The Official You do not have gas for an AXEFX thread.

[Juggernaut]

It’s just a piece of gear, people will like it, people won’t..

Now why would you go and say something like that?

making sense in a thread like this,

how dare you!

 

[blackba]

I have no Axe-FX gas.....


FWIW, everyone talk about the price being too high, hell I spent as much on a Triaxis, as I did on my Axe, so I didn't see the problem.

For me the price is high, I wouldn't say its too high, people are buying them right? For me $2k for an ultra is more than I have spent on an amp ever. Plus buying one for me means selling a good deal of gear. Everyone has their limit on what they can spend and are willing to spend.

I would like to get one, but a mesa mark V is at the top of my GAS list.

 

[SkyhighRocks]

For me the price is high, I wouldn't say its too high, people are buying them right? For me $2k for an ultra is more than I have spent on an amp ever. Plus buying one for me means selling a good deal of gear. Everyone has their limit on what they can spend and are willing to spend.

I would like to get one, but a mesa mark V is at the top of my GAS list.

except it's not an amp. It's a preamp, total effects machine, live rig, studio rig...all of the above. I'd rather own one thing that does all that great than own a mess of stuff that does those things great. My house ain't big enough. But I understand your point.

 

[Audioholic]

Revalver is great! what is nice about the ol Axe FX is that they were able to make a good feeling box when you plug in. I have used software for a while, and I always felt like I was fighting with the plug in, mainly due to a tad of latency probally, but it was just a little harder to gel with playing through. The axe does have a nice feel when plucking through, specially going through a power amp.

Its a great preamp, and or a great fx box, it wears a few hats, which is cool. I could be perfectly happy just using that through a cab no doubt. But you know how it is, somedays some amps just feel amazing, and there is room for all of this great gear!!!

Its nice to have such diversity in tone and preference, just as long as we don't bash stuff we havn't tried first hand

 

[ejecta]

Looking around my gear room, here are the tube amps I see at first glance...

Bogner XTC 101B
Mesa Dual recto rackmount
SLO Clone (in progress)
Trainwreck Express Clone (in progress)
Trainwreck Liverpool Clone
Marshall 18 watt clone I built
Modded 70s Fender Champ (I put an slo preamp circuit in it)
Randall MTS RM100 head palomino
Randall MTS RM100 head black
Randall MTS RM20 head palomino
Randall MTS RM20 combo
Randall MTS RM50 head
Randall RT 2/50 power amp with RM4 preamp
over a dozen MTS modules for the randalls above
Fab Fox head (with street sign chassis, a harmony central piece of history!)
Peavey VTM 60 (modded by me)

And the Axe FX sounds great compared to any of the amps above. (uhm, especially the Fab.) But then again, I own this gear *and* I own an Axe FX... and I'm not talking out my ass about how it sucks before I play one in person. Plus I've even compared them with an A/B box to my 'real' tube amps.

I just don't see why some of you guys get so threatened - if you don't like something, that's great, more power to you. We all have our own tastes and such. But to say something is shit without even trying it out seems somewhat ignorant to me. The Axe FX isn't be all end all, but then again, I can't think of any tube amp that EVERYONE loved either. All I know is, I can choose any of the gear above for gigs, (I also have a ton of pedal effects, TC rack fx, 8 or so different guitar cabs) and the Axe is going with me every time I play out.

Pete

Did someone say it was "shit" having not played it? I've read some who havent played one say they have doubts and issues with the price etc. but Ive havent read anyone saying it was a piece of "shit" but then again I could have missed it.

The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.

Missed that. I stand corrected. And that is very lame.

 

[UltraGary]

Pete[/quote]

Did someone say it was "shit" having not played it? I've read some who havent played one say they have doubts and issues with the price etc. but Ive havent read anyone saying it was a piece of "shit" but then again I could have missed it.[/quote]

The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.

[/quote]

Missed that. I stand corrected. And that is very lame.[/quote]


Sheesh...touchy touchy. I didn't mean that the AxeFX is "sh*t", I actually think it would be fun as hell to have. I also never said I'd never tried one.

I meant "sh*t" as in> 'Overly hyped gear that everyone fawns over and then soon becomes disenchanted with once they actually compare the true sound with the amp they thought they were replacing' (think Tom Scholz Rockman, Line6 Pod, etc.. All great pieces of gear in their own right....but at first had the earlybird tech heads claiming they'd replace those outdated heavy amps)



I hope this unruffles any damaged feathers.

 

[stratotone]

Pete

Did someone say it was "shit" having not played it? I've read some who havent played one say they have doubts and issues with the price etc. but Ive havent read anyone saying it was a piece of "shit" but then again I could have missed it.[/quote]

The stuff I read about Axe-FX reminds me of all the guitar synthesizer stuff I was reading in the 80s...and then the Line6 modelling stuff in the 90s.
I appreciate folks embracing these types of new technologies....but not only will our amp rigs remain relatively unchanged....but those who bought into this stuff too deeply will be re-buying amps like the ones they sold to buy this sh*t.

[/quote]

Missed that. I stand corrected. And that is very lame.[/quote]


Sheesh...touchy touchy. I didn't mean that the AxeFX is "sh*t", I actually think it would be fun as hell to have. I also never said I'd never tried one.

I meant "sh*t" as in> 'Overly hyped gear that everyone fawns over and then soon becomes disenchanted with once they actually compare the true sound with the amp they thought they were replacing' (think Tom Scholz Rockman, Line6 Pod, etc.. All great pieces of gear in their own right....but at first had the earlybird tech heads claiming they'd replace those outdated heavy amps)



I hope this unruffles any damaged feathers.[/quote]

No feathers were damaged here, just seemed that what you wrote in the first place was really stupid, that's all.

I'm curious Gary, what's your toneful rig consist of?

Pete

 

[trey85stang]

I just don't see why some of you guys get so threatened - if you don't like something, that's great, more power to you. We all have our own tastes and such. But to say something is shit without even trying it out seems somewhat ignorant to me. The Axe FX isn't be all end all, but then again, I can't think of any tube amp that EVERYONE loved either. All I know is, I can choose any of the gear above for gigs, (I also have a ton of pedal effects, TC rack fx, 8 or so different guitar cabs) and the Axe is going with me every time I play out.

Pete

Im not threatened by the axefx.. I just posted this to counter all the axefx gas threads

 

[Digital Jams]

About the price of the unit, go try buying an Eventide Eclipse for less than a used Standard. Been there and done that and it aint going to happen unless you have a hook up.

Amp sims would be for free if you care to use them.

 

[saxxamafone]

It’s just a piece of gear, people will like it, people won’t..

Now why would you go and say something like that?

making sense in a thread like this,

how dare you!

Sorry my bad

 

[bravedude2]

axe fx? isn't that deodorant?

 

[UltraGary]

Sheesh...touchy touchy. I didn't mean that the AxeFX is "sh*t", I actually think it would be fun as hell to have. I also never said I'd never tried one.

I meant "sh*t" as in> 'Overly hyped gear that everyone fawns over and then soon becomes disenchanted with once they actually compare the true sound with the amp they thought they were replacing' (think Tom Scholz Rockman, Line6 Pod, etc.. All great pieces of gear in their own right....but at first had the earlybird tech heads claiming they'd replace those outdated heavy amps)



I hope this unruffles any damaged feathers.[/quote]

No feathers were damaged here, just seemed that what you wrote in the first place was really stupid, that's all.

I'm curious Gary, what's your toneful rig consist of?

Pete[/quote]

What I wrote in the first place was my opinion, which happened to be the same of the initial thread poster. Misquoting me and saying I said I'd never tried one but it sounded like sh*t was far more brilliant on your part.....so bravo to your adept forum abilities.

Regarding my rig....it's not nearly the size of your's. Your list of amps is quite impressive, and larger than all of the amps I've ever owned put together.....so I'd lose any sort of pissing match on "toneful rigs". My main amp, which I love, is a Trem-O-Verb combo going though a Mesa oversized 4x12. No big deal, no big list. Only a passion for music and gear....and some enjoyment for sharing opinions on sites like these with folks who don't take it so personally.

 

[Copperhead]

You can do a lot of that in Revalver - you should check it out Olaf. Cap, resistor values, tube bias, power supply, nfb, etc.

What would be really interesting is if Peavey decided to make a Pod like modeling box that uses the Revalver software with all those options.

Aren't they kinda getting there with the Vypyr?

http://www.peavey.com/products/vypyr/index.cfm

http://www.peavey.com/products/vypyr/extras/index.cfm

 

[stratotone]

Sheesh...touchy touchy. I didn't mean that the AxeFX is "sh*t", I actually think it would be fun as hell to have. I also never said I'd never tried one.

I meant "sh*t" as in> 'Overly hyped gear that everyone fawns over and then soon becomes disenchanted with once they actually compare the true sound with the amp they thought they were replacing' (think Tom Scholz Rockman, Line6 Pod, etc.. All great pieces of gear in their own right....but at first had the earlybird tech heads claiming they'd replace those outdated heavy amps)



I hope this unruffles any damaged feathers.

No feathers were damaged here, just seemed that what you wrote in the first place was really stupid, that's all.

I'm curious Gary, what's your toneful rig consist of?

Pete[/quote]

What I wrote in the first place was my opinion, which happened to be the same of the initial thread poster. Misquoting me and saying I said I'd never tried one but it sounded like sh*t was far more brilliant on your part.....so bravo to your adept forum abilities.

Regarding my rig....it's not nearly the size of your's. Your list of amps is quite impressive, and larger than all of the amps I've ever owned put together.....so I'd lose any sort of pissing match on "toneful rigs". My main amp, which I love, is a Trem-O-Verb combo going though a Mesa oversized 4x12. No big deal, no big list. Only a passion for music and gear....and some enjoyment for sharing opinions on sites like these with folks who don't take it so personally.[/quote]

Was just wondering what your tonal part of the world was from, that's all. Size of rig or number of amps doesn't mean shit. Only reason why I listed the tube amps I have is because I still have them and the axe... and the inference from your post was that people who bought em were burning off all their tube amps, or we were all lemmings who were trend-gripped by the latest 'gotta have it' thing.

For the record, I totally resisted JVM fever (the ones I tried out at GC did nothing for me), generally dislike Les Pauls, hate Engl amps with a passion and have gigged with freakin' Peavey amps. I just don't have a closed mind when it comes to gear, but that doesn't mean I have to have whatever the flavor of the month is either. I will admit to a curiousity about the axe for some time before I took the plunge, and it's lived up to the hype *for me*.

My adept forum abilities as you so succinctly put it consisted of the ability to cut and paste where you said "buy this sh*t" in reference to the axe and other 'one hit wonders' of gear past. I can appreciate your backing away from it, but there was only one way to read that comment as originally posted. I can ask if you're still beating your wife and then say how I didn't really mean it the way I said it, but the words are still out there. Words mean things.

If you've checked one out and you do think it's shit, great! Rock on and all that... your post just seemed like you hadn't messed with one, and the sh*t comment just put a nice cherry on the top. No worries here whether you like it or not, just honest curiousity - having played one, what did you not like about it? I'm not going to attack your position, I'm just really wondering. Discuss!

Pete

 

[stratotone]

No one feels threatened. I think this topic is going because Axe-FX is one of those pieces of gear that make sooo many guitarists blab on these forums like Hanah Montana fans.

And this is different than any other lemming run off the cliff how?
Whether it's a 5150, Powerball, Sig-X, JVM. Axe Fx...all the same. Folks run out to buy it because they somehow get convinced it's the end all be all of gear that will fix thei playing, it doesn't and the cycle starts over. That said, the usual cycle is a couple of weeks so FWIW I'm pretty stunned of how ong the interest on the Axe has held.

Exactly. The new "go-to, got-to-have" amp, will not fix your playing. Most people think if they go out and buy the exact same set up they seen in concert or heard on a record, they will get the same sound/tone. I forget where I read it or who it was, but a guitar player (may have been SRV) said (paraphrasing) "you can come, plug into my rig, and use my guitar and you will not get my sound or even come close to sounding like me." Then he said "I can take a Sears guitar/amp and sound just like my records or live sound."

Your tone/sound comes from you (fingers, pick attack, technique, etc.). The gear just highlites/amplifies all that.

For the record: I have played a Powerball for about 3 years now and could not be happier (have a few other amps, but like the PB more.) I have played a variety of music (metal, classic rock, country, blues) and it all sounds good thru it. Two frequently over looked items: Proper amp EQ (different channels) and the volume knob on the guitar.

See, I personally hate Powerballs. Different strokes for different folks. For me, the axe is the ultimate gigging tool. Quieter, easier to set up/tear down, easier for the soundman, flexible enough that I can use it with or without my tube amps, etc. It's not just a pod on steroids. Last rig I was using before the axe:

guitar > sennheiser wireless > reciever mounted on huge pedaltrain pro board - signal went into a Ernie Ball passive volume pedal, one out to Planet Waves tuner or peterson strobo stomp, bad horsie II wah, Digitech Whammy IV, custom built tri-boost, a few different modded boost pedals, phase 90, CF7 Digitech Flanger/Chorus factory, back to input of Bogner Ecstasy 101B. Fx loop on bogner went to either a TC Gmajor or a Boss DD20 delay pedal, Boss CE20 chorus, Little Alligator active volume pedal, back to fx return. 4x12 Marshall cab or 2x12 Randall MTS cab depending on size of venue. Tons of cables, lots of wiring runs under the board to power all the pedals. Total pain in the ass sometimes if a cable go knocked loose in transit or a cable went bad.

Now with the axe - it's guitar > wireless > reciever mounted in rack, goes to axe fx input. one output from the axe goes to a QSC hrp powered monitor. Second set of outputs goes to the board. I can vary my volume onstage to the monitor and not change what I send to the board - sound guys love it and the guys in the band do too, as my adjusting volume doesn't screw up their monitor mixes. I have a midi cable that also supplies power going to a Ground Control Pro, and two controller pedals for wah and volume. Will probably add one more controller pedal to do whammy stuff on. I can do anything my old rig could, and it's quieter and more flexible to boot. For me it wasn't so much wanting an amp to make me a better player - I play the same for better or for worse on most gear. It wasn't to sound like Bob or Ed or get a Van Halen tone or whatever. It was to have a better more controllable sound onstage and quicker/easier setup. If I gig with this thing for a year and the price drops to half what I paid, I got much more than my money's worth. Heck, how much did you guys who bought brand new JVM's lose when you sold it for $1400ish?

Pete

 

[bunghole]

I have no gas for the axe-fx

or anything with the following names on them:

bogner
diezel
cameron
fuchs
mojave
egnater
bad cat
wizard
engl
brunetti
meteoro
dumble
trainwreck
matchless
dr z
zinky
laboga
mesa
*insert 1000$ + amp of choice here*


i'm sure they all sound great in their own way, but I'm way too cheap to spend that kinda money on an amp/guitar/effects/etc

the only one of the over 1K set that I could actually see myself wanting to buy is a Splawn.

 

[bunghole]

also, pics of the amp with the street sign chassis?

 

[bill]

Can the Axe FX model my ancient 1959 Guild with worn out capicators and drifting resistors and that beautiful hiss that is an intregal part of my tone? I don't think so!!!!!!

 

[SkyhighRocks]

Can the Axe FX model my ancient 1959 Guild with worn out capicators and drifting resistors and that beautiful hiss that is an intregal part of my tone? I don't think so!!!!!!

actually it probably can

 

[Mr. Brady]

I have no gas for an Axe Fx. But I wish the one I just bought would get here.

Spam thread to follow in a couple of weeks. You'll be able to buy a tremoverb or an Ax-Fx.