"Too Much Evidence" Of Genocide

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Floyd Eye said:
It’s not though. It’s exactly the same as hanging a noose on a black guy’s door. It’s like calling someone a fag and then claiming you thought he was a cigarette or a piece of kindling. Quit being ridiculous.
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I don't think it's the same. The language is ambiguous and arguably started with the Zionists themselves. Ask the protestors what they mean before you draw conclusions. And regardless, one side is crying about a potentially genocidal slogan while the other side is actually doing it:

 
acceptance said:
I don't think it's the same. The language is ambiguous and arguably started with the Zionists themselves. Ask the protestors what they mean before you draw conclusions. And regardless, one side is crying about a potentially genocidal slogan while the other side is actually doing it:

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You mean the same protesters who are also carrying signs that say gas the Jews ? Because regardless if every person in that crowd agrees with gassing Jews, the mother fuckers were standing right along side the ones with the signs. If they make no distinctions among themselves why should I ?
 
Floyd Eye said:
You mean the same protesters who are also carrying signs that say gas the Jews ? Because regardless if every person in that crowd agrees with gassing Jews, the mother fuckers were standing right along side the ones with the signs. If they make no distinctions among themselves why should I ?
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Hadn't seen those signs. Honestly I don't even believe it. Same with conspicuously placed Nazi signs at Trump rallies.
 
@acceptance there's a seemingly-unlimited number of examples of words and phrases' meanings being different from what they were originally.

Funny, I thought of one yesterday when I said in another thread, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Got me thinking:
Being stoned these days is a whole-lot different from being stoned thousands of years ago.

In any case, whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts. :dunno:
 
Floyd Eye said:
Of course you don't. You don't believe the earth is a sphere either. This is why I don't waste time arguing with you about Israel. It's also why despite what the monkey said, the evidence is insurmountable that you don't like Jews.

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I listened to it and came to the same conclusion as did the New South Whales police. But honestly I could care less even if that's what they were chanting. Your sign appears to be at a pro Israel rally.
 
Monkey Man said:
In any case, whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts
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I'm not sure I agree. People can sincerely mean different things with the same phrase. But anyways, my question to Floyd was what the phrase actually meant. I don't believe it means what he thinks it does in current usage.
 
acceptance said:
I'm not sure I agree.
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Dude, how can you not agree? :LOL:

Imagine a world where the default position is to not know what thousands of phrases and words mean 'cause hey, they meant something different in the past? The entire language has evolved a shit-tonne since "old English" right through to this day. Gay sure ain't happy anymore, a fag sure ain't a cigarette, cool sure ain't cold... it's practically-endless.

Not sure the word, "chaotic" would begin to describe the results.

So yeah, I stand by my statement that, "In any case, whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts."
 
Monkey Man said:
Dude, how can you not agree? :LOL:

Imagine a world where the default position is to not know what thousands of phrases and words mean 'cause hey, they meant something different in the past? The entire language has evolved a shit-tonne since "old English" right through to this day. Gay sure ain't happy anymore, a fag sure ain't a cigarette, cool sure ain't cold... it's practically-endless.

Not sure the word, "chaotic" would begin to describe the results.

So yeah, I stand by my statement that, "In any case, whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts."
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I don't agree because I think there is confusion and debate about what the phrase means presently. I don't think the majority of kids chanting it believe it means to exterminate or expel the Israeli Jews "From the river to the sea." So assuming they don't mean what you or Floyd might think it means, no one should condemn them for saying it IMO. The words simply describe a geographic location — from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
 
Er... no mate.

I was taking about your response to my comment, which you specifically quoted.

My statement:
In any case, whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts

Your response after quoting the above:

acceptance said:
I'm not sure I agree. People can sincerely mean different things with the same phrase.
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So no confusion on my end.

To be crystal-clear, I wasn't at any time talking about a specific situation, just the general principle of how to interpret meaning when people speak.
 
acceptance said:
I don't agree because I think there is confusion and debate about what the phrase means presently. I don't think the majority of kids chanting it believe it means to exterminate or expel the Israeli Jews "From the river to the sea." So assuming they don't mean what you or Floyd might think it means, no one should condemn them for saying it IMO. The words simply describe a geographic location — from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
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Dude that is complete apologist bullshit.
 
Monkey Man said:
Er... no mate.

I was taking about your response to my comment, which you specifically quoted.

My statement:
In any case, whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts

Your response after quoting the above:


So no confusion on my end.

To be crystal-clear, I wasn't at any time talking about a specific situation, just the general principle of how to interpret meaning when people speak.
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I wasn't suggesting you were confused. I just don't agree that "whatever the currently-accepted meaning of a term is is what counts," and I used the example of the phrase in dispute to illustrate why. I don't think that there is a "currently-accepted" meaning of the phrase, and even if there was, it is always possible that someone comes along who has no idea what it means but says it anyways thinking it means something else. To your point, I think we all exist in some degree of "chaos" (Your term) with respect to words, phrases and meanings. That is why we ultimately have courts and so on to adjudicate law, as words and phrasing can be understood various ways.
Floyd Eye said:
Dude that is complete apologist bullshit.
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Well, not in my view anyways. ?‍♂️
 
I hear you man.

Litigation's reserved for "exceptional" circumstances 'though, in the true sense of the word. Exceptions in a world where hundreds, if not thousands of current-meaning assumptions are made by individuals every day.
 
Monkey Man said:
I hear you man.

Litigation's reserved for "exceptional" circumstances 'though, in the true sense of the word. Exceptions in a world where hundreds, if not thousands of current-meaning assumptions are made by individuals every day.
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And I hear you as well... Not saying that everyone just goes around making up their own meanings for words and phrases. Really most of the time everyone understands each other, thank god.
 
Looks like they are finishing off the list from 2001......If someone doesn't see the parallels.....well........:dunno:
Interview form 2007, if you are interested look up how many dual citizens of a certain country were in The Project for a New American Century think tank General Wesley Clark speaks about in the bottom video.

 
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