The Official You do not have gas for an AXEFX thread.

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My main gripe for the thing is its cost. At it's price point, I compare it to EVERYTHING... once you're at $1,500+... you can basically look at almost anything you want. That's really the only reason I don't seriously look at it. Too many awesome amp heads/preamps/effects on the market. Am I wrong in thinking this? :confused: By the way, I'm not necessarily looking at direct competition but, stuff like this: a used TriAxis AND a used G-System combined (which I own) are the same money as a new (or used at this point) Ultra. Is the standard Axe-FX 3 times better than that new $499 Digitech GSP-1101? It's a law of diminishing returns thing. I guess I'm just used to have 2 or 3 really good individual units and combining them then paying the price tag for one unit and having a really good all in 1. :confused:
 
I'd like to noodle with one...but now that I have my intellifex dialed in to taste through my QR fx loop, I'm happy as a pig dipped in shit as far as tone is concerned...

I get guitar gas these days....maybe a gadget here and there, but no amp/modellor gas..
 
AxeFX?...there's not a tool yet invented that can measure the depth of my indifference.
 
Id like to hear one some time but Im not dropping that much coin just to try one for 15 days. I've gotten caught up in the hype of some amps and I feel this really could the same thing and it would be waste of my time. That said if I had the chance to try one and not have to pay to hear it then yeah Id definately give it a listen.
 
not interested..I would bet anything it is awesome... I have a vetta dialed in to where I like it and thats an easy all in one rig for me... The audience seems to think it sounds okay and I have tube amps when I want to be in tone bliss.... The axe would mean buy unit itself,buy a rack to mount it in , buy some kind of power source, rack light...etc. Too much cost for something i don't really need..

and the way this type of technology is ( digital modeling) some time soon you'll probably be able to buy the same type of great souding unit for about a quarter of the price...
 
I have to chime in just for the thread title. :lol: :LOL:

I have had no amp gas since I got my Cornford. I am sure based on what I have read the Ax FX can get the tones I get from the Cornford and a whole lot more. However I am very happy with my tone and do not want to go through the hassle of moving gear, especially at the current time in our economy for something that quite possibly could be a letdown. I know some great players on this forum are loving it but by default that does not mean that I will.

I currently have great tone and an incredible setup that is very flexible. So I could start over trying to learn something new, which in the end if it worked out well I would end up right back where I am today getting the same tone I have now that makes me happy, so what did I accomplish? Well a lot of time spent learning something new instead of writing music, or practicing. Sounds like I would be better off sticking with my current setup and moving forward with my tone :rock:

No Ax Gas Here. :D :D
 
I'm not gassing for one. But I'm in a position to record my tube amps as loud as need be whenever I want to - if I didn't have that situation, I'd probably be interested.
 
Really skeptical. Every digital effect or modeller I've tried, with the "on the edge" tones, they always feel like you're playing with latex gloves on. There is a feeling disconnect for me, with the volume knob and how hard you play. My favorite tone is straight in. I do use modulation effects for slow clean picking, and a boost for leads... but most of the time I'm true-bypassed in, either a hot clean sound or a medium crunch.
I'm sure it's fine for different flavors of gained-out tones or pristine clean with tons of chorus-y stuff. But I only spend about 2% of my time there and I'm sure I would be disappointed with everything in between.
 
Robotechnology":2diccjhm said:
My main gripe for the thing is its cost. At it's price point, I compare it to EVERYTHING... once you're at $1,500+... you can basically look at almost anything you want. That's really the only reason I don't seriously look at it. Too many awesome amp heads/preamps/effects on the market. Am I wrong in thinking this? :confused: By the way, I'm not necessarily looking at direct competition but, stuff like this: a used TriAxis AND a used G-System combined (which I own) are the same money as a new (or used at this point) Ultra. Is the standard Axe-FX 3 times better than that new $499 Digitech GSP-1101? It's a law of diminishing returns thing. I guess I'm just used to have 2 or 3 really good individual units and combining them then paying the price tag for one unit and having a really good all in 1. :confused:
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I bet you would like one, Ivan. I'm sure I would too but I tend to subscribe to your thoughts above for now. I owned a Vetta and Vetta II for 3 years and liked those as well. I'm not really concerned with replicating "real" amp tones. If the unit sounds good then that's all that matters. The only thing that makes me weary is the problem I ran in to with the Vetta. There are so many options and features that I spent too much time tweaking and not enough playing. I kept telling myself I like the tone I'm hearing but what if I turn these knobs just a bit more or try this amp sim instead. I would get so far away from my original tone I would have to scrap it and start over again. The flexibility was a benefit and a detriment all in one.

That being said, the Axe-FX would be my unit of choice without question. I played a POD Pro through a VHT power amp once and thought it blew away the Vetta. I'm sure the Axe-FX would be light years beyond. Either way, I'm glad you ultimately steered me towards the Mark IV. It has been a dream amp for me going on 16 months.

All Axe-FX owners are more than welcome to bring your gear to Utah so I can try one out!!
 
The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.
 
Looking around my gear room, here are the tube amps I see at first glance...

Bogner XTC 101B
Mesa Dual recto rackmount
SLO Clone (in progress)
Trainwreck Express Clone (in progress)
Trainwreck Liverpool Clone
Marshall 18 watt clone I built
Modded 70s Fender Champ (I put an slo preamp circuit in it)
Randall MTS RM100 head palomino
Randall MTS RM100 head black
Randall MTS RM20 head palomino
Randall MTS RM20 combo
Randall MTS RM50 head
Randall RT 2/50 power amp with RM4 preamp
over a dozen MTS modules for the randalls above
Fab Fox head (with street sign chassis, a harmony central piece of history!)
Peavey VTM 60 (modded by me)

And the Axe FX sounds great compared to any of the amps above. (uhm, especially the Fab.) But then again, I own this gear *and* I own an Axe FX... and I'm not talking out my ass about how it sucks before I play one in person. Plus I've even compared them with an A/B box to my 'real' tube amps.

I just don't see why some of you guys get so threatened - if you don't like something, that's great, more power to you. We all have our own tastes and such. But to say something is shit without even trying it out seems somewhat ignorant to me. The Axe FX isn't be all end all, but then again, I can't think of any tube amp that EVERYONE loved either. All I know is, I can choose any of the gear above for gigs, (I also have a ton of pedal effects, TC rack fx, 8 or so different guitar cabs) and the Axe is going with me every time I play out.

Pete
 
UltraGary":34mlmq34 said:
The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.
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And some of us don't sell their amps and all the gear lives quite happily together...
In my case...
5 THD, 3 Marshall, 2 VHT, Mesa, Soldano, Rivera, Line6, Axe-Fx.
 
degenaro":3e6bfw28 said:
UltraGary":3e6bfw28 said:
The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.
Click to expand...
And some of us don't sell their amps and all the gear lives quite happily together...
In my case...
5 THD, 3 Marshall, 2 VHT, Mesa, Soldano, Rivera, Line6, Axe-Fx.
Click to expand...

You're obviously drinking the Scott Peterson-flavored Koolaid, Ed. :)
 
stratotone":3bl292l6 said:
degenaro":3bl292l6 said:
UltraGary":3bl292l6 said:
The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.
Click to expand...
And some of us don't sell their amps and all the gear lives quite happily together...
In my case...
5 THD, 3 Marshall, 2 VHT, Mesa, Soldano, Rivera, Line6, Axe-Fx.
Click to expand...

You're obviously drinking the Scott Peterson-flavored Koolaid, Ed. :)
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Sorta, if I had the industrial strength version I woulda sold the amps though. :)
 
It does look like an awesome tool. I haven't loved all of the stuff that I've heard. I wouldn't mind having it as a tool but I can't really justify buying another piece of gear. I have a Lexicon G2 that I don't really use much as it is. But the AxeFx does sound much better, in terms of the amp modeling.
 
stratotone":4b2f2z30 said:
SLO Clone (in progress)
Trainwreck Express Clone (in progress)
Trainwreck Liverpool Clone
Marshall 18 watt clone I built
Modded 70s Fender Champ (I put an slo preamp circuit in it)
Peavey VTM 60 (modded by me)
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Wow Pete, thats a lot of stuff you've built and which needs to be finished. Its addictive, isn't it? :D

A really cool part of the AF is that it has a "looper" built in and with a simple line-out put into amps it can be an awesome central of a huge rig, which allows dry/wet or full wet or whatever.
 
I just don't see why some of you guys get so threatened - if you don't like something, that's great, more power to you. We all have our own tastes and such. But to say something is shit without even trying it out seems somewhat ignorant to me. The Axe FX isn't be all end all, but then again, I can't think of any tube amp that EVERYONE loved either. All I know is, I can choose any of the gear above for gigs, (I also have a ton of pedal effects, TC rack fx, 8 or so different guitar cabs) and the Axe is going with me every time I play out.

Pete[/quote]

No one feels threatened. I think this topic is going because Axe-FX is one of those pieces of gear that make sooo many guitarists blab on these forums like Hanah Montana fans.
 
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