Stephen Carpenters "Dope" Kiesel

[DanTravis62]

I live in Florida, and while we don't have huge camps, we do have homeless people all over the place. Red, blue, purple, it don't matter. America has had a rampant homeless problem since Reagan gutted the NIH's mental healthcare system, and farms started hiring illegal migrant workers to drop wages that were primarily paid to white transients back in the '70s and decades before.

Sure the NIH had issues going back decades. Horrible facilities in many cases, lots of abuse, and shady shit. But it got people off the street, and helped some deal with their issues in a way they could function.

Yep, it's one of a small number of functions that the state has a moral duty to perform imo

The de-institutionalization of the US and corporations exploiting migrant workers as basically slave labor is the perfect recipe for what we have now

 

[rsm]

I dunno the local greek orthodox monastery out in Kendalia is a converted mosque but I think there are some in Dallas and Austin. There is a Sikh temple up near Leander. There are a lot of Indians here but tbh I have had pleasant experiences with them. *shrugs

wait until they're the majority in a town or county; and holding political office.

 

[VonBonfire]

Yep, it's one of a small number of functions that the state has a moral duty to perform imo

Do you believe in criminalizing homelessness or sleeping rough or something like that? No real judgement on you either way, just interested to hear your thoughts. It got so bad for a while in Austin I thought about buying a wall tent and a few dozen sheep and setting up by the interstate and letting them graze just to see if I could get away with such a brazen act.

 

[VonBonfire]

wait until they're the majority in a town or county; and holding political office.

They have mostly shut down the muslims here but opened the door for Indians.

 

[DanTravis62]

Do you believe in criminalizing homelessness or sleeping rough or something like that? No real judgement on you either way, just interested to hear your thoughts. It got so bad for a while in Austin I thought about buying a wall tent and a few dozen sheep and setting up by the interstate and letting them graze just to see if I could get away with such a brazen act.

I mean I have no idea if you could get away with it in Texas, but you could definitely get away with it here

Homelessness is a symptom of other shit - 50% of those people are severely mentally ill and belong in mental institutions where they can't hurt anyone, including themselves. 40% are illegal immigrants who dont belong here at all, but in their country of origin, and 10% are people who are just down on their luck and need a social worker and social services

 

[rsm]

They have mostly shut down the muslims here but opened the door for Indians.

H1-B visa abuse is rampant; Indians are the largest recipients; there's an area in TX where one (Indian) attorney approved or processed like 40K H1-B approvals in a short time...in a few years it will be costing millions or more.

 

[rsm]

Do you believe in criminalizing homelessness or sleeping rough or something like that? No real judgement on you either way, just interested to hear your thoughts. It got so bad for a while in Austin I thought about buying a wall tent and a few dozen sheep and setting up by the interstate and letting them graze just to see if I could get away with such a brazen act.

they enforce no homelessness, no sleeping in cars, on the beach, parks, etc., here. works for me. many stories of people sleeping on strangers porches; I'd just call the cops if I found someone sleeping on my porch, or on my property.

while I have empathy for the homeless, it doesn't mean I have to let them do whatever they want wherever they want like they do blue states.

 

[VonBonfire]

I mean I have no idea if you could get away with it in Texas, but you could definitely get away with it here

Homelessness is a symptom of other shit - 50% of those people are severely mentally ill and belong in mental institutions where they can't hurt anyone, including themselves. 40% are illegal immigrants who dont belong here at all, but in their country of origin, and 10% are people who are just down on their luck and need a social worker and social services

IME most of the "American" homeless are either mentally ill or are just slacker-vagrant types who actually want to be homeless. I knew a few that needed the social help getting their documents and stuff straight. Tbh though I've somehow always met some great homeless people in every city I've spent any real time in. St. Pete, Nashville, and Austin.

 

[Hiwatts-n-Gibsons]

I mean I have no idea if you could get away with it in Texas, but you could definitely get away with it here

Homelessness is a symptom of other shit - 50% of those people are severely mentally ill and belong in mental institutions where they can't hurt anyone, including themselves. 40% are illegal immigrants who dont belong here at all, but in their country of origin, and 10% are people who are just down on their luck and need a social worker and social services

I don't agree on the skew of the percentages, but definitely am mostly with you on the demographic groups. I'll add one you don't mention though. Unfortunately the fastest growing homeless group here are seniors who can no longer find jobs, but whose retirements were often fuckered by the astronomical rise in the cost of living here, their investments getting hammered in the financial crisis, medical bills, etc...

 

[DanTravis62]

I don't agree on the skew of the percentages, but definitely am mostly with you on the demographic groups. I'll add one you don't mention though. Unfortunately the fastest growing homeless group here are seniors who can no longer find jobs, but whose retirements were often fuckered by the astronomical rise in the cost of living here, their investments getting hammered in the financial crisis, medical bills, etc...

That's just the demographic groups here But my ole lady is a crisis councilor for Catholic Charities here, so I'm not just guessing, I have access to inside information.

That's quite literally the skew of the percentages (Albeit in rougher numbers, it's more like 49.1% mentally ill, 41.8% illegals, etc)