Stephen Carpenters "Dope" Kiesel

[DanTravis62]

I live in Florida, and while we don't have huge camps, we do have homeless people all over the place. Red, blue, purple, it don't matter. America has had a rampant homeless problem since Reagan gutted the NIH's mental healthcare system, and farms started hiring illegal migrant workers to drop wages that were primarily paid to white transients back in the '70s and decades before.

Sure the NIH had issues going back decades. Horrible facilities in many cases, lots of abuse, and shady shit. But it got people off the street, and helped some deal with their issues in a way they could function.

Yep, it's one of a small number of functions that the state has a moral duty to perform imo

The de-institutionalization of the US and corporations exploiting migrant workers as basically slave labor is the perfect recipe for what we have now

 

[rsm]

I dunno the local greek orthodox monastery out in Kendalia is a converted mosque but I think there are some in Dallas and Austin. There is a Sikh temple up near Leander. There are a lot of Indians here but tbh I have had pleasant experiences with them. *shrugs

wait until they're the majority in a town or county; and holding political office.

 

[VonBonfire]

Yep, it's one of a small number of functions that the state has a moral duty to perform imo

Do you believe in criminalizing homelessness or sleeping rough or something like that? No real judgement on you either way, just interested to hear your thoughts. It got so bad for a while in Austin I thought about buying a wall tent and a few dozen sheep and setting up by the interstate and letting them graze just to see if I could get away with such a brazen act.

 

[VonBonfire]

wait until they're the majority in a town or county; and holding political office.

They have mostly shut down the muslims here but opened the door for Indians.

 

[DanTravis62]

Do you believe in criminalizing homelessness or sleeping rough or something like that? No real judgement on you either way, just interested to hear your thoughts. It got so bad for a while in Austin I thought about buying a wall tent and a few dozen sheep and setting up by the interstate and letting them graze just to see if I could get away with such a brazen act.

I mean I have no idea if you could get away with it in Texas, but you could definitely get away with it here

Homelessness is a symptom of other shit - 50% of those people are severely mentally ill and belong in mental institutions where they can't hurt anyone, including themselves. 40% are illegal immigrants who dont belong here at all, but in their country of origin, and 10% are people who are just down on their luck and need a social worker and social services

 

[rsm]

They have mostly shut down the muslims here but opened the door for Indians.

H1-B visa abuse is rampant; Indians are the largest recipients; there's an area in TX where one (Indian) attorney approved or processed like 40K H1-B approvals in a short time...in a few years it will be costing millions or more.

 

[rsm]

Do you believe in criminalizing homelessness or sleeping rough or something like that? No real judgement on you either way, just interested to hear your thoughts. It got so bad for a while in Austin I thought about buying a wall tent and a few dozen sheep and setting up by the interstate and letting them graze just to see if I could get away with such a brazen act.

they enforce no homelessness, no sleeping in cars, on the beach, parks, etc., here. works for me. many stories of people sleeping on strangers porches; I'd just call the cops if I found someone sleeping on my porch, or on my property.

while I have empathy for the homeless, it doesn't mean I have to let them do whatever they want wherever they want like they do blue states.

 

[VonBonfire]

I mean I have no idea if you could get away with it in Texas, but you could definitely get away with it here

Homelessness is a symptom of other shit - 50% of those people are severely mentally ill and belong in mental institutions where they can't hurt anyone, including themselves. 40% are illegal immigrants who dont belong here at all, but in their country of origin, and 10% are people who are just down on their luck and need a social worker and social services

IME most of the "American" homeless are either mentally ill or are just slacker-vagrant types who actually want to be homeless. I knew a few that needed the social help getting their documents and stuff straight. Tbh though I've somehow always met some great homeless people in every city I've spent any real time in. St. Pete, Nashville, and Austin.

 

[Hiwatts-n-Gibsons]

I mean I have no idea if you could get away with it in Texas, but you could definitely get away with it here

Homelessness is a symptom of other shit - 50% of those people are severely mentally ill and belong in mental institutions where they can't hurt anyone, including themselves. 40% are illegal immigrants who dont belong here at all, but in their country of origin, and 10% are people who are just down on their luck and need a social worker and social services

I don't agree on the skew of the percentages, but definitely am mostly with you on the demographic groups. I'll add one you don't mention though. Unfortunately the fastest growing homeless group here are seniors who can no longer find jobs, but whose retirements were often fuckered by the astronomical rise in the cost of living here, their investments getting hammered in the financial crisis, medical bills, etc...

 

[DanTravis62]

I don't agree on the skew of the percentages, but definitely am mostly with you on the demographic groups. I'll add one you don't mention though. Unfortunately the fastest growing homeless group here are seniors who can no longer find jobs, but whose retirements were often fuckered by the astronomical rise in the cost of living here, their investments getting hammered in the financial crisis, medical bills, etc...

That's just the demographic groups here But my ole lady is a crisis councilor for Catholic Charities here, so I'm not just guessing, I have access to inside information.

That's quite literally the skew of the percentages (Albeit in rougher numbers, it's more like 49.1% mentally ill, 41.8% illegals, etc)

 

[skoora]

Also rampant drug abuse among the homeless. Junkies always find a way to get or pay for drugs, even when they can barely buy food.

 

[DanTravis62]

Also rampant drug abuse among the homeless. Junkies always find a way to get or pay for drugs, even when they can barely buy food.

It's actually amazing. Like a superpower. I seriously don't know how they do it

 

[FearTheDeer]

Until you've experienced the "enriching diversity" of a deep blue state, let's just say the grass probably always looks greener in your neighbor's yard

I live in Chicago, which is as “deep blue” as it gets and has had legal recreational for years. The things you describe have not been my experience living here at all.

wait until they're the majority in a town or county; and holding political office.

Eh, probably wouldn’t be any worse than the weirdo Christians that we already have running half the country

 

[DanTravis62]

I live in Chicago, which is as “deep blue” as it gets and has had legal recreational for years. The things you describe have not been my experience living here at all.



Eh, probably wouldn’t be any worse than the weirdo Christians that we already have running half the country

Welcome to the forum random new guy.

 

[rsm]

I live in Chicago, which is as “deep blue” as it gets and has had legal recreational for years. The things you describe have not been my experience living here at all.



Eh, probably wouldn’t be any worse than the weirdo Christians that we already have running half the country

just another ordinary night in Chitcago. which one is you?

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I agree with @DanTravis62 here. One of the reasons I was excited about legalization of weed in most states and decriminalization here is because I was hoping it would stop the stoners from all acting like they were in some underground rebellion club.

Asking if you smoke, and then narrowing their eyes with that stupid fucking fucking grin and nod of approval if you do...It is all reminiscent of junior high.

 

[Al Chapo]

I agree with @DanTravis62 here. One of the reasons I was excited about legalization of weed in most states and decriminalization here is because I was hoping it would stop the stoners from all acting like they were in some underground rebellion club.

Asking if you smoke, and then narrowing their eyes with that stupid fucking fucking grin and nod of approval if you do...It is all reminiscent of junior high.

 

[Techdeth]

It's actually amazing. Like a superpower. I seriously don't know how they do it

I know how the girls do it . That’s easy to see
But the dudes on skid row ? How they all do it ? I live in a cornfield so I’ve never seen skid row or some insane shit like LA ( I saw Denver’s was bad but I’m sure it’s worse now ) . I don’t see how you them eat if you buy all drugs . Scary shit

 

[skoora]

It's actually amazing. Like a superpower. I seriously don't know how they do it

Unfortunately a lot of breaking into your place or car and selling/trading what they take. I would bet that the majority of burglaries are to pay for drugs.

 

[Fiesta Red]

I wonder if they would build me a Fentanyl guitar

If they did it would only last for about 30 minutes and you'd need another one

But oh what a glorious 30 minutes.