DanTravis62
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I know his pain with millennial soundguys.
100-105db isn't even fucking loud LOL
I know his pain with millennial soundguys.
100-105db isn't even fucking loud LOL
Omnipotent1
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I’m only a couple minutes in.. but had to pause it to say 100 db is the loudness of a fuckin lawn mower… These sound guys must mow their yard with ear protection.. I remember my first real concert was when I was 8 years old my pops dropped my brother & I off at ozzfest we got tickets to the pit. I’ll never forget being at the very front & just the volume coming off the stage rattling my guts more than a nympho in a western brothel… I was hooked on wanting to learn music from that point forward… I say this as a millennial…
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thegame
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I troll at 120 db and rarely receive complaints
* velcro-fly *
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Yep....sound guys and current rooms are F'd.....
Flip side - we played the Ilani Casino Rock and Brews room a couple months ago ( Gene Simmons version of the Hard Rock Cafe) and they actually told me to turn it up. I was already at way too loud volume for any other place we regularly play around here, but said hammer it. Stage volume was loud but the monitoring was so good it was just awesome.
I saw the Koch Trio here too at a small room and he was loud but not kill the room loud, it was fucking killer.
Flip side - we played the Ilani Casino Rock and Brews room a couple months ago ( Gene Simmons version of the Hard Rock Cafe) and they actually told me to turn it up. I was already at way too loud volume for any other place we regularly play around here, but said hammer it. Stage volume was loud but the monitoring was so good it was just awesome.
I saw the Koch Trio here too at a small room and he was loud but not kill the room loud, it was fucking killer.
alund
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I saw LA guns in Memphis at Lafayette’s and they were running 115. It was perfect. L.A.F. It’s like the price of admission. I don’t listen to the sound guy anymore. We just set stage volume and it works.
DanTravis62
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115 is the average to low side for the normal concerts at my local venues. Maybe a bit louder for the small clubs.
100-105 is positively quaint for a rock and roll show, which makes the Cockmaster's story even more ridiculous.
I can remember every time i've been told to turn up
Because it's 4 times in hundreds and hundreds of gigs.But most of the time I just consider it a win when i'm not told to turn down
The crazy part though is these people should know better. Rock concerts are SUPPOSED to be loud. It's visceral, part of the experience.
Well and that's at a consistent volume for the lawn mower, bands have dynamics and aren't constant SPL wise like that.
WizardAmpIphoneClip
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That's nothing
Motorhead and of course the mighty Manowar easily hit 130+ DB live for decades
Motorhead and of course the mighty Manowar easily hit 130+ DB live for decades
DanTravis62
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Yes, that's in the territory where I would say most people would say "too loud" - although i think wear some earplugs and rock out, fine for me
I don't think most people understand, DB is a logarithmic not a linear scale
When @WizardAmpIphoneClip says motorhead and manowar are 130db, that means they are literally
EIGHT TIMES LOUDER than the Cockmaster's band that was supposedly too loud
japetus
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This guy is badass
Omnipotent1
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Omnipotent1
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which makes it even worse... Maybe the main act is slipping them some cash to make sure the openers don’t cross a certain threshold… probably the venue.. I’m sure eventually ISO cabs will even become relics & it will be all modelers & monitors.
* velcro-fly *
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When you walk into this place it says 'Rock N Brews Concert Club'. Literal million dollar sound system in there. Big stage and the first time I've ever heard myself on the opposite side of it as I did standing directly in front of my amp, but the weird thing was the stage volume didn't kill us but it was loud as fuck. We're back there in June, should be fun.I can remember every time i've been told to turn up
But most of the time I just consider it a win when i'm not told to turn down
The crazy part though is these people should know better. Rock concerts are SUPPOSED to be loud. It's visceral, part of the experience.
Techdeth
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Dude it’s tough being a troll . RT is the only place you can troll and not get kicked out . I’m thrown out of discords pretty quit from trolling lol
BeZo
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How you think I feel rolling in with two full stacks.
7704A
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All I can say is that if I showed up to a gig with two full floor-to-ceiling stacks of phasers I'd feel positively decadent.
DanTravis62
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Like a man who knows what he's about.
RaceU4her
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i remember going to a club years ago in NYC and there was a decibel meter, my dude told me they werent supposed to go over 100db or face fines
DanTravis62
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That is the gayest shit i've ever heard, but being that it's NYC i can't really be surprised
100db is incredibly tame for any kind of rock and roll, even a blues gig
Omnipotent1
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VonBonfire
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It's not the gayest shit you've ever heard. I played this POS club in Dunedin FL once called Bausers. Look it up it's still there. They had a red light attached ot a dB meter that lit up when you'd exceeded club limits. The drummer coughed and the red light started to flicker, no exaggeration. Needless to say I never booked that place again.
Another time I was asked to turn down at this piece of crap called 3 birds cafe in St. Pete. I could hear the tvs at the bar over the band 30-40 feet from the courtyard where we were playing. Never again man. I'll walk...
Skippers smokehouse in Tampa, which hosted some pretty well known acts like Jorma K and Jack Casady of Jefferson Airplane fame, smokin' joe kubek and bnois king, lucky peterson and other artists of that nature eventually had volume complaints from one elderly neighbor and the stage volume there was reduced to what amounted to a cranked 10 or 15 watt tube amp. They had a dB meter on stage and I think 105 was supposed to be the max, which was ridiculous for a club of that size.
Come to think of it BB King's Orlando was absolutely pathetic. They had one of those epi valve jr you were supposed to use for the afternoon show. How many watts are those? LOL. That was the most disappointing gig I ever did.
