience the 8-ohms do sound warmer/thicker than the 16, too. So that's another facto, but usually I can adjust the amp to sound the same either way.
 
cardinal said:
I have a cab with '93 greenbacks and it sounds great but it's just always so dirty sounding. It's great for a crunch rock tone, but for high gain I really love V30s because the sound is a bit more clear I guess. My fav are the brighter/chime-y-er Marshall labels, though I kinda dig the slight cocked-wah sound I hear from the normal Celestion models. The Mesa ones are a bit too smooth for me but any of them are fine.

From my limited experience the 8-ohms do sound warmer/thicker than the 16, too. So that's another facto, but usually I can adjust the amp to sound the same either way.
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My cab is loaded with 8's.

Another speaker I'd consider is a Classic Lead 80. Or the modified Mesa version, MC90. They stay pretty true to your tone and give you a more unmolested delivery. Doesn't color it much, and breathe nice.
 
napalmdeath said:
My cab is loaded with 8's.

Another speaker I'd consider is a Classic Lead 80. Or the modified Mesa version, MC90. They stay pretty true to your tone and give you a more unmolested delivery. Doesn't color it much, and breathe nice.
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Bob Gjika breaks those very Mesas by hand for his $1,500 2x12 cabs that people swear are the ultimate end-all splooge all over yourself fest sex toanz deluxe bliss.
 
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