Van Halen F.U.C.K. album

[petejt]

With all this tri-stereo and pitch-shifting talk, did any New Wave or non-LA-studio musicians ever use such devices?

 

[mentoneman]

With all this tri-stereo and pitch-shifting talk, did any New Wave or non-LA-studio musicians ever use such devices?

gear like this is discussed just like a plexi Marshall or TC 2290 or echoplex

you can talk about it till you are blue in the face and peg it as "dated" but heck nothing more dated in the electric guitar realm than a fender strat and look how that stood the test of time because it sounds good. Ultimately you have to decide if the sound is attractive enough to pursue it, and then whether or not you are willing to settle for an emulation, or go full in for the real deal.

I love the tri sound, but not enough to spend 2k for an old rack chorus box, so I settle for emulations of it. I had a great tri type sound running a boss ce-2 into a boss ce-1, and currently run an arion sch-1 into my g-force landau patch for a pseudo tri chorus type effect.

some pretty bright contemporary guys like john suhr and fulltone have tried to build tri stereo boxes as well as companies like fractal and eventide and line 6 have tri stero models in their latest greatest gear for a reason

 

[Bronco]

... Landau had some "better than EVH" tones on Tales From The Bulge.

Man, just picked up this album based on what I read in this thread...good lord that is some killer tone! (playing ain't bad either )...thanks for the tip; wow.

 

[petejt]

Speaking of Def Leppard, here's this:

 

[sahlomonic]

I always thought the guitar tone on this album was a little bit shrill, I prefer Eddie's older tones from the 1970s.
Still, I do like it and how he uses the Eventide.

You can cop it fairly easily with a Boss PS-5.

It's not that far off from the original.

Sorry, I don't think it sounds very close at all.

No close at all? Sounds very close to me.

I stand by my statement. I don't want to start a fingers vs. gear war, but I really do think that those are about as different tones as one can achieve while playing the same riff. The top one sounds like it doesn't have very much at all below say 150Hz or so, and the album version is full of that ~80Hz fundamental "punch in the stomach" low end. The midrange voicing is all wrong as well. I'd say that the top clip could pass for VH1, but not the stuff it's being compared to.

Sorry your ears are broke, bud. I think it sounds fairly close, given the effects used vs the album. It's not the frequencies and amp settings we're listening to, it's the effects layered in.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

3+ years for a smack talk reply?

 

[timeroo]

What did Eddie Van Halen have for breakfast on Jan.19/87?

 

[geetarmikey]

I thought Gilbert's tone on the first Mr. Big record was pretty sweet. It was raw, but still had a cool spread sound to it. But, I do understand what you're saying. It's NOT that focused, in your face, AC/DC sound.

In the early 90's i used an ADA MP1, 2 ADA 2x12 cabinets, a Mosvalve poweramp and an Alesis processor and i ran a stereo chorus. Everyone in my band back then always told me they could NEVER hear me no matter how loud i turned up. I got a Marshall halfstack, only ran a Tubescreamer and a wah pedal! All of a sudden, there i was. Best thing i ever did was trash that bullshit rack.

I get what you mean about the first Mr. Big album, just imagine a riff like Take a Walk with a more direct guitar sound like he used live - killer!

Those chorused, stereo sound might sound impressive in just a room as they're designed to replicate a studio/big live room environment, but they suck live as it gets lost in the mix - straight up as possible is the best way to go, as you found out!

 

[Bluplirst]

3+ years for a smack talk reply?

Dude, get ready for a great comeback in 2017!

 

[Mailman1971]

What did Eddie Van Halen have for breakfast on Jan.19/87?

A Cigarette....cup of coffee and a large bowl of Fruity pebbles.

 

[petejt]

I've been listening to Hot for Teacher a lot lately. I keep hearing a chorusing effect- not too much but it has that w i i i de sound about it.

Is that just the MXR flanger run on one side of the signal, with a dry signal on the other side?

Or studio post-processing trickery?

Or did the Eventide 949 creep in as early as 1983?...

 

[AndyK]

I've been listening to Hot for Teacher a lot lately. I keep hearing a chorusing effect- not too much but it has that w i i i de sound about it.

Is that just the MXR flanger run on one side of the signal, with a dry signal on the other side?

Or studio post-processing trickery?

Or did the Eventide 949 creep in as early as 1983?...

You can definitely hear a chorus (or something) on the clean parts of that tune - the solo too.

 

[Luca79]

What cabinet/speakers EVH used with the SLO?

 

[Anonymous]

I've been listening to Hot for Teacher a lot lately. I keep hearing a chorusing effect- not too much but it has that w i i i de sound about it.

Is that just the MXR flanger run on one side of the signal, with a dry signal on the other side?

Or studio post-processing trickery?

Or did the Eventide 949 creep in as early as 1983?...

There's Eventide on almost every guitar part on 1984…

For the record, he was using the Eventides as early as VHII - The Eventide 910 is used on the chimey tapping to the intro of "Women In Love"

Steve

 

[tommytom11]

What did Eddie Van Halen have for breakfast on Jan.19/87?

A Cigarette....cup of coffee and a large bowl of Fruity pebbles.

and a heineken

 

[thiswaythatway]

3 years later and I still think his tone on the F.U.C.K album blows.

 

[rupe]

3+ years for a smack talk reply?

Dude, get ready for a great comeback in 2017!

Kinda sad looking back through this thread and seeing a couple of cool dudes (and EVH tone chasers) who are no longer with us.

 

[Mr. Willy]

3 years later and I still think his tone on the F.U.C.K album blows.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Even Bigger D]

On at least "The Dream is Over" EVH used a prototype CAE (Suhr) 3+ Preamp into the poweramp of either his Marshall or SLO.

Interesting - I always thought that the 3+ into a SM100R or SLO was the magic high gain setup, but I had no idea it was Eddie approved

 

[Racerxrated]

3 years later and I still think his tone on the F.U.C.K album blows.

Care to elaborate?

I'd like to hear why also..I guess to each their own but I loved that tone..and every other VH tone until 5150 and OU812. Those weren't my favorites. F.U.C.K. was a tone comeback IMO...