Still Snorkler love?

braintheory said:
Well that's a bummer, but they're almost 1000 less than that here in the US. I still don't think that's too bad though when you consider for example Lenz and a few others are also one channel with fewer features, just one mode and more expensive
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well never consider those. wouldn't even know of there existence if not for this forum.
Diezel for me. The Mesa stuff, while overprized, are not that much more.

But i liked the nielsen demo of the snorkler. but then i read it's not that different than a engl straight, which Bogner kind of copied???
i like the Alice in Chains facelift sound, but the rhythm tracks is not even the snorkler as far as we know...
 
valve said:
well never consider those. wouldn't even know of there existence if not for this forum.
Diezel for me. The Mesa stuff, while overprized, are not that much more.

But i liked the nielsen demo of the snorkler. but then i read it's not that different than a engl straight, which Bogner kind of copied???
i like the Alice in Chains facelift sound, but the rhythm tracks is not even the snorkler as far as we know...
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I had an Engl Straight that I sold last summer. It was good for an Engl, but nothing like the Snorkler in sound or feel. Totally different amp. For me I don't care about the Alice In Chains association or who used it, it's just a great amp regardless of anything else
 
braintheory said:
I had an Engl Straight that I sold last summer. It was good for an Engl, but nothing like the Snorkler in sound or feel. Totally different amp.
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thanks, so i can skip that experiment (engl straight).

braintheory said:
For me I don't care about the Alice In Chains association or who used it, it's just a great amp regardless of anything else
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then more power to you. i will try it, if i get a change, but the stores that have them are far away...
 
valve said:
well never consider those. wouldn't even know of there existence if not for this forum.
Diezel for me. The Mesa stuff, while overprized, are not that much more.

But i liked the nielsen demo of the snorkler. but then i read it's not that different than a engl straight, which Bogner kind of copied???
i like the Alice in Chains facelift sound, but the rhythm tracks is not even the snorkler as far as we know...
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It's a great modded 50w Marshall. You can dial it darker to hit the AIC tone if you like. And yes, the modded 50w 65 Bassman, with an also modded Butler(Chandler) Tube Driver in front was used for the bulk of the heavy rhythms on that album, according to the engineer who owns the original Snorkler.

If you like modded Marshalls, this one hits all the checkpoints for me, in a 50w amp. Only thing he could do better is offer it as a 100w.
 
Racerxrated said:
It's a great modded 50w Marshall. You can dial it darker to hit the AIC tone if you like. And yes, the modded 50w 65 Bassman, with an also modded Butler(Chandler) Tube Driver in front was used for the bulk of the heavy rhythms on that album, according to the engineer who owns the original Snorkler.

If you like modded Marshalls, this one hits all the checkpoints for me, in a 50w amp. Only thing he could do better is offer it as a 100w.
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no i am not into the modded marshall sound, this might be the first i actually liked from the clips.

i have the facelift sound down, close enough for my liking, at least for now and i don't even use a similar guitar + PU.
I don't think it's a dark sound, so the snorkler is on the bright side?
 
braintheory said:
Well that's a bummer, but they're almost 1000 less than that here in the US. I still don't think that's too bad though when you consider for example Lenz and a few others are also one channel with fewer features, just one mode and more expensive
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I don't get "it needs 4 different channels I will never use" as a hill to die on for amp features, but hey, everyone has their picadillos

I don't think the snorkler is out of control price-wise at all compared to most of the market - i'd certainly rather spend that much on one channel that sounded kickass than 4 meh ones.

If different channels is that much of a deal, just buy a modeler?
 
DanTravis62 said:
I don't get "it needs 4 different channels I will never use" as a hill to die on for amp features, but hey, everyone has their picadillos

I don't think the snorkler is out of control price-wise at all compared to most of the market - i'd certainly rather spend that much on one channel that sounded kickass than 4 meh ones.

If different channels is that much of a deal, just buy a modeler?
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3 is good!
willing to compromise on clean.
It's 2025
 
valve said:
debatable. i would call the herbert a 3,5 ch head, so we can agree on 1,5 ch?
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I’d consider it a legit 2 ch foot switchable amp. It’s just that the controls are shared. The blue and red channels on the amp imo are a bit more contrasting from each other than ch 2 & 3 of the Herbert fwiw. I think it’s just a really good amp with a voicing that either you’ll like or not
 
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valve said:
3 is good!
willing to compromise on clean.
It's 2025
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which is exactly why if you need more versatility you can literally just use a kemper or axefx :dunno:

That hasn't been the direction tube amps have been moving - even Mesa's new stuff is the reissue 2c+ and simple early recto, because most guitar players would rather have 1-2 great tones than compromise on 59 middling ones

I'm not saying you're "wrong" or something, everyone likes what they like, but that definitely isn't the direction things are really moving in the business as a whole
 
DanTravis62 said:
I don't get "it needs 4 different channels I will never use" as a hill to die on for amp features, but hey, everyone has their picadillos

I don't think the snorkler is out of control price-wise at all compared to most of the market - i'd certainly rather spend that much on one channel that sounded kickass than 4 meh ones.

If different channels is that much of a deal, just buy a modeler?
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Yeah my approach has always been the exact opposite of one amp with lots of features and channels. The amps I keep are ones that I feel do at least one thing, no matter how particular, 10/10 unrivaled at what it does even if it means I don’t end up playing it often. I don’t keep amps that do tons of things 8-9/10 well. If I were in a band though I probably would for practicality
 
DanTravis62 said:
which is exactly why if you need more versatility you can literally just use a kemper or axefx :dunno:

That hasn't been the direction tube amps have been moving - even Mesa's new stuff is the reissue 2c+ and simple early recto, because most guitar players would rather have 1-2 great tones than compromise on 59 middling ones

I'm not saying you're "wrong" or something, everyone likes what they like, but that definitely isn't the direction things are really moving in the business as a whole
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And I’m happy about that. I think (hopefully) amps may actually be heading in a better direction now. I love also the new recto reissue. Smokes the MW imo, but of course if you’re not a recto fan this won’t change that lol

We have modelers for versatility and convenience, and amps for tone imo. Meshuggah I believe was using an axefx last week when I saw them. I wasn’t thinking omg how do I get that sound, but they made it work extremely well for them functionally with how it sat in the mix and hearing things very clearly. Did what they wanted it to do
 
braintheory said:
I’d consider it a legit 2 ch foot switchable amp. It’s just that the controls are shared. The blue and red channels on the amp imo are a bit more contrasting from each other than ch 2 & 3 of the Herbert fwiw. I think it’s just a really good amp with a voicing thst either you’ll like or not
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well it says mode and not channel at that switch! it's comparable to the herberts -/+ ch2.

i see your point with 1 great channel instead of 2-4 mediocre ones, but i don't agree this has to be the case.
 
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valve said:
well it says mode and not channel at that switch! it's comparable to the herberts -/+ ch2.

i see your point with 1 great channel instead of 2-4 mediocre ones, but i don't agree this has to be the case.
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Soundwise though there’s more contrast than the +/- mode of Herbert’s. It’s more like the sound difference of ch2 vs 3 of those amps, but a little more imo. Either way, between the 2 modes you get plenty of range, but no real clean

I’m open minded, but so far, the only amps I’ve played with 3 or more channels that truly to me were special, top tier amps were just the Larry’s, Blueface VH4 and Steavens are also really good. I agree that it technically doesn’t have to be the case, but just usually is IME
 
Still love it for heavy and, well, heavier. Great feel and very clear without ever sounding harsh.

Unexpected bonus: Channel 1 boosted with a Mr. Mansfield pedal or similar might be just as good as Channel 2.
 
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